OLED For under £1000

deezell

ElectriQ 55" Android OLED tv for £999, deliver to ROI for £15. Its an LG Oled panel .This is start of mainstream priced Oled TV. Expect sub €1000 by end of 2018.
https://www.appliancesdirect.co.uk/p/eiq-55uhdt2holed/electriq-eiq55uhdt2holed-55-inch-oled-tv

unklerosco

deezell wrote: »

ElectriQ 55" Android OLED tv for £999, deliver to ROI for £15. Its an LG Oled panel .This is start of mainstream priced Oled TV. Expect sub €1000 by end of 2018.
https://www.appliancesdirect.co.uk/p...m=tradedoubler

Link didn't work, here's the correct one https://www.appliancesdirect.co.uk/p/eiq-55uhdt2holed/electriq-eiq55uhdt2holed-55-inch-oled-tv

Great price for an oled...

listermint

Yeah but how good is it . That's the key. And reviews?

deezell

listermint wrote: »

Yeah but how good is it . That's the key. And reviews?

Full review in the link, plus here
https://www.whathifi.com/news/55in-oled-4k-tv-yours-ps1000

Oat23

That's a lot of money for a lower end brand with a 1 or 2 year warranty. Not a hope I would risk it.

CroftAlice

Pretty expensive.I have a full hd tv and i bought it for 200€.

deezell

Oat23 wrote: »

That's a lot of money for a lower end brand with a 1 or 2 year warranty. Not a hope I would risk it.

It's an LG Oled in a budget make. LG pumping Oled panels to lower price manufacturers..Expect walker, Hisense OLED tv's.

deezell

CroftAlice wrote: »

Pretty expensive.I have a full hd tv and i bought it for 200€.

This is OLED UHD. Different class.

tedpan

CroftAlice wrote:

Pretty expensive.I have a full hd tv and i bought it for 200€.

deezell wrote:

This is OLED UHD. Different class.

Ignore them, another troll being a moron..

theteal

Sorry but I'm not having a review from the retailer, not a chance.

Anyway, this telly was posted here a few weeks ago and I've still yet to see much in the way of info online about it. Nobody knows what year the panel came from, nobody expects its a 2017 panel, previous year oleds have a higher rate of issues, actually if its pre 2016 just don't bother.

Also, has it been confirmed what version of android? The original thinking was that it was the tablet version, which means none of the streaming apps will display 4k.

How's motion processing?

I think I saw the 49" Sony XE9005 is £850 in curry's UK, absolutely no contest

Oat23

deezell wrote: »

It's an LG Oled in a budget make. LG pumping Oled panels to lower price manufacturers..Expect walker, Hisense OLED tv's.

There's a lot more that goes into it though. Not all about who makes the panel.

As theteal says you have to think about things like motion handling and then what I said about the overall build quality. It's a lot of money to gamble.

deezell

The point is it's OLED. It's the only game in town. Premier league vs Phoenix park. If you're happy with old proven technology and it's limitations, fine. If you want to try the future now without breaking the bank, here's your chance. Or just wait until OLED is mainstream, and LED is landfill.

Creamy Goodness

deezell wrote: »

The point is it's OLED. It's the only game in town. Premier league vs Phoenix park. If you're happy with old proven technology and it's limitations, fine. If you want to try the future now without breaking the bank, here's your chance. Or just wait until OLED is mainstream, and LED is landfill.

Can I have your bank account if £1000 isn't breaking it? My bank is well and truly broken since Christmas.

unklerosco

i think this thread is more suited to the AV forums as the discussion is more about the possibilty of products like this bringing OLED into the mainstream.

deezell

unklerosco wrote: »

i think this thread is more suited to the AV forums as the discussion is more about the possibilty of products like this bringing OLED into the mainstream.

I only wanted to post a bargain alert. I discuss tech elsewhere. Creamy, if you're broke, don't be reading bargain sites!

4oyo

There’s a QLED 55” Samsung on sale in Currys for €1,049.

Granted it doesn’t have the same natural light experience as OLED looks like a decent deal for an established brand

http://www.currys.ie/Mobile/Product/samsung-qe55q6famt-55-smart-4k-ultra-hd-hdr-qled-tv/346233/397.0.1

bk

The next year is going to be incredibly exciting for OLED's, with prices expected to drop significantly across the board as LG floods the market with OLED panels. Prices of about €1000/€2000 or less for 55/65 from even top brands are expected over the next year.

They should finally completely knock rubbish LED/QLED junk out of the high end of the market and even make significant head ways into the mid-rage of the market. Samsung have a rough few years ahead.

drake70

I clicked both links that appear in the first two posts and received a "malicious website" warning.

Fr_Dougal

4oyo wrote: »

There’s a QLED 55” Samsung on sale in Currys for €1,049.

Granted it doesn’t have the same natural light experience as OLED looks like a decent deal for an established brand

http://www.currys.ie/Mobile/Product/samsung-qe55q6famt-55-smart-4k-ultra-hd-hdr-qled-tv/346233/397.0.1

No comparison between QLED and OLED.

deezell

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

No comparison between QLED and OLED.

True but it's still fantastic compared to ordinary LED. I bought one cyber Monday from one if these
https://m.pricespy.co.uk/product/4517796
Price keeps dropping

rubadub

tedpan wrote: »

Ignore them, another troll being a moron..

I doubt they were trolling, might just be happy with the 200 TV and may not have seen an OLED, or not that big into TV quality so does not put much value on them.

Last one I saw was in DID, I was in awe, since I honestly thought it was a well printed poster on the wall I was looking at until it started moving.

Creamy Goodness wrote: »

Can I have your bank account if £1000 isn't breaking it? My bank is well and truly broken since Christmas.

£1000 is not that much for a top of the line TV relative to average weekly wages, I think in the 80s it would have been a lot more relative to wages. If you watch a lot of TV/films I think it is a good investment. I see people blowing what I consider stupid money on cars or extras in cars, or BBQs etc -each to their own though, some just have different appreciations of the devices.

Creamy Goodness

rubadub wrote: »

£1000 is not that much for a top of the line TV relative to average weekly wages, I think in the 80s it would have been a lot more relative to wages. If you watch a lot of TV/films I think it is a good investment. I see people blowing what I consider stupid money on cars or extras in cars, or BBQs etc -each to their own though, some just have different appreciations of the devices.

I agree that £1000 isn't a lot for a top of the line TV and I watch my fair share of TV, but it's still more than enough that the "not breaking the bank" phrase is a little out of place :pac:.

I'll be in the market for an OLED to replace my Panasonic 1080p Plasma in the next 6-9 months (when I'm hoping to move house) so hopefully around then they'll be some nice 65" LG branded OLED's (with all the bells and whistles of HDR/Dolby Atmos etc.) around the €1,500 mark.

bk

Creamy Goodness wrote: »

I agree that £1000 isn't a lot for a top of the line TV and I watch my fair share of TV, but it's still more than enough that the "not breaking the bank" phrase is a little out of place :pac:.

I think the comment was made in the context that when these OLED TV's first launched just 5 years ago they cost 15,000! Now you can get the same size with better quality for 1,500

Still not cheap, but reachable for many enthusiasts.

Creamy Goodness wrote: »

I'll be in the market for an OLED to replace my Panasonic 1080p Plasma in the next 6-9 months (when I'm hoping to move house) so hopefully around then they'll be some nice 65" LG branded OLED's (with all the bells and whistles of HDR/Dolby Atmos etc.) around the €1,500 mark.

Almost exactly the same, I've a lovely 50" Pioneer that I'd like to replace with a 65" OLED

Though I'd say you are unlikely to find a LG 65" Oled for 1,500 in 6 to 9 months. Probably closer to 2,000 mark for that. I suspect end 2018, into 2019 before you see that size drop that much.

mailburner

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

No comparison between QLED and OLED.

was in currys a week back and I didn't notice one being that much better

mailburner

mailburner wrote: »

was in currys a week back and I didn't notice one being that much better

Under the bright overhead lights of a showroom, the sheer brightness of some LED models can make them seem comparable to OLED.

In real viewing conditions, there's no contest. OLED delivers spectacular picture quality. I wouldn't take a chance on this brand personally but it's a very good sign that we're seeing prices come down.

bk

mailburner wrote: »

was in currys a week back and I didn't notice one being that much better

Stores like Curry's are by the far the worst place to review TV's

After all how many people live in a warehouse, with super bright white daylight lights and watch a TV within a foot!!

Usually TV's have what is called a "store mode" which makes them super bright and not all how a person would normally watch them on their sofa at home with the lights out at a normal viewing distances.

A big issue with LCD's is light bled from the backlight, which normally only shows up at home in the dark.

They also will normally show only the prefect content, designed to show off the TV, 4K UHD, normally very slow moving vistas or non moving close ups of flowers, in very bright light. Lovely colours and look lovely, but not realistic of day to day viewing.

Rather then say a fast moving action movie with lots of dark scenes or fast moving sports with a lot of TV's can really struggle with. And they will rarely show you how SD will look on them, even though that might be the majority of content you are viewing.

This is why high end stores have a viewing room to show off high end TV's. A darkened room with a sofa at the correct distance, so you can try it out in a more realistic situation.

Also be aware that stores can get marketing money or promotions to push particular TV's from a particular brand, etc.

JamesLenihan

Nobody has reviewed this yet so i wouldn't touch it until its been tested. The link to the What Hi-Fi page isnt a review. It even says so if you take the time to actually read it.

"It should come as no surprise this is the cheapest we’ve seen a 55in OLED TV and, while we've yet to review this model, the fact it has an LG OLED panel is a promising start."

positron

Also looking to pick up a 55"+ OLED when the price drops below 1000 euro, hopefully by summer. As soon as OLED prices drop, there should be an equal / more dramatic drop in LED prices as well - must resist the temptation...!!

xtal191

Isnt burn-in still a bit of an issue with OLEDs?

mailburner

Deleted User wrote: »

Under the bright overhead lights of a showroom, the sheer brightness of some LED models can make them seem comparable to OLED.

In real viewing conditions, there's no contest. OLED delivers spectacular picture quality. I wouldn't take a chance on this brand personally but it's a very good sign that we're seeing prices come down.

I spotted one on offer here, might have been currys and it was samsung qled funny enough (think it was £1300 for one day)
reviews weren't good though, either sound issues or picture being grainy (that could be something else though with the pic) was certainly enough to put me off spending that kind of money on a tv though
Folks saying a soundbar was essential with it also.

bk

xtal191 wrote: »

Isnt burn-in still a bit of an issue with OLEDs?

Sigh!

No issue, unless you plan on running your TV at full brightness, with a static image for days on end. But then QLED's would also suffer from "burn in" under such a situation.

Basically it is non issue for any normal TV user.

I'd agree with JamesLenihan, I'd be cautious about this particular TV in the OP until reviews are done by the usual sites.

jonerkinsella

bk wrote: »

Sigh!

No issue, unless you plan on running your TV at full brightness, with a static image for days on end. But then QLED's would also suffer from "burn in" under such a situation.

Basically it is non issue for any normal TV user.

I'd agree with JamesLenihan, I'd be cautious about this particular TV in the OP until reviews are done by the usual sites.

Plenty of ordinary users here with burn in,
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/40-oled-technology-flat-panels-general/2927390-2017-lg-oled-burn-pictures.html

If anyone is thinking of buying an OLED, you should take the time to read reports and then make an informed choice before you leep, I'm glad I did. I was thinking of upgrading over the holidays.

You can ignore it all you want, but it can't be all a conspiracy by Samsung. The net is full of reports from ordinary users with the problem.

Till LG eliminate this serious problem with OLED, I'll stick with my KS7000 and be very happy to do so.

bk

We use to hear the same fear mongering about Plasma all the time. I worried about it a lot, then I bought a Pioneer Plasma, 7 years later I couldn't be happier. Vastly superior to any LCD I've ever seen and not a sign of burn in and I never babied it.

The TV industry has been a wasteland since they stopped making Plasma's IMO. Too many rubbish gimmicks (curved TV's, etc.) and too little focus on plain old picture quality.

My concern in the last few years was if my Plasma ever broke, I'd have to replace it with a LCD and end up with a worse TV!

Fortunately OLEDs have turned up now. A friend got one a few months ago and we have watched a couple of 4K Blu-Rays on it and it looks great. Finally a TV that is good enough to replace my plasma.

If you read avforums you can also find a laundry list of issues for any LCD.

bk

mailburner wrote: »

Folks saying a soundbar was essential with it also.

In fairness that is pretty common to all high end TV's, both OLED/QLED

Super thin TV's with little or no bezels doesn't leave much space for speakers. Audio just needs space for good quality sound. So if you want good audio, plan to add 5.1 speakers or a soundbar to most high end TV's.

Silly I know, it is similar to the whole too thin smartphones thing with batteries that are too small.

Grab All Association

https://youtu.be/1w6dOLQxnj4 watch before you buy

deezell

mailburner wrote: »

I spotted one on offer here, might have been currys and it was samsung qled funny enough (think it was £1300 for one day)
reviews weren't good though, either sound issues or picture being grainy (that could be something else though with the pic) was certainly enough to put me off spending that kind of money on a tv though
Folks saying a soundbar was essential with it also.

Sound quality on the Samsung QLED is excellent. It's €1049 till tonight in Currys. £899 in UK. Some default picture settings need to be tweaked to get rid of overenhancement, but it's stunning
Every t.v. technology has it's issues and detractors. My 6 year old LG plasma whistled like a bird, high voltage inverter noise. It's moved to the "good" room replacing ancient LCD. QLED is in the TV den, 42" LCD which cost €1000 before digital tv, hence wrong MPg2 tuner for Saorview, that's given away to someone who was still watching a 26" crt. He's delighted with the quality, so some people are easily satisfied. I've got 55" QLED for half what that LCD cost in real terms in its day. €1000 over 5 years is €4 A week. That wouldn't break a piggybank.

Maxav

bk wrote: »

We use to hear the same fear mongering about Plasma all the time. I worried about it a lot, then I bought a Pioneer Plasma, 7 years later I couldn't be happier. Vastly superior to any LCD I've ever seen and not a sign of burn in and I never babied it.

The TV industry has been a wasteland since they stopped making Plasma's IMO. Too many rubbish gimmicks (curved TV's, etc.) and too little focus on plain old picture quality.

My concern in the last few years was if my Plasma ever broke, I'd have to replace it with a LCD and end up with a worse TV!

Fortunately OLEDs have turned up now

Same! I’ve one of the very last Kuro Pioneers. Dread the day it gives up the ghost, Oled is “ok”, fantastic contrast, great blacks but it still suffers from some of the same problems as led.
Don’t look too closely, once you see it you can’t unsee it. Bottom line is, plasma is still the king!!!!

jonerkinsella

bk wrote: »

We use to hear the same fear mongering about Plasma all the time. I worried about it a lot, then I bought a Pioneer Plasma, 7 years later I couldn't be happier. Vastly superior to any LCD I've ever seen and not a sign of burn in and I never babied it.

The TV industry has been a wasteland since they stopped making Plasma's IMO. Too many rubbish gimmicks (curved TV's, etc.) and too little focus on plain old picture quality.

My concern in the last few years was if my Plasma ever broke, I'd have to replace it with a LCD and end up with a worse TV!

Fortunately OLEDs have turned up now. A friend got one a few months ago and we have watched a couple of 4K Blu-Rays on it and it looks great. Finally a TV that is good enough to replace my plasma.

If you read avforums you can also find a laundry list of issues for any LCD.

I agree with you to an extent , I had a plasma 2 cycles ago, it suffered from bad image retention though and I was glad to see the back of it. I then bought an lcd and did notice issues over the plasma, but overall I was happy with the day to day viewing and the cheaper leccy bills. I now have a ks and find the picture amazing. LCD has come on a lot in the last 4-5yrs. HDR is probably the biggest jump in tv's for the last 10yrs at least.

As I said already, I do consider OLED superior and an upgrade over LCD as I've seen both in action, but OLED does have issues with bi. I hope that it gets sorted as I do believe that it is the way to go as it eliminates light bleed issues that LCD suffers from, but it has a bit of reputation damage at the moment.

ps, you did well buying a Pioneer plasma as they were by far the best one ever produced.

positron

bk wrote: »

Super thin TV's with little or no bezels doesn't leave much space for speakers. Audio just needs space for good quality sound. So if you want good audio, plan to add 5.1 speakers or a soundbar to most high end TV's.

LG's W series makes sense. It's as if they are trying to turn a limitation into a feature, and it looks really good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdAda7gtdFY

Frank_1969

rubadub wrote: »

I doubt they were trolling, might just be happy with the 200 TV and may not have seen an OLED, or not that big into TV quality so does not put much value on them.

Last one I saw was in DID, I was in awe, since I honestly thought it was a well printed poster on the wall I was looking at until it started moving.


£1000 is not that much for a top of the line TV relative to average weekly wages, I think in the 80s it would have been a lot more relative to wages. If you watch a lot of TV/films I think it is a good investment. I see people blowing what I consider stupid money on cars or extras in cars, or BBQs etc -each to their own though, some just have different appreciations of the devices.

I recall my dad buying his first colour tv in1981.It was a salora 19 inch and cost £500.The average weekly wage at the time was under £100/€128.
So roughly 5 weeks wages for a new tv.
Today,€1000 is hardly 2 weeks pay for most employees.And you get a 55 inch screen,smart,4k UHD.
In relative terms it's a give away.

bk

Maxav wrote: »

Same! I’ve one of the very last Kuro Pioneers. Dread the day it gives up the ghost, Oled is “ok”, fantastic contrast, great blacks but it still suffers from some of the same problems as led.
Don’t look too closely, once you see it you can’t unsee it. Bottom line is, plasma is still the king!!!!

Exactly the same.

I'm hoping it will continue to last another year or two and that OLED will continue to mature and drop in price.

Watching 4k Blurays on my friends LG OLED is lovely, however HD doesn't look as good as my Kuro and SD looks way worse. Makes sense giving upscaling.

I've really enjoyed watching my friends OLED, but I was surprised that I didn't come away feeling like I had to run out and get one straight away.

The availability of 4k content while it has improved a lot in the past year is still very limited. The reality is 90% of what I watch would only be in SD/HD and the Pio handles those far better.

Hopefully in two years time there will be a lot more content that will make it worth jumping, along with more mature OLED and lower prices.

However I'm relieved that at least now, if my lovely Kuro died in the morning, that there is least some decent, if imperfect option.

jonerkinsella wrote: »

ps, you did well buying a Pioneer plasma as they were by far the best one ever produced.

I know, I was extremely lucky, it was really a steal in the end. Got it after prices were cut big time after Pioneer announced they were stopping production.

It bucked the trend that technology gets better over time. Only in the last year have I seen TV's with 4k HDR content that finally top it. So it was one of the best buys I've ever made.

My only regret was that I only got a 50" and didn't stretch to the 60!

Frank_1969, that is a great way to look at it.

micks_address

bk wrote: »

Exactly the same.

I'm hoping it will continue to last another year or two and that OLED will continue to mature and drop in price.

Watching 4k Blurays on my friends LG OLED is lovely, however HD doesn't look as good as my Kuro and SD looks way worse. Makes sense giving upscaling.

I've really enjoyed watching my friends OLED, but I was surprised that I didn't come away feeling like I had to run out and get one straight away.

The availability of 4k content while it has improved a lot in the past year is still very limited. The reality is 90% of what I watch would only be in SD/HD and the Pio handles those far better.

Hopefully in two years time there will be a lot more content that will make it worth jumping, along with more mature OLED and lower prices.

However I'm relieved that at least now, if my lovely Kuro died in the morning, that there is least some decent, if imperfect option.



I know, I was extremely lucky, it was really a steal in the end. Got it after prices were cut big time after Pioneer announced they were stopping production.

It bucked the trend that technology gets better over time. Only in the last year have I seen TV's with 4k HDR content that finally top it. So it was one of the best buys I've ever made.

My only regret was that I only got a 50" and didn't stretch to the 60!

Frank_1969, that is a great way to look at it.

Actually the best plasma made were the last generation of Panasonic vts. Beat the kuros hands down any day.

While I loved my plasma the oled is better.. Can go much brighter than plasma while maintaining the black level. Power consumption is also way lower..

bk

micks_address wrote: »

Actually the best plasma made were the last generation of Panasonic vts. Beat the kuros hands down any day.

Yes, though that was 3 years after the Kuro, it used Kuro tech (Panasonic licensed it from Pioneer) and was a lot more expensive then what I paid for the Kuro.

Given 3 extra years use, I think second best is pretty good

Damn I just realised I've had mine for 8 years now!! And hoping to get another year or two out of it, what a buy!

micks_address wrote: »

While I loved my plasma the oled is better.. Can go much brighter than plasma while maintaining the black level. Power consumption is also way lower..

Brilliant point!

Just done the maths, given my usage, I'd actually save €156 per year! Could almost pay for itself over 10 years!!!

micks_address

bk wrote: »

Yes, though that was 3 years after the Kuro, it used Kuro tech (Panasonic licensed it from Pioneer) and was a lot more expensive then what I paid for the Kuro.

Given 3 extra years use, I think second best is pretty good

Damn I just realised I've had mine for 8 years now!! And hoping to get another year or two out of it, what a buy!



Brilliant point!

Just done the maths, given my usage, I'd actually save €156 per year! Could almost pay for itself over 10 years!!!

The question I'd ask myself paying 1k for a relatively unknown TV make is would a corresponding high end lcd from Panasonic, Sony etc be better? Plus with oled being relatively new tech it's reassuring to have something like the 6 year warranty richer sounds offer.. That being said I've never kept a TV that long! At 55 inches it doesn't get much better than the oled E55 LG I have.. I question the value of 4k even at this size.. Sometimes its hard to see the difference

deezell

44 posts in a single day from one bargain alert. I'm exhausted. As an aside, you do become addicted to free 4K YouTube videos if you get smart to 4k OLED or QLED. Maybe I'll subscribe to a 4k content channel, which one? That's for another thread.

bk

micks_address wrote: »

The question I'd ask myself paying 1k for a relatively unknown TV make is would a corresponding high end lcd from Panasonic, Sony etc be better? Plus with oled being relatively new tech it's reassuring to have something like the 6 year warranty richer sounds offer.. That being said I've never kept a TV that long! At 55 inches it doesn't get much better than the oled E55 LG I have.. I question the value of 4k even at this size.. Sometimes its hard to see the difference

Actually I was thinking more in terms of a LG from Richersounds, rather then the OP. 55" LG for €1650 with 6 year warranty. €156 a year electricity savings wouldn't quite fully cover it, but would be close enough. Worth keeping in mind.

how.gareth

deezell wrote: »

44 posts in a single day from one bargain alert. I'm exhausted. As an aside, you do become addicted to free 4K YouTube videos if you get smart to 4k OLED or QLED. Maybe I'll subscribe to a 4k content channel, which one? That's for another thread.

What’s the story with the 4K videos on you tube? If I play them on my smart 4K led will I get a true 4K video display?

micks_address

how.gareth wrote: »

What’s the story with the 4K videos on you tube? If I play them on my smart 4K led will I get a true 4K video display?

You should get 4k but not all TV YouTube apps play hdr

deezell

how.gareth wrote: »

What’s the story with the 4K videos on you tube? If I play them on my smart 4K led will I get a true 4K video display?

Yes if they're recorded that way. Plenty of amateur mobile phone stuff but some professional stuff too. You'll need a decent bit rate on your internet.

how.gareth

micks_address wrote: »

You should get 4k but not all TV YouTube apps play hdr

It’s the official you tube app on a Lg tv

how.gareth

deezell wrote: »

Yes if they're recorded that way. Plenty of amateur mobile phone stuff but some professional stuff too. You'll need a decent bit rate on your internet.

Cool cheers don’t be shy about starting a thread if you feel like sharing some good quality 4K you tube channels!