Can't find a marriage

Hermy

According to the 1911 Census Roger Kinahan and Mary Boyce have been married 15 years but I can find no trace of their marriage in the civil records at irishgenealogy.ie or Family Search. The records of their children's births tally with what's on the census so I would expect to find the marriage.

Just wondering if someone could check Roots on the off-chance it's listed there.

Waitsian

Rodger Kinihan married Mary Boyce on Nov 1, 1894 in the parish of Tubber and Rosemount, Westmeath. Catholics, no parents listed, Thomas and Catherine Barry are the witnesses. That's a parish record trancription off Roots Hermy.

Btw another Roger Keenehan (father, uncle, grandad?) married in the same parish in 1844.

Hermy

Apologies for my typo - it was Mary, not Margaret - as you've found thanks very much.

And just because I want the parents names (or at least the brides father) there are no such names given.
I'm 95% sure the bride is who I think she is but that she marries about 30 miles south of her home place.

I believe the 1844 marriage (to Catherine Rafferty) is the parents.

pinkypinky

Still can't see their civil record even with the date known. Maddening.

Hermy

Indeed! And if the bride is who I think she is that's the third member of that family I couldn't find a civil marriage record for.

pinkypinky

I presume you checked Boyle and Royce.

KildareFan

The only Roger Kinihan birth is
Roger Kinahan, b. 12th July 1865, Suntown?, Moate, Co Westmeath; parents Roger Kinahan and Catherine Rafferty [Athlone Group ID7372912] Jane Sweeney registered the birth. http://bit.ly/2B2Awsn

KildareFan

Mary was probably a minor when she married - a Mary Boyce was born 2nd Feb 1878 in Corry, Ballinacargy, Co Westmeath, daughter of John Boyce, farmer and Mary Leavy [Mullingar 1878 Group ID 8863705 http://bit.ly/2EGBYTx] - maybe that's why the marriage wasn't registered???

Hermy

My hope is that she is the Mary Boyce born in 1875 to William Boyce and Ellen Robinson but that means she's marrying in her husbands parish rather than in her own home place in Rathowen.

Mary born in 1878 died aged 5 months old.

Waitsian

pinkypinky wrote: »

I presume you checked Boyle and Royce.

Only a genealogist could read that with both a wry smile and a nod of the head.

Hermy

pinkypinky wrote: »

I presume you checked Boyle and Royce.

You know, I hadn't checked till just now but thought I better lest I miss something.:p

Hermy

This nut was easier to crack than I'd thought.

First two children born to them in the mothers home place in Rathowen so I think I have my proof.

pinkypinky

Great work!

Hermy

One last thing...

I can't find a birth record for their son James born after Kate (b. 1899) and before Ellen (b. 1901).
Would someone mind checking Roots in case there's a mention of it there?

pinkypinky

There's a baptism for him: 9/8/1899 from Coolalore.
Mother is down as Mary Boyer.
Godparents: Edward Geoghegan, Ellen Seery

Hermy

The Census has them in Coolatore so I'd say that's it except the civil record of his sister's birth is dated Oct 5th 1899.
EDIT: I misread it - the sister's born in 1897!:o

Cheers pinky.

Hermy

If I could trouble ye once last time on this family...

I can't find a civil birth record for Roger and Mary's daughter Bridget (b. ~1909) and am wondering if there's mention of her on Roots.

pinkypinky

Born Coolatore 12/2/1909 baptised 2 days later. Mother Maria Boyce this time. SS:Michael Smyth, Maria A McNeill

Hermy

That's terrific pinky - thanks very much.