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RE-routing gas main

  • 04-12-2017 7:02pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭


    Hey everyone,

    I know the real answer to my question is "how long is a piece of string?", but I'm really only looking for ballpark figures.

    Family member buying 1970's house, which in some parts looks like it never escaped from that decade:eek:. One of the 'features' in the kitchen is a gas meter, and multiple connections from it. Its connected to a gunbarrell mains pipe (the incoming), the output connects to some copper for the gas boiler and cooker. There's also a connection to another piece of gun barrel which goes under the wooden floor to a nearby concrete boiler room - it obviously used to house the gas fired hot air heating system. I think the gun barrel in here is capped off. (must be, eh? seeing as the burner etc is gone).

    Anyway, my unasked for suggestion is to remove EVERYTHING and start from scratch, with the meter moved outside. I would imagine the best course of action would be to find the other end of the gun barrel mains and disconnect it at the footpath. Then get a new mains 'moled' in under the path and come up outside the front door (well, round the side to be exact) and fit the meter on the wall there. Then get a RGI guy to reinstall heating and cooker connections etc.

    So, anyone have any idea what GNI might charge to do their bit and would they disconnect the gun barrel as I've suggested above? Don't like the idea of a capped off mains under the floor. Is it likely to be hundreds, or thousands????

    Thanks in advance everyone!
    Nick


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭NickNickleby


    I've found some info on Gas Networks site about some of this stuff, but I'm a little unsure as to whether certain jobs require a couple of different cost items on the example quotes, eg if my job actually requires a separate disconnection and reconnection cost on top of the running of the new main.

    Also, I've no idea how current the prices are.

    Of course the handy thing would be to just look for a quote, but its not my house and my family member would probably prefer to spend the money on a new freezer. If I was armed with a ballpark figure, I might be able to persuade her to consider getting the quote. (interferin' oul dad, that I am...)

    Any ideas out there?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,565 ✭✭✭K.Flyer


    Tbh nobody can give you much of an idea as to what your cost would be without a site visit as there can be too many variables involved.
    First you need to contact Gas Networks Ireland on 1850 200694 and arrange a quotation with them to have the meter moved.
    Then visit www.RGII.ie and look up Gas Registered Installers in your area and get at least two - three separate quotations to have the new pipework installation done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭NickNickleby


    K.Flyer wrote: »
    Tbh nobody can give you much of an idea as to what your cost would be without a site visit as there can be too many variables involved.
    First you need to contact Gas Networks Ireland on 1850 200694 and arrange a quotation with them to have the meter moved.
    Then visit www.RGII.ie and look up Gas Registered Installers in your area and get at least two - three separate quotations to have the new pipework installation done.

    Thanks Kflyer for replying.
    Given that the house is a normal 3 bed semi, small front garden, so about 7m from the main to the front door, and it's only this part of the job I'm trying to price, would you think I'd get away for under €2k?

    Thanks again. And I'm not being obstinate (I hope), I'm just trying to convince someone that it's worth considering, getting a quote, that is.

    Nick


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,565 ✭✭✭K.Flyer


    Thanks Kflyer for replying.
    Given that the house is a normal 3 bed semi, small front garden, so about 7m from the main to the front door, and it's only this part of the job I'm trying to price, would you think I'd get away for under €2k?

    Thanks again. And I'm not being obstinate (I hope), I'm just trying to convince someone that it's worth considering, getting a quote, that is.

    Nick

    I would think that it would cost less than that, but by how much depends on GNI's cost and then the routing of the new pipework from the meter to each appliance (boiler, hob, fire).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭NickNickleby


    K.Flyer wrote: »
    I would think that it would cost less than that, but by how much depends on GNI's cost and then the routing of the new pipework from the meter to each appliance (boiler, hob, fire).

    Hi K Flyer, and once again, thanks for taking the trouble.

    That sounds in the region of what I hoped for. My fear was that with it being a monopoly type of situation, gni would put the price through the roof. I'm treating the rest of it - the cost of installing a new boiler and cooker and piping it back to the new meter location - as a separate cost. All of that is going to be done, regardless, whereas the meter move is my idea of a good idea.
    So my approach to my daughter will be, hey you're spending say 4k on heating and cooking , add 2k and free up a large area in your kitchen.AND it'll be all new infrastructure with old gun barrel gone.

    Thanks for your comments.
    Njck


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 940 ✭✭✭GHOST MGG


    It cost me 400 euros to have meter moved from under stairs to outside and this didnt include having to pay a gas approved installer to then reroute all the internal gas piping to outside...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭NickNickleby


    GHOST MGG wrote: »
    It cost me 400 euros to have meter moved from under stairs to outside and this didnt include having to pay a gas approved installer to then reroute all the internal gas piping to outside...

    Hi Ghost,
    Thanks for that info , and wow that was seriously economical☺. Can you recall how they did it? Did they run a new plastic pipe from the footpath to your house?

    Cheers,
    Nick


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 940 ✭✭✭GHOST MGG


    @NickNickleby yes they dug a small long trench from path through my front garden to the left of my front door..to be honest i had not researched it much and was taken aback when the engineers told me they were not insured to touch any piping internally in the house and that i would have to pay extra for an installer..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭NickNickleby


    GHOST MGG wrote: »
    @NickNickleby yes they dug a small long trench from path through my front garden to the left of my front door..to be honest i had not researched it much and was taken aback when the engineers told me they were not insured to touch any piping internally in the house and that i would have to pay extra for an installer..

    Cheers Ghost!
    Well to me that was a bargain, considering how many people must have worked on it, and then put it all back together again when they were finished.

    I'm sure the conversation that began "oh no, we don't do that part!!" was quite a surprise, hopefully this was not just as they cut off the gas :eek:

    Thanks for your input, and also to KFlyer. Now I can convince her to go and get a quote, even if she ultimately chooses the fridge freezer instead :D:D:D

    Nick


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