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Kia Niro EV

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  • Registered Users Posts: 21,290 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    DrPhilG wrote: »
    Watching that this morning and the other video from him.
    (coincidentally)
    Very interesting reviews, showing real world usability and facts that other reviewers wouldnt show.
    I think if i were picking between the two I'd take the Niro. They look nicer and seem to have one or two interesting bits that the kona doesnt have.

    If the kona doesnt even have TACC here then it's a no brainer.


  • Registered Users Posts: 475 ✭✭icom


    Another review from Bjorn.

    Kia Niro EV space for tall people + back seat comfort
    https://youtu.be/G11Lp141rns


  • Registered Users Posts: 76 ✭✭Lossy


    daheff wrote: »
    i'm going to guess 45k before grants

    I just think they'll have this price as its bigger than the Kona.



    just reading a number of people on this thread are quoting the PHEV Niro @ 31k OTR. Where are you getting this price?

    Iv'e checked with 2 Kia dealers locally and quoted 40k+ off both before grants (7,5k)...so more like 32-33k OTR.

    Yeah, mine was 32,500 OTR.

    The PHEV gets 7.5k grants. (5k seai and 2.5k vrt)

    The EV gets 10k reductions as far as I know. (5k seai and 5k vrt)

    HEV just gets 1.5k vrt reduction.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Lossy wrote: »
    Yeah, mine was 32,500 OTR.

    The PHEV gets 7.5k grants. (5k seai and 2.5k vrt)

    The EV gets 10k reductions as far as I know. (5k seai and 5k vrt)

    HEV just gets 1.5k vrt reduction.


    Its a hell of a car for 32k


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,175 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    Unless I'm mistaken, the Niro doesn't seem to have automatic wipers.

    Bjorn says in his Q&A video that it does, but when he shows the stick it has OFF-INT-LO-HI.

    That's intermittent, not automatic.

    I hope I'm wrong, that would be kinda ludicrous in such a modern car.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,016 ✭✭✭✭tk123


    The HEV does so I doubt they'd take it away for the BEV?


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,059 ✭✭✭✭KCross


    DrPhilG wrote: »
    Unless I'm mistaken, the Niro doesn't seem to have automatic wipers.

    Bjorn says in his Q&A video that it does, but when he shows the stick it has OFF-INT-LO-HI.

    That's intermittent, not automatic.

    I hope I'm wrong, that would be kinda ludicrous in such a modern car.

    Arent all automatic wipers shown as INT?
    It is, after all, a form of intermittent in itself just that the car decides rather than a timer.

    For instance, your own car has it and you just have the off, automatic, speed 1 and speed 2 settings.... same thing really.

    Put another way, your leaf doesn't have an "automatic mode" and a "intermittent timer mode".


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,290 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    KCross wrote: »
    Arent all automatic wipers shown as INT?
    It is, after all, a form of intermittent in itself just that the car decides rather than a timer.

    For instance, your own car has it and you just have the off, automatic, speed 1 and speed 2 settings.... same thing really.

    Put another way, your leaf doesn't have an "automatic mode" and a "intermittent timer mode".
    My Ioniq does though.
    There's 0-AUTO-1-2-3-4-5 for wiper speed control.


  • Registered Users Posts: 76 ✭✭Lossy


    KCross wrote: »
    Arent all automatic wipers shown as INT?
    It is, after all, a form of intermittent in itself just that the car decides rather than a timer.

    For instance, your own car has it and you just have the off, automatic, speed 1 and speed 2 settings.... same thing really.

    Put another way, your leaf doesn't have an "automatic mode" and a "intermittent timer mode".

    The Niro Phev has auto wipers (rain sensor)
    I would be very very surprised if the EV didnt have auto wipers.

    Off/auto/int/1/2


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,059 ✭✭✭✭KCross


    ELM327 wrote: »
    My Ioniq does though.
    There's 0-AUTO-1-2-3-4-5 for wiper speed control.

    Maybe Im wrong so. I drove the Leaf this morning but cant remember now if it has separate auto and int settings... maybe it has.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,059 ✭✭✭✭KCross


    DrPhilG wrote: »
    Unless I'm mistaken, the Niro doesn't seem to have automatic wipers.

    Bjorn says in his Q&A video that it does, but when he shows the stick it has OFF-INT-LO-HI.

    That's intermittent, not automatic.

    I hope I'm wrong, that would be kinda ludicrous in such a modern car.

    Did he also say that he didn't have the top trim level of the Niro EV... so maybe that lower trim level in Korea doesn't have it but we are likely to get one top trim level here so it will... possibly?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,795 ✭✭✭samih


    KCross wrote: »
    Maybe Im wrong so. I drove the Leaf this morning but cant remember now if it has separate auto and int settings... maybe it has.

    Int=Auto on all the LEAFs and I suspect the same is true for Niro.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,175 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    KCross wrote: »
    For instance, your own car has it and you just have the off, automatic, speed 1 and speed 2 settings.... same thing really.

    Lol, never noticed that!
    maxresdefault.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,175 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    KCross wrote: »
    For instance, your own car has it and you just have the off, automatic, speed 1 and speed 2 settings.... same thing really.

    Update...

    You are incorrect I'm afraid. That image I posted before was from a Google search.

    This is my own car. It does have automatic on the stick.

    460843.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,059 ✭✭✭✭KCross


    DrPhilG wrote: »
    Update...

    You are incorrect I'm afraid. That image I posted before was from a Google search.

    This is my own car. It does have automatic on the stick.

    But isn't that OFF-AUTO-Speed 1, Speed 2.... so the same thing?
    i.e. where is intermittent on yours? Intermittent and Auto are the same thing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,648 ✭✭✭bp_me


    KCross wrote: »
    But isn't that OFF-AUTO-Speed 1, Speed 2.... so the same thing?
    i.e. where is intermittent on yours? Intermittent and Auto are the same thing.

    Same but different.

    Intermittent works on a timer. Auto generally works on a sensor in the windscreen and the adjustability is the sensitivity control. So you can leave it permanently on auto and when it rains they just start working (unless of course nissan did something weird and unintuitive).


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,818 ✭✭✭Silent Running


    But, auto will bring on more than just intermittent. It will start with intermittent, then progress, if the rain gets harder, on to full speed if necessary. It's that way on any car I've owned with auto wipers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    This gone a small bit off track?


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,175 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    KCross wrote: »
    Intermittent and Auto are the same thing.

    Not really.

    Intermittent will wipe every few seconds, longer or shorter gaps dependant on the setting.

    Automatic has a sensor and will decide itself how frequently it needs to wipe.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,059 ✭✭✭✭KCross


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    This gone a small bit off track?

    Not really.
    We are discussing whether, based on Bjorn's video, the Niro has auto sensing wipers or not.

    The video shows the stalk having "INT" and the discussion is if that means it only has traditional timer based wipers or could it still include auto rain sensing.

    Its not clear really. I think INT or Auto could be used interchangeably on the stalk. i.e I dont think "INT" necessarily means you dont have rain sensing.

    Edit: had a look at a Leaf XE and it doesn’t have rain sensing and instead of “auto” on the stalk it has “- -“ so that confirms it for Nissan at least that auto means rain sensing.

    I wonder if Bjorn's Niro is just a lower trim version and the one Kia import here will have it.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,175 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    Latest test was at high speed. Could only take a shorter run and then estimate due to speed restrictions in Korea but he reckons 200 miles at 75mph.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,818 ✭✭✭Silent Running


    DrPhilG wrote: »
    Latest test was at high speed. Could only take a shorter run and then estimate due to speed restrictions in Korea but he reckons 200 miles at 75mph.

    I hope his estimation is off. That's a huge drop in range! That's at ~120 kph.

    I guess the aerodynamics of a house-brick has something to do with it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,931 ✭✭✭ewj1978


    is it such an unexpected loss? he's increased his speed by 27kph. (usually runs his tests at 93kph)
    Basically lost 20% range while increasing speed by 30%.
    I'd be very happy getting 320km while doing 120kph.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,818 ✭✭✭Silent Running


    ewj1978 wrote: »
    is it such an unexpected loss? he's increased his speed by 27kph. (usually runs his tests at 93kph)
    Basically lost 20% range while increasing speed by 30%.
    I'd be very happy getting 320km while doing 120kph.

    Ah, my mistake. For some reason I read the distance in kms and the speed in mph. Doh! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Ah, my mistake. For some reason I read the distance in kms and the speed in mph. Doh! :D




    Dont worry I done the exact same....it was only after a few mins wondering why the drop off was so big I figured it out:P


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,175 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    Lol, keeping you on your toes.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,059 ✭✭✭✭KCross


    DrPhilG wrote: »
    Lol, keeping you on your toes.

    You're our resident west brit with your mph! :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 617 ✭✭✭bonoman66


    Bjorn might be proud of this guy in his recent Niro EV test..

    :eek:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNVOLUDJ1L4&feature=youtu.be&t=548


  • Registered Users Posts: 617 ✭✭✭bonoman66


    Came across this EV Range Estimator / Calculator in one of the Kia / Hyndai Forum Threads..

    Might interest some here if not already aware of it (Not sure about how accurate the calculations/maths are)..

    https://ecalc.ch/evcalc.php?ecalc&carmaker=kia&model=kia_niro_-_60kwh%C2%B2_(2018)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 475 ✭✭icom


    bonoman66 wrote: »
    Bjorn might be proud of this guy in his recent Niro EV test..

    :eek:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNVOLUDJ1L4&feature=youtu.be&t=548

    As Bjorn would say, he was 'hammering' it sheeeeet ! :)


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