geopathic stress

scaredycat

Hi all,
We got our house dowsed for GS few months back by a local man who has been doing this work for over 10years. I researched him prior to doing this and he came and did the job in a few mins.
This particular gentlemen offers copper piping to build around your house if he thinks you need it.

On another note, we had spoken to a gentleman in England prior to the dowsing and apparently dowsing can be done abroad via house plans etc. (I have also researched this and it seemingly can be done). This English man sold us an item called a neutraliser, which is basically something you stick on your wall and it doesn't remove the lines but it stops them harming the body.
I wanted to buy a couple of them as my house is quite big but he assured me one was enough as they are quite powerful.
My mother also purchased one but he would only sell her a very small one as said she didn't need it.
This English gentleman has been practising dowsing over 20 years and from what I read, he is the one who introduced GS into England itself.

Anyhow, finally to my question.
I got completely different readings from both men. So much so that if I listened to both I would have to actually knock the house!!!! (Which obviously isn't ever going to happen)
The Irish man advised me that the neutraliser I bought was not strong enough for the level of GS in my home and naturally when I went back to contact England he disputed this.

Does anyone have any advice on this? Half of me wished I never got it done to begin with as its in my head now and ironically I'm completely stressed out over it.

Both men are highly recommended so its hard to know which one to believe.

Any advice greatly appreciated.
Thanks

seamus

scaredycat wrote: »

Does anyone have any advice on this? Half of me wished I never got it done to begin with as its in my head now and ironically I'm completely stressed out over it.

Completely ignore it. Both men are con artists. There's no such thing as "geopathic stress", it's made-up nonsense to sell snake oil.

You say it yourself - both men are highly recommended, highly "experienced" and yet got completely different readings.

If there was even the slightest basis behind this phenomenon, then you would expect both men to get results that are broadly similar. The fact that they're different shows you that they literally just made the "results" up.

Forget about it, write it off as a folly that you lost money on, and move on with your life.

scaredycat

scaredycat wrote: »

Hi all,
We got our house dowsed for GS few months back by a local man who has been doing this work for over 10years. I researched him prior to doing this and he came and did the job in a few mins.
This particular gentlemen offers copper piping to build around your house if he thinks you need it.

On another note, we had spoken to a gentleman in England prior to the dowsing and apparently dowsing can be done abroad via house plans etc. (I have also researched this and it seemingly can be done). This English man sold us an item called a neutraliser, which is basically something you stick on your wall and it doesn't remove the lines but it stops them harming the body.
I wanted to buy a couple of them as my house is quite big but he assured me one was enough as they are quite powerful.
My mother also purchased one but he would only sell her a very small one as said she didn't need it.
This English gentleman has been practising dowsing over 20 years and from what I read, he is the one who introduced GS into England itself.

Anyhow, finally to my question.
I got completely different readings from both men. So much so that if I listened to both I would have to actually knock the house!!!! (Which obviously isn't ever going to happen)
The Irish man advised me that the neutraliser I bought was not strong enough for the level of GS in my home and naturally when I went back to contact England he disputed this.

Does anyone have any advice on this? Half of me wished I never got it done to begin with as its in my head now and ironically I'm completely stressed out over it.

Both men are highly recommended so its hard to know which one to believe.

Any advice greatly appreciated.
Thanks

There is no science behind anything above.

The only consistent outcome between both is that they are trying to sell you something that you don't need and that does nothing.

scaredycat

Hi, thanks for reply.

I think I am going to ignore it to be honest because as you say, you would expect both men to get similar readings.
The only reason I guess its still in my head is that in Austria and Germany, you actually cannot build a house without having your house tested for GS.
In my own opinion, Ireland is very far behind on a lot of things and I'm wondering how they can be so strict in one country about this and yet not even heard of in another?
There has to be something to it?

scaredycat

scaredycat wrote: »

Hi, thanks for reply.

I think I am going to ignore it to be honest because as you say, you would expect both men to get similar readings.
The only reason I guess its still in my head is that in Austria and Germany, you actually cannot build a house without having your house tested for GS.
In my own opinion, Ireland is very far behind on a lot of things and I'm wondering how they can be so strict in one country about this and yet not even heard of in another?
There has to be something to it?

Any source for the Austria or Germany claim?
My quick search only produces people selling things.

We are behind in a lot of things I'm sure - the UK Cancer Act 1939 for example banned making false claims about an ability to cure cancer - I imagine a few of those websites I browsed might fall foul of it.

There doesn't have to be anything to it.

seamus

scaredycat wrote: »

The only reason I guess its still in my head is that in Austria and Germany, you actually cannot build a house without having your house tested for GS.

Whoever told you this is lying to you. It's simply not true.

Capt'n Midnight

If you want something to worry about check for radon
http://www.epa.ie/radiation/radonmap/


So geopathic stress is just https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schumann_resonances
and the earth has a frequency of 7.83 Hz , and it's caused by lightning which our ancestors have lived with for the last couple of hundred million years.

Most houses these days have foil lined plasterboard which will cut down external electricity and electromagnetic radiation.

And besides the 50Hz from mains electricity in your house will totally override it and with a wavelength of about 6,000Km you'd have to move 2,000 miles off-grid to avoid it which is impossible.

scaredycat

Thanks for all your responses. I'm still looking for the source 're German and Austrian rules as it was written in the booklet he gave me. (The guy who doused the house on site) so maybe it is what you guys are saying and simply not true?

We are in a high radon area but we do have a radon barrier down so I assume that's all we can do.
I do understand that we cannot avoid GS as I believe it is everywhere, its just that where they drew the lines where it is apparently crossing is in main living area and my bed! Hence the panic.
I don't mind that its in the house as its everywhere so I was I guess just looking for reassurance on it as I'm genuinely trying to ignore it but its hard to relax when subconsciously you know you are possibly sitting on a line of it.
That make any sense?

It does fascinate me how some people do not believe at all and others the opposite. I would love to know the truth behind it all.

Skedaddle

There are no such rules in Austria and Germany. You are being sold snake oil.

The things that make a house feel 'stressful' tend to be about how it interacts with the real environment.

Does it get enough light? You can do things like add roof lights, improve windows or the very cheapest level investigate better curtains and blinds. That can really change how a house feels.

Also things like the colour temperature, white point and intensity of internal artificial lights makes a huge difference. Certain CFLs for example have cheap phosphors that just produce dull, ugly light and can make you feel 'energy less'. It's the same with LEDs - you need to pick your bulbs carefully as they're not all that well designed, particularly some of the very cheap ones.

Internal colour schemes make a huge difference too, even painting wood (particularly around windows) lighter colours can make a huge difference.

Then look at aspects like ventilation - you need air changes and those can be done without heat loss quite easily by using heat recovery ventilation and so on.

Heat losses can cause draughts and make places feel far less 'homey' too.

Also ensure that you do not have any issues with carbon monoxide. This can be produced by *any* fuel burning appliance : gas, oil, solid fuel that's in your home. Make sure they're serviced and working correctly. Carbon monoxide in the air is undetectable by smell, but can cause headaches, mood changes and in extreme cases kill.

Basically, I would focus on tweaking your home to make it a nice, pleasant environment and not waste my money on hocus pocus nonsense described above.

When you get a 'bad vibe' from a building - there's almost always a very rational explanation and something wrong with the design.

rhapsodyinblue

Hi All,

Re geopathic stress, I know it sounds fanciful, but we had our house tested for GS some years ago. The dowser knew nothing about my health history but I went cold when he said there was a line crossing my bed right over the side where I'd had cancer! I can actually dowse myself and was able to locate exactly the lines he found - quite eerie really when something moves of it's own accord in your hands! I was also advised to have copper-ring fencing in a trench around the entire house, which would be very costly as the back is completely cemented, so upwards of 4000 Euro. Then I was told about the Geomack device that one hangs on the wall, which is supposed to help. Has anyone ever had that device? A neighbour had copper rods stuck in the ground to divert the stream of water and he swears but the result of at last being able to sleep. Any suggestions/ideas?

scaredycat

Hi ya,

We got the geomack neutraliser on our wall and it cost us I think 450e in total. We had the house doused twice and apparently line going thru our bed by one guy who doused and second fella said none so impossible to know?
I don't know if the neutraliser has made any difference as thankfully we haven't had issue sleeping or anything yet but I wish I did know as there are days in freaked out over the GS and
other days I don't even believe it exists?

I do worry at times as the guy who doused sells the copper piping said geoMack wasn't strong enough for the level of G S in our house but then he would say that when trying to sell us piping?

If you ask me its a world of unknown? Impossible to know how true or not it all is but it doesn't stop it messing with your head , well not mine anyhow.

Capt'n Midnight

Snake oil.

If your house has electricity then the ring mains is quite literally a copper ring around your house. The earth is earthed, and the neutral should also be at a similar potential.

If your house was built or refurbished in the last 20 years then your plasterboard is likely to be aluminium foil lined too.



TBH I have no idea what extra copper in the ground will do here given how damp our soil is year round. If you really really have to increase conductivity you could use fertilizer. Unless you are on bedrock earthing here is trivial compared to dry climates where you might have to dig down a wee bit.

https://www.met.ie/forecasts/farm-commentary.asp

Well drained soils are reasonably trafficable at the moment, but poorly drained soils continue saturated. Conditions are likely to deteriorate with heavy rain and showers expected over the coming few days.

rhapsodyinblue

Hi scaredycat, did you have any issues before you got the Geomack? I have problems sleeping and don't wake up refreshed (and yes, I have a new good mattress) and after having had cancer directly in the spot where the line used to go under my bed, yes, I am a bit concerned. I do believe that some people are more susceptible than others. My mother sat in a chair on a GS line most of the time and lived to 91! I have done some research re GS in Germany, Austria and Switzerland and they do seem to take it more seriously there and with far more sophisticated equipment than they have here. They call it Geobiology. Which area are you in? I'm in Waterford, haven't had the house tested for radon yet - nearly scared of what might be found!

scaredycat

Hi, I don't really have issues sleeping to be honest, either before or after the geoMack but I generally have never slept well so I can't blame the line as our house is only built 4 years and I have always been a light sleeper.
We haven't had house tested for radon either and I'm not going to as my head is already wrecked knowing we have GS lines running thru it so I'm not going freak myself out more by adding radon to it but I know we have radon barrier down as I was around when it was going down so I'm hoping we are in the clear?
The only thing I would say is that where one of the lines are, apparently the strongest line, the socket keeps blowing there (coincidence, possibly?) But also any plant I put there dies too? I have tried several and its nothing to do with sunlight or temp etc so it kinda makes me think we definitely have issue there. But like realistically I'm not sure if you can ever escape it? I would be more worried it would cause us an illness really.
Have you moved your bed since cancer?

rhapsodyinblue

Hi, if you have a radon barrier you're fine re radon. Yes, I did move my bed but GS lines can move, and especially after all this rain we've had. Am enquiring at Geovital in the UK re a mat to place under the bed. No, I don't think one can ever escape it, but I would like to reduce its potential impact.

scaredycat

Jeez if the lines can move as easily as that then you would be driven demented trying to steer clear.
I agree tho 're trying to reduce impact as much as possible if possible. Let me know 're the mat though for under the bed if you don't mind as I would be interested to see how that works.
If I bring anything else into this house like that my husband will think I'm having a crisis. Ha! ☺

TheBoyConor

So you got completely different readings from both men? Oh yeah, that's probably because both were talking out opposite sides of their arse!

My take on this is that this chancer saw that you had a big house and thought - "ooh, probably have money - good mark".

I challenge you to provide a *credible* scientific, engineering or medical peer previewed paper providing any sort of solid evidence of geopathic stress and its effects on humans.

What exactly does this neutraliser actually consist of? Have you investigated it?
If i was paying 450 euros for a device I'd want to know what it was about....

scaredycat

Skittin at your reply and honesty but you do have a point to a certain degree.
firstly, the guy who came to my house to douse it did not sell me the geoMack but did instead try to sell me copper piping that goes around the house which was roughly 4k. (Not hope I was going for that one)
at same time tho, the guy I bought the neutralizer from was English, dulWich health store. My mam of course wanted one when I got one but he told her that her house didn't need one as it didn't have GS so I guess he could have made another sale but didn't?
The amount of people I have heard stories about 're cancer and serious illnesses caused by GS is for me too scary to not believe?
I do of course wish I could see physical proof of its existence but if you research GS it does seem to be in existence, tho I admit a bit scientific for me to understand?

TheBoyConor

The saddest thing is that there are plenty gullible or vulnerable chronically ill people out there who will fall for this because they are desperate and end up seriously out of pocket.

Despite their aparent helpful intentions - these "dowsers" are nothing short of sh!tsters out to rip off people who are vulnerable or naieve. I don't know if it is criminal but it is certainly up there in terms of scumbaggery.

Like all good scams, it is based around a grain of truth that is then distorted to suit the aims of the scammer. There is various phenomonon related to the earths magnetic field but GS is pure pseudoscience. A quick google search will demonstrate that.

To everyone reading, please please please do not let yourselves or any vulnerable family or friends be taken for a ride with this.
What's more, if you know of these "practictioners" being active in your areas I'd advise you to notify community alert groups and the Gardai so that vulnerable or elderly people are not taken advantage of.

rhapsodyinblue

Hi Scaredycat, never heard back from the mat people, which makes me a bit suspicious. But read about the plug-in Helios 3 with mostly good comments. Also spoke to someone who had the copper piping done and found it very beneficial, but very costly. That person also mentioned though that GS can affect some people and not others.

rhapsodyinblue

Hi Scaredycat, am still no further re the Geomack. A friend very much into healing etc referred me to another website in Australia, which sells the Geoclense. There's also a Geoclense UK, and I asked the Australian firm if they are one and the same (importing from Australia would incur import duty and VAT). I'm thinking of buying it perhaps.