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Help me identify this accent (white supremacist)

  • 16-12-2017 11:17am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭


    From a documentary called "Blood in the Face" about a conference of white supremacists in Michigan, this guy sounds like he is originally Irish but his accent is really hard to pin down. Any ideas what part of the country he might be from?

    I apologise for the subject matter which is openly racist.

    (I came across this question on a US-based message board and brought it here in the hope of better-informed answers - I hope that's okay).


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,095 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Well that's one way to get people to watch the video I suppose! I am not sure who it would convince though, it was so incompetent as to be ridiculous as much as offensive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭hibby


    Just to be clear: I don't endorse the sentiments the guy is expressing - I abhor them and I have no interest in getting anyone to watch the video other than getting people's opinions about his accent. If I thought for an instant that anyone would find his arguments persuasive I would ask a mod to close this thread and remove the link.


    For what it's worth, my understanding is that the aim of the documentary makers was to expose rather than to support the white supremacists.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    Sounds like a British person doing an Irish accent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,413 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    It's a 60s RTE accent


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭Don Kiddick


    It's one of those accents could be from, let's say Kildare, but with a UCD education...could just as easily be From Nova Scotia, no way of telling really


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,937 ✭✭✭SmartinMartin


    He's not irish. Possibly newfoundland/nova scotia with a touch of brit.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,853 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    It's a 60s RTE accent

    That's what it reminded me of too


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 169 ✭✭DuMorph


    It's a 60s RTE accent

    Agree, it's a provincial Irish accent buffed into what could be called Irish Received Pronunciation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    Sounds like someone who was born in Ireland to wealthy parents, possibly protestant, but emigrated to the US as a teenager or young adult.

    Edit: Sounds a bit like Eamonn Andrews.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Why is "white supremacist" in title.
    Do white supremacists have special accents?
    Is it click baiting?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭Don Kiddick


    biko wrote: »
    Why is "white supremacist" in title.
    Do white supremacists have special accents?
    Is it click baiting?

    Click and find out ;):D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭hibby


    biko wrote: »
    Why is "white supremacist" in title.
    Do white supremacists have special accents?
    Is it click baiting?

    It was intended by way of a warning because I thought people might be upset by the content. I can see how it looks like clickbait but that wasn't my intention and I don't have any association with the video.

    I would be happy if the mods would edit the title to remove the last two words and make it look less clickbait-y.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,937 ✭✭✭SmartinMartin


    I took it as a warning about content.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    He sounds english to me..? American or irish wouldnt have crossed my mind listening to his voice


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,853 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    wakka12 wrote: »
    He sounds english to me..? American or irish wouldnt have crossed my mind listening to his voice

    That first 'well' sounds very Irish


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,033 ✭✭✭Call me Al


    He's Irish. But living in America with a while going by the discreet twang on some of those words.
    But where in Ireland? God knows. I agree with whoever said it's received pronunciation Irish style.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,613 ✭✭✭server down


    Yes. It’s the old Irish RP - the RTE accent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,874 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    This is the cast list, but it is hard to link it to the running order of the video. Most likely it is John Ross Taylor who was Canadian. There are a couple of online images which look a bit like the person in the video.

    As has been said there are elements of his speech which point to a Newfoundland accent, but he was from Toronto.

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101479/fullcredits/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Berserker


    wakka12 wrote: »
    He sounds english to me..? American or irish wouldnt have crossed my mind listening to his voice

    Not sure where you are getting the English from. Definitely Irish, sounds like a middle class south side dub, who has been living in the USA for a while and has picked up a hint of an American accent.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,628 ✭✭✭darkdubh


    Kind of reminded me of Kevin Myers. The guy certainly has an Irish connection but he might not have been born here.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,628 ✭✭✭darkdubh


    BTW according to Wiki John Ross Taylor was born in 1913 which would make him too old to be the guy in the video seeing as it was shot circa 1990. He would have been nearly 80 then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,218 ✭✭✭bobbysands81


    Very interesting accent.

    I agree with some posts earlier that there could be some Newfoundland in the accent. I also think there could be some Boston in it. Just to confuse further I thought I could also get a South African or Afrikaans type accent too... as well as British. There is an Irish twinge at times and a clarity in some pronunciation that guides towards a non-descript Irish accent.

    All over the place really!

    Listened to it again and I deffo get Boston or Maine accent, deffo get Irish and I think a touch of Afrikaans. I’d say Irish born but brought up abroad. I wonder does he have family links to British Army.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,874 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    darkdubh wrote: »
    BTW according to Wiki John Ross Taylor was born in 1913 which would make him too old to be the guy in the video seeing as it was shot circa 1990. He would have been nearly 80 then.

    Some of the footage is archive material. The guy in black and white died in 1967. But I agree the Irish/British/Boston/Newfoundland/Afrikaans guy looks more modern.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    Well he's not Irish.

    He's North American.

    Not all North Americans speak with a New York, Chicago, Toronto, or Boston accent.

    Many areas, like Maine or Newfoundland, sound in some ways Irish.

    This guy is not Irish, but he is a wanker!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,785 ✭✭✭KungPao


    Reminds me of the guy who interviewed Muhammad Ali for RTE but mixed up with all sorts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,271 ✭✭✭annascott


    Sounds like Pierce Brosnan


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,218 ✭✭✭bobbysands81


    Just bumping to see if anyone found out anything else about this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    Sounds like he is putting the accent on a little....


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭Ralf and Florian


    I don't think he's the Canadian guy already mentioned, don't think he looks anything like him. As some posters have said he sounds to me like he has an RTE accent of the type that you used to hear more so in the past ie the 80's and that has been usurped the D4 accent.


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