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Importing a 2nd-hand CPO (Certified Pre-Owned) Tesla from the UK

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  • Registered Users Posts: 395 ✭✭Petetheroadie


    😠 Ridiculous is right...


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,748 ✭✭✭Soarer


    unkel wrote: »
    Ridiculous system. We won't tell you how much it is until after you have bought it :rolleyes:

    Plus, "you must do your own research".

    Which will be immediately discredited once you show up with the car!


  • Registered Users Posts: 63,546 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    It does mention UK trade guides and advertisements. I wonder if you prove how much you paid for it (in the UK) while protesting your VRT case (you have to pay whatever they want first, before you can fight it later) would it hold?

    Like Teslas, Porsches have never been in the VRT calculator. The guy I bought my first Porsche from brought it in and was lucky that he had a reasonably low bill (still about 40% of what he paid for the car :rolleyes:), but I've heard of others who were badly stung :(


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,107 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    No matter what the VRT is, pay it and dispute, I've done it every time and got a cheque back (not on a cheaper EV obviously)


  • Registered Users Posts: 861 ✭✭✭tails_naf


    slave1 wrote: »
    Please let us know cost, VRT and most importantly some photos.
    Congrats on your Tesla dude

    Thanks man - I'm absolutely delighted. I haven't any pics taken yet - but it's a blue 161 90d model s - just one week shy of being a 162. No idea what the vrt will be but given there is 5k back I'd expect maybe 3k? Paid 50k gbp, so pretty good deal i think.

    One immediate advantage of CPO is Tesla themselves. When I picked it up i noticed one of the LED strips of the daylight running light was dim. They agreed and are getting a replacement part sent to Ireland and tesla here will sort it. So that's a major bonus.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 46 umbauk


    I'm glad so many found this post useful. 14 months on and still in love with the car and looking for every opportunity for a long drive! :)

    However, I'll soon be moving to the US so I've sadly had to put the car up for sale (Link). Ofcourse, the first thing I'll do when I get there is buy another! :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 635 ✭✭✭staples7


    Like many others I found this thread really informative. I need to pick up a family car in the new year (2 kids under 2 currently). And though I would love to have an EV I’ve never seriously considered one an option until I recently saw how reasonable they have become in the uk. (due to range and size) Starting at 33k for a 2014/2015 CPO currently. I have free charging at work so would almost completely eliminate my fuel costs. A few quick questions I do have

    The 4 year warranty Tesla uk are offering on some CPOs. Will Tesla ireland honour this? And if something like the center console or a door handle malfunctioned is the only option to take it to tesla Dublin? I have heard of roaming technicians but don’t know if that is true?

    I know the extra kids ‘jump seats’ were an option in the boot but can Tesla retro fit?
    There are a few at work but I really need to take a look at properly. The boot capacity being advised appears to be huge going by figures. Up to now I had only being looking at 2/3 year old a6 Avants & be tiguans. Would be spending 25-30k so my thinking is spend a bit more and have something that ticks every box and a lot of fun! The VRT is also really attractive. I’m guesstimating at 2k ish for the above mentioned CPO after the 5k discount.

    Most of these cars in Tesla site appear to be Located in UpperHeyford? Would they transfer to an easier location? Manchester maybe.

    Besides increased insurance costs are there any other hidden pitfalls. I don’t think I would purchase outside of a main dealer for warranty reasons. Any advice on what to look out for would be greatly appreciated!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,387 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    My 2016S90D was 2800€ vrt
    It was a CPO from heathrow but they transferred it to Manchester for me to collect (they wont ship to Dublin)

    Look out for: Type 2 cable included. V5 included. Check the fiddly stuff works before leaving. Make sure to get CCS upgrade done before collection. I got mine included for free, it normally costs 500€.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,374 ✭✭✭yannakis


    Care sharing a list of the fiddly stuff?

    Is there a difference between the CCS upgrade and using adaptors like this one?

    IoyWPoDm.png


  • Registered Users Posts: 635 ✭✭✭staples7


    Thanks for the above, would Tesla uk share pics of the actual cars if requested? Also will Tesla ireland look after the extra 2/4 year warranty?

    Wonder if we will see a further drop in prices in early 2020. Or is this unlikely.

    If anyone has a good contact in Tesla uk regards the cpos would be great full for a pm :)

    Space appears to be great in the model’s, how are people finding them with kids and all the bits that follow. Seen a few videos online where buggy’s will fit in the front bonnet space...


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,126 ✭✭✭markpb


    yannakis wrote: »
    Is there a difference between the CCS upgrade and using adaptors like this one?

    IoyWPoDm.png

    You have to get the CCS refit done and then you can use the adapter in the photo. It’s not one or the other.

    staples7 wrote: »
    Thanks for the above, would Tesla uk share pics of the actual cars if requested?

    About 3-4 days after you put down the deposit, you’ll be sent a link to about 30-40 photos of the car highlighting any scuffs or cosmetic damage along with two 360 degree views showing the outside and inside of the car. In my case, it wasn’t always obvious from the photos where the damage was and they weren’t visible from the videos but the salesman was able to provide more information on request.

    You are more or less buying the car on the strength of those photos and videos. I think you can still reject the car on the day of delivery and get a refund, you’ll just have wasted your own time and money getting there. In my experience, getting that refund takes about a month of constant chasing.
    If anyone has a good contact in Tesla uk regards the cpos would be great full for a pm :)

    From my (aborted) experience, one guy (Pieter Rust) singlehandedly looks after all of Tesla UK used car sales and he’s not based in the UK. If he’s out of the office, expect radio silence. There is no one else you can deal with until you’ve committed to buying the car and they hand you over to the delivery team.

    Edit: the thread title should be renamed. Tesla don’t sell CPO cars any more, they sell used cars. The practical difference is that the cars aren’t as refurbished as they used to be. They are mechanically checked as much as possible, they are cleaned and any cosmetic damage is disclosed to you. If they’re out of warranty, you are given a new warranty. If you don’t buy the car from Tesla, you can buy this warranty separately from Allianz under very specific circumstances (private sale and warranty bought before the OEM warranty expires).


  • Registered Users Posts: 635 ✭✭✭staples7


    Did you end up purchasing another or did that put you off completely?

    Seems as this guy had a similar experience to yours

    https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=247&t=1822714

    Any idea of the warranty situation with Tesla ireland?

    markpb wrote: »
    You have to get the CCS refit done and then you can use the adapter in the photo. It’s not one or the other.




    About 3-4 days after you put down the deposit, you’ll be sent a link to about 30-40 photos of the car highlighting any scuffs or cosmetic damage along with two 360 degree views showing the outside and inside of the car. In my case, it wasn’t always obvious from the photos where the damage was and they weren’t visible from the videos but the salesman was able to provide more information on request.

    You are more or less buying the car on the strength of those photos and videos. I think you can still reject the car on the day of delivery and get a refund, you’ll just have wasted your own time and money getting there. In my experience, getting that refund takes about a month of constant chasing.



    From my (aborted) experience, one guy (Pieter Rust) singlehandedly looks after all of Tesla UK used car sales and he’s not based in the UK. If he’s out of the office, expect radio silence. There is no one else you can deal with until you’ve committed to buying the car and they hand you over to the delivery team.

    Edit: the thread title should be renamed. Tesla don’t sell CPO cars any more, they sell used cars. The practical difference is that the cars aren’t as refurbished as they used to be. They are mechanically checked as much as possible, they are cleaned and any cosmetic damage is disclosed to you. If they’re out of warranty, you are given a new warranty. If you don’t buy the car from Tesla, you can buy this warranty separately from Allianz under very specific circumstances (private sale and warranty bought before the OEM warranty expires).


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,126 ✭✭✭markpb


    staples7 wrote: »
    Did you end up purchasing another or did that put you off completely?

    I did but not from Tesla, I bought from a dealer in the UK. Everyone’s interaction with Tesla seems to be hit or miss. A surprising number of people have poor experiences but the cars are unique enough that their behaviour goes unchallenged.

    The car I bought still has some of its OEM warranty left so I’m not relying on the extended warranty (nor will I be able to buy it). Tesla Ireland have already done one small fix for me under warranty so it seems to transfer.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,387 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    yannakis wrote: »
    Care sharing a list of the fiddly stuff?

    Is there a difference between the CCS upgrade and using adaptors like this one?

    IoyWPoDm.png
    That is the CCS upgrade, you need the adapter and a hardware and firmware update to be able to use CCS - Costs €500


    The fiddly stuff, is the little things like I said above, make sure all docs and cables are in order, but also other stuff like the usb ports, window switches, sunroof motor, all that. As you would with any expensive used car purchase


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,025 ✭✭✭Sabre Man


    staples7 wrote: »
    And if something like the center console or a door handle malfunctioned is the only option to take it to tesla Dublin? I have heard of roaming technicians but don’t know if that is true?

    I know the extra kids ‘jump seats’ were an option in the boot but can Tesla retro fit?

    There is a ranger who works all over the country if the work can be done remotely. Some things need to be done at the service centre.

    As far as I know the jump seats can't be retro fitted. I believe they require extra strengtening of the rear of the car during production.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,795 ✭✭✭samih


    Sabre Man wrote: »
    There is a ranger who works all over the country if the work can be done remotely. Some things need to be done at the service centre.

    As far as I know the jump seats can't be retro fitted. I believe they require extra strengtening of the rear of the car during production.

    The strengthening = extra protection for the passengers if the car is rear ended.


  • Registered Users Posts: 635 ✭✭✭staples7


    Sabre Man wrote: »
    There is a ranger who works all over the country if the work can be done remotely. Some things need to be done at the service centre.

    As far as I know the jump seats can't be retro fitted. I believe they require extra strengtening of the rear of the car during production.


    Thanks for the reply, good to know!

    Been watching the Tesla UK used site closely. Friday all cars disappeared bar one 2017 model. There was 10/15 cars advertised before that. Strange


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,387 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    staples7 wrote: »
    Thanks for the reply, good to know!

    Been watching the Tesla UK used site closely. Friday all cars disappeared bar one 2017 model. There was 10/15 cars advertised before that. Strange
    Probably all sold
    Usually they don't last more than a few days


  • Registered Users Posts: 635 ✭✭✭staples7


    ELM327 wrote: »
    Probably all sold
    Usually they don't last more than a few days


    Ya could well be, usually cars go on and off daily but for all used cars to be taken down in one go is what im wondering about.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,108 ✭✭✭BigAl81


    Yeah, very strange. There's no Model S's there at all the last few days from Tesla directly.

    The very cheapest ones elsewhere are starting to come in under £29,999 now. I'm watching like a hawk till end of February when they change their reg plates in the UK and might pull the trigger then if there's a bit more depreciation happening at that stage!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 20,387 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    BigAl81 wrote: »
    Yeah, very strange. There's no Model S's there at all the last few days from Tesla directly.

    The very cheapest ones elsewhere are starting to come in under £29,999 now. I'm watching like a hawk till end of February when they change their reg plates in the UK and might pull the trigger then if there's a bit more depreciation happening at that stage!
    You'd pick up an S85 with AP1 for around £30k privately now I would imagine. The earlier non AP cars will be even less.


  • Registered Users Posts: 63,546 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    BigAl81 wrote: »
    I'm watching like a hawk till end of February when they change their reg plates in the UK and might pull the trigger then if there's a bit more depreciation happening at that stage!

    Not happening if brexit goes ahead Jan 31st! :eek:

    But yeah, you and me both, watching with great interest to see the prices of second hand Model S after the UK reg change in March when many an owner is going to "trade up" to a new Model 3

    I'd be very tempted if a high miler out of warranty AP1 would come along for under the GBP25k mark. None or very little VRT on that either.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,387 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    There will be a transitory period


  • Registered Users Posts: 63,546 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    ELM327 wrote: »
    There will be a transitory period

    That is far from certain. A no deal brexit by definition means no transition period at all.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,387 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    unkel wrote: »
    That is far from certain. A no deal brexit by definition means no transition period at all.


    So you think on the first of february there will be WTO trade tariffs?
    Nonsense.
    The next cliff is the end of 2020.


  • Registered Users Posts: 63,546 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    ELM327 wrote: »
    So you think on the first of february there will be WTO trade tariffs?
    Nonsense.

    Personally I hope and expect there will not be a no-deal brexit after Jan 31st. But if there is, then yes, WTO tariffs will be there immediately. Not nonsense. That's the definition of being out of the EU.

    Here's a decent brief description of what a no-deal brexit means from the BBC:

    Linky
    Under a no-deal Brexit, there would be no time to bring in a UK-EU trade deal.Trade would initially have to be on terms set by the World Trade Organization

    Border checks, import duties, VAT, the lot. Immediately.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,387 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    unkel wrote: »
    Personally I hope and expect there will not be a no-deal brexit after Jan 31st. But if there is, then yes, WTO tariffs will be there immediately. Not nonsense. That's the definition of being out of the EU.

    Here's a decent brief description of what a no-deal brexit means from the BBC:

    Linky



    Border checks, import duties, VAT, the lot. Immediately.


    But it's not going to be "no deal" until the end of the defined negotiation period (ie 31/12/20).


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,281 ✭✭✭AmberGold


    Two nice secondhand S’s have just come up for sale on the Tesla Owners UK Facebook page. An 18 100D in silver and a 17 75D in black.

    No price on the 18 and on the 75D £45k is mentioned on the thread.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,906 ✭✭✭✭KCross


    unkel wrote: »
    Personally I hope and expect there will not be a no-deal brexit after Jan 31st. But if there is, then yes, WTO tariffs will be there immediately. Not nonsense. That's the definition of being out of the EU.

    Here's a decent brief description of what a no-deal brexit means from the BBC:

    Linky



    Border checks, import duties, VAT, the lot. Immediately.

    I think you've misunderstood it. Jan 31st is just the official leaving with no going back. They then go into the transition period where nothing changes and then if they fail to have a deal signed at the end of that then thats "no deal brexit"... but during the transition its business as usual AFAIK.

    Boris has purposely drawn a line in the sand that the end of the transition period is the end of the year so as ELM says that the cliff edge for no-deal brexit (unless he fails to get brexit done by Jan 31st which is highly unlikely since he has a significant majority to play with).


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,108 ✭✭✭BigAl81


    Ah jasus,

    I forgot about possible Brexit implications, quit running my pipe dream with your facts ;)

    I find this site great, lists all Tesla's from all sources in the UK...

    https://tesla-info.com/UK/inventory.html

    The cheapest S85 with autopilot that is a 2014 for 33k sterling.

    Interestingly, as it was bought second hand from Tesla by its last owner, it has some CPO warranty left on it.

    An interesting way to get some warranty, but not pay full Tesla direct prices perhaps!


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