N17 - Knock to Collooney [design & planning underway]

CatInABox

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117781281#Comment_117781281

Yes, the map has been updated, pretty sure it's hosted somewhere else.

bod68

Which colour routes are missing? I can't log on ?

friedcircuits

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117781348#Comment_117781348

I put Old and New pics up back a page. Got kicked off then its completely gone now no warnings even.

CatInABox

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117781348#Comment_117781348

Couldn't tell you, to be honest. I was mainly looking at the Curry area, and all the routes are bunched very close to there. They've gotten rid of the ones that were far to the west of Curry, the ones near the ball alley at the crossroads.

bod68

Thanks,looked at the old and new map and they seem to have dropped the outer ones on either side? , seems the ones left are very close to Tubbercurry, would that be correct?

CatInABox

They've also dropped the "do minimum" option

friedcircuits

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117781402#Comment_117781402

Tub.PNG

Tubbercurry options - I don't see the Black or Cyan being runners in my opinion - anyone have any input? Maybe light Black?

Pete_Cavan

Looks like the northern end is definitely going to be 3km online upgrade. The southern end looks like minimum c.3km online north of Knock before going offline if Light Green is chosen, more like 6km online if Dark Green is chosen. Options become more numerous from Kilkelly.

friedcircuits

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117781499#Comment_117781499

Sorry Pete can you explain this, thanks!

Pete_Cavan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117781541#Comment_117781541

The northern end looks to me to only have one option, Grey, therefore it will be an upgrade of the existing road.

The southern end also only has one option, Orange, with the Light Green route then branching off and the Dark Green branching off further north. This looks to mean minimum 3km upgarde of existing road then going offline with Light Green route, or 6km upgarde of existing road then going offline with Dark Green route.

I'm open to correction on this if I am reading it wrong.

friedcircuits

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117781562#Comment_117781562

Thanks. Just trying to understand it myself - as I look at it routes going through or very near towns (Tubbercurry, Curry and Charlestown) don't make sense with population and infrastructure etc so my thinking is this new road will essentially link but "bypass" these towns similar to the Tuam bypass dual carriageway thats my thought - any ideas from others?

yannakis

Here's a direct link to the revised route options. You can zoom pretty far in.

https://sligotransport.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=d7cc4e844330451bab50a19e8df2024a

Mullinabreena

Tubbercurry chamber of commerce are pushing for a route as close as possible to the town. I hope its not the route that runs through the Tubbercurry forest trail or the golf club. Social and sporting facilities are poor enough in South Sligo without removing existing ones. I feel sorry for Owenmore Geals who look like they will loose their pitch for the second time, they were beside the Teeling statue but had to move for the N4 dual carriageway. I assume Charlestown are doing the same as Tubbercurry chamber of commerce, for business reasons. I can't see the route that goes to the east of Tubbercurry-Muckelty hill been a option as it runs through bog.

Mullinabreena

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117781613#Comment_117781613

Yes that's my understanding too but with no roundabouts like on Tuam

friedcircuits

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117784800#Comment_117784800

That's the routes I don't see as very feasible - Black and Cyan. Black going very close to trail and multiple housing estates and houses and Cyan very near housing estates and golf course also. If they went with Grey they may push it further towards town, town is already "bypassed" - I only see cars going through town to try and beat trucks going behind town!

Pete_Cavan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117784903#Comment_117784903

Keep in mind that the corridors are not mutually exclusive. The final route doesn't have to be one corridorfrom end to end and will likely transition between sections of multiple corridors.

In any case, I think that there is zero chance going through a town would be quicker than a new build road bypassing the town.

Mullinabreena

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117784903#Comment_117784903

One of those routes also goes very close to Rhue cemetery too so very unlikely. If I was a betting man I'd say it will follow the dark green route near the secondary school for the Tubbercurry section. Then when it gets closer to Mullinabreena parish I think it will follow the green or orange route. Its good land there with sand and gravel deposits and low population density. Some of the other routes in the Mullinabreena section closer to the existing N17 are quite boggy and its easier to build on a green field site then all the traffic management problems if its the routes closer to the current N17.

Pete_Cavan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117784800#Comment_117784800

I doubt Owenmore Geals will loose their pitch. Grey is the only option there and it looks to be on the existing road. That is a relatively modern stretch of road and I doubt DC will be justified here so landtake doesn't seem necessary. That section might get nothing more than resurfacing.

CatInABox

New press release, announcing more in person meeting dates.

See here.

DumbBrunette

€1 million allocated to this project in the 2022 allocations from TII - this should be enough to keep the route selection process going.

CatInABox

DumbBrunette's post reminded me to check the website, and there's a new press release out. Site investigations have started along the routes. Further update on when the EPO will be announced in February.

https://n17knockcollooney.ie/emerging-preferred-options-press-release/

hangar18_

Will there be any updates today, as February was meant to be the next press release.

cartoncowboy

March 2022 Press Release/Update

Emerging Preferred Options: Press Release – March 2022 – N17 – Knock to Collooney (n17knockcollooney.ie)

Pete_Cavan

I was just about to post that link.

So they haven't got a Preferred Route yet but when they do, it has to be peer reviewed so no news until summer. Just great.

jnorahs

Hoping early this month the preferred route will be announced!!!! Such a long long wait!!!

"Peer Review process with Transport Infrastructure Ireland (TII); this process which is a requirement of the TII Project Management Guidelines is expected to conclude in May"

cartoncowboy

Looks like they are delayed with the preferred route announcement - now mid July.

Emerging Preferred Option: Press Release – June 2022 – N17 – Knock to Collooney (n17knockcollooney.ie)

jnorahs

Who bets September at this rate, August is hols no doubt!!!

DumbBrunette

Mayo county council has confirmed that the N17 project will be built in stages if it gets planning permission, rather than in one go.

https://www.advertiser.ie/mayo/article/130401/major-road-schemes-progressing-in-stages-across-mayo

cartoncowboy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119282012#Comment_119282012

OH God, I hope not. This would see it built piece meal, with it taking decades to complete. Whatever government is around can pull the plug on certain sections, chop and change it, stall it, defer it, no money available etc etc. Surely that approach would make it more expensive overall! The entire route is a joke of a road and dangerous, with 80Kph speed limit for the most part. Ho humm :-(

jnorahs

I'd well believe it as it has a 2045 completion!! Stages make sense, though torturous to us affected!!!