Importing a 2nd-hand CPO (Certified Pre-Owned) Tesla from the UK

Lumen

unkel wrote: »

I'm not denying Tesla is throttling fast chargers, just questioning if that has a material impact on any Tesla bought second hand in the UK or Ireland.

Maybe a good rule of thumb is to not buy a Tesla Model S with more than 500k km on the clock unless you get it for peanuts and you don't mind charging at "just" 95kW

In fact I'm already looking forward to using this as a bargaining chip if it comes to me buying a Model S. And wait for the anti EV brigade, well the less slow ones who follow the news, to use this in their arguments

My concern wouldn't be 95kW, it would be getting speeds much lower than that.

The simplest empirical approach would be to meet the seller at their chosen fast charger at 10% SOC and see what it pulls. You only need to be there for a few minutes.

Or if buying from the UK, get them to send a smartphone video of that part of the charging session, and confirm it when you pick up.

jhegarty

Is that impacting all cars , or just the 75 pack ?

unkel

All Teslas

liamog

Mod Note: Moving discussion of rapid charging restrictions to https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058050245

ELM327

Lumen wrote: »

My concern wouldn't be 95kW, it would be getting speeds much lower than that.

The simplest empirical approach would be to meet the seller at their chosen fast charger at 10% SOC and see what it pulls. You only need to be there for a few minutes.

Or if buying from the UK, get them to send a smartphone video of that part of the charging session, and confirm it when you pick up.

The S nerfing is 95kW.
Bjorn's MX had 220k km (with kWh used closer to 400k of normal usage, he was pulling trailers) and the limit was still 95.
TBH 95 is better than most new cars today anyway

byszek

Hey

If anyone is interested in this, I confirmed with Tesla in Dublin that "4 years / 50,000 miles
Limited Warranty" that you get when buying used tesla from "tesla/en_GB/used" is honored in Ireland so any MCU unit problems you are covered.

Gumbo

byszek wrote: »

Hey

If anyone is interested in this, I confirmed with Tesla in Dublin that "4 years / 50,000 miles
Limited Warranty" that you get when buying used tesla from "tesla/en_GB/used" is honored in Ireland so any MCU unit problems you are covered.

We are aware of that already as many of us have bought from the UK over the years.

ELM327

Gumbo wrote: »

We are aware of that already as many of us have bought from the UK over the years.

In fact, until the 3 came, most Teslas here were bought from the UK I'd imagine, as we didnt even have a delivery/SC here until a couple of years ago

russelldlee

Hello

I'd like to import a used Tesla S from the UK. I have 38k EUR to spend. What model and mileage would you recommend? I have a dealer here in Ireland doing to the pick up, checks and transport.

Also, do you know if it's possible to get the 6/7th seats installed here in Ireland?

Thanks so much for the advice!

markpb

As far as I know, you can't install the extra two seats in a Model S, it's a build-time option.

Beware that the buying process with Tesla used cars can be slow. I gave up after almost a month. After December 31st, who knows what extra taxes you'll have to pay to import it into the EU. Move quickly if you're going to do it.

Gumbo

russelldlee wrote: »

Hello

I'd like to import a used Tesla S from the UK. I have 38k EUR to spend. What model and mileage would you recommend? I have a dealer here in Ireland doing to the pick up, checks and transport.

Also, do you know if it's possible to get the 6/7th seats installed here in Ireland?

Thanks so much for the advice!

You really should know what your looking for to be blunt.

For me, I’d spend more for the P model. I’d pay the same for a 14 P as I would for a 15 normal so it’s all got to do with priorities for your personally.

The rear row of seats can be installed afterwards. The problem is getting a set for sale over here. They pop up all the time in the US Facebook Groups but I’d say shipping be pricey.

I assume your “dealer” is simply sourcing one from the auction or trade in the UK? He needs to hurry up.

russelldlee

markpb wrote: »

As far as I know, you can't install the extra two seats in a Model S, it's a build-time option.

Beware that the buying process with Tesla used cars can be slow. I gave up after almost a month. After December 31st, who knows what extra taxes you'll have to pay to import it into the EU. Move quickly if you're going to do it.

Thanks so much. Not planning on going through Tesla, probably through a dealer. Can you recommend a model?

Gumbo

russelldlee wrote: »

Thanks so much. Not planning on going through Tesla, probably through a dealer. Can you recommend a model?

P85D.

But your budget won’t allow that.
Your budget might put you into an S85/S70D/85D based on AT prices currently.

What are you looking for?

russelldlee

Gumbo wrote: »

P85D.

But your budget won’t allow that.
Your budget might put you into an S85/S70D/85D based on AT prices currently.

What are you looking for?

Looking for good condition, reliable model with decent range. Is mileage more important than age?

If you had my budget which model would you go for?

russelldlee

russelldlee wrote: »

Looking for good condition, reliable model with decent range. Is mileage more important than age?

If you had my budget which model would you go for?

If you had my budget, which model, year and mileage would go for?

jhegarty

I understand there is a reinforcing bar in back that is only installed on the 7 seater.

I don't think Tesla will retrofit it.

russelldlee

Gumbo wrote: »

You really should know what your looking for to be blunt.

For me, I’d spend more for the P model. I’d pay the same for a 14 P as I would for a 15 normal so it’s all got to do with priorities for your personally.

The rear row of seats can be installed afterwards. The problem is getting a set for sale over here. They pop up all the time in the US Facebook Groups but I’d say shipping be pricey.

I assume your “dealer” is simply sourcing one from the auction or trade in the UK? He needs to hurry up.

Thanks. I'm not too fussed about performance. More condition, guarantee availability, and range.

What you recommend at my budget? Model, year and mileage

Gumbo

russelldlee wrote: »

If you had my budget, which model, year and mileage would go for?

85D

Dual motor.
Good performance.
Buy the best condition one you can. Get searching on AT.

Range. What do you expect from a range point of view? Or what do you need?
Bearing in mind these cars are decent battery size (85 kWh) but older than the newer, smaller more efficient batteries. For example, a 64 kWh Kona will have more range than an 85 kWh model s. The Kona is an every day family box. The model s is a “luxury” car with 400bhp so it’s not as efficient as the average EV.

Think of it this way, if you went into a VW dealer tomorrow, would your eye be drawn to a 2.0tdi Golf, a Golf GTi or a Golf R?

russelldlee

Gumbo wrote: »

85D

Dual motor.
Good performance.
Buy the best condition one you can. Get searching on AT.

Range. What do you expect from a range point of view? Or what do you need?
Bearing in mind these cars are decent battery size (85 kWh) but older than the newer, smaller more efficient batteries. For example, a 64 kWh Kona will have more range than an 85 kWh model s. The Kona is an every day family box. The model s is a “luxury” car with 400bhp so it’s not as efficient as the average EV.

Think of it this way, if you went into a VW dealer tomorrow, would your eye be drawn to a 2.0tdi Golf, a Golf GTi or a Golf R?

The kona boot size is tiny. So would never go for it.

Also, we have young kids so stopping to charge is not a big deal.

One of main reasons going for Tesla is large boot and BIK benefits. No other electrics gave comparable boot. So I guess reliability is also important. Worth going for a 70/75/85 from 2017 with as low mileage as possible to hold onto 4yr/50k guarantee?

markpb

If you’re relying on the extra seats, make sure you check the height and weight restrictions on them. They’re not normal seats.

IMPORTANT! Rear facing seats are child restraint systems and must only be used for children over 37 inches (94 cm) tall and weighing between 35 and 77 lbs (16.2 to 35.2 kg). Always ensure the top of the child’s head cannot contact the vehicle and that the child is seated comfortably with the seat belts positioned and latched correctly. Follow all instructions provided and do not use supplemental child restraint systems in these seats.

unkel

I'm also pretty sure that 7 seat is from factory only. And again, as markpb said, it's only really suitable for children up to about 10-11 years (and pushing it at that)

russelldlee

Gumbo wrote: »

85D

Dual motor.
Good performance.
Buy the best condition one you can. Get searching on AT.

Range. What do you expect from a range point of view? Or what do you need?
Bearing in mind these cars are decent battery size (85 kWh) but older than the newer, smaller more efficient batteries. For example, a 64 kWh Kona will have more range than an 85 kWh model s. The Kona is an every day family box. The model s is a “luxury” car with 400bhp so it’s not as efficient as the average EV.

Think of it this way, if you went into a VW dealer tomorrow, would your eye be drawn to a 2.0tdi Golf, a Golf GTi or a Golf R?

Would you go for something like this? Or would mileage put you off?

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202011126058925

unkel

russelldlee wrote: »

Would you go for something like this? Or would mileage put you off?

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202011126058925

Miles is not a problem and a 2015 car has unlimited mileage battery and drive train warranty until sometime in 2023 (July in this case)

That car is not particularly good value though and the warranty from a UK second hand car dealer is not much good over here. Would you not go for the Tesla CPO car? From personal experience, it has lots of benefits to have a car under warranty from Tesla. See my thread for some of this stuff. I currently drive a 192 Tesla Model X, long range, 7 seater, as a loaner for several weeks (for free) as my own Tesla is undergoing very expensive warranty work (also for free) in Sandyford

russelldlee

unkel wrote: »

Miles is not a problem and a 2015 car has unlimited mileage battery and drive train warranty until sometime in 2023 (July in this case)

That car is not particularly good value though and the warranty from a UK second hand car dealer is not much good over here. Would you not go for the Tesla CPO car? From personal experience, it has lots of benefits to have a car under warranty from Tesla. See my thread for some of this stuff. I currently drive a 192 Tesla Model X, long range, 7 seater, as a loaner for several weeks (for free) as my own Tesla is undergoing very expensive warranty work (also for free) in Sandyford

I would go for CPO But none seem to be in stock and running out of time before brexit.

Do you have a link to CPO Inventory

Gumbo

russelldlee wrote: »

The kona boot size is tiny. So would never go for it.

Also, we have young kids so stopping to charge is not a big deal.

One of main reasons going for Tesla is large boot and BIK benefits. No other electrics gave comparable boot. So I guess reliability is also important. Worth going for a 70/75/85 from 2017 with as low mileage as possible to hold onto 4yr/50k guarantee?

You won’t get a 2017 one for €38k

Gumbo

russelldlee wrote: »

Would you go for something like this? Or would mileage put you off?

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202011126058925

Miles wouldn’t put me off but I think there is better value and spec options on AT currently.

russelldlee

Gumbo wrote: »

Miles wouldn’t put me off but I think there is better value and spec options on AT currently.

Any tips on a good spec off AT?

Buzwaldo

russelldlee wrote: »

One of main reasons going for Tesla is large boot and BIK benefits. ?

My understanding of BIK situation is that there is no BIK on an ev supplied by employer as long as the original (new) price is under 50k euro ( or was it upped a little in last budget? As the new price for a model S is well north of that, I reckon there would be hefty BIK, but I’m not an accountant, (and there may be some trade off if the vehicle is part paid for by the employee and part employer - but I may have imagined that bitðŸ˜).

Gumbo

russelldlee wrote: »

Any tips on a good spec off AT?

I like the look of this.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202003208627168?advertising-location=at_cars&postcode=LL651DJ&model=MODEL%20S&sort=price-asc&page=3&make=TESLA&include-delivery-option=on&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New

Should come in just in budget.

russelldlee

Gumbo wrote: »

I like the look of this.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202003208627168?advertising-location=at_cars&postcode=LL651DJ&model=MODEL%20S&sort=price-asc&page=3&make=TESLA&include-delivery-option=on&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New

Should come in just in budget.

Brilliant! Thanks!

Electric cars used and new BIK exempt up to 50k. Huge incentive.