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Boundary wall lower than road.

  • 02-12-2017 8:38am
    #1
    murph226
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    I am looking for some advice on my boundary wall.

    It is 80ft long, runs alongside the main road and the site is about 3 feet lower than the road.

    The current wall is very old and has no footings, it looks like and old dry stone wall but someone pointed it with concrete years ago when it started collapsing and it is in a very bad state now.

    Whats the best option to replace the wall?

    There is also a drain outside the wall on the roadside and the pipe from this drain runs a couple of feet under the ground diagonally across my back garden, would I be able to run/bury a new drain parallel with the new wall in the foundation?

    Also the ESB pole that supplies my house is just outside this wall and runs underneath the wall and into my meter box.


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  • #2
    BryanF
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    Check what is stated on your planning submission. Your eng will sketch a retaining wall cross section for your builder, this could be faced with stone (reinstating existing) to comply with planning.


  • #3
    murph226
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    BryanF wrote: »
    Check what is stated on your planning submission. Your eng will sketch a retaining wall cross section for your builder, this could be faced with stone (reinstating existing) to comply with planning.

    Sorry Bryan this isn't a new build, I am starting just replacing a collapsing boundary wall, will I need to apply for planning for this?

    I haven't contacted any engineer or builders yet, I would just like to know what my options are.


  • #4
    fepper
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    Cant you knock all the old wall,dig the same foundation again and fill with concrete and build a block wall,plastered,and the same capping as previous wall,you'd hardly notice the difference in a few years,can't you put a few pipes into foundation before pouring concrete to continue drain and esb connection


  • #5
    Lumen
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    murph226 wrote: »
    Whats the best option to replace the wall?
    Depends on what sort of "best".

    It's probably not dry stone if it's a 3ft retaining wall, regardless of the modern repointing work you can tell by the batter (slope). If the face is vertical then it's mortared, if it has a distinct slope it's more likely to be dry.

    A mason with skill in lime will be able to produce a beautiful result using the original stone if the cement repointing can be chipped off, but it's going to cost.

    But then so will stone facing a block wall.

    I have almost exactly this situation, same drop but a bit longer (100ft), except the wall is in reasonable condition. Usually these walls are degraded by the capping breaking down and water getting into the wall, creating cracks for ivy and other roots to widen. I need to pull my finger out in the next couple of years and get it sorted.


  • #6
    murph226
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    fepper wrote: »
    Cant you knock all the old wall,dig the same foundation again and fill with concrete and build a block wall,plastered,and the same capping as previous wall,you'd hardly notice the difference in a few years,can't you put a few pipes into foundation before pouring concrete to continue drain and esb connection

    As it is beside the road and lower than it also I have my doubts about a block wall, I would have though something more substantial like shuttered concrete up as far as the road at the very least.


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  • #7
    murph226
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    Lumen wrote: »
    Depends on what sort of "best".

    It's probably not dry stone if it's a 3ft retaining wall, regardless of the modern repointing work you can tell by the batter (slope). If the face is vertical then it's mortared, if it has a distinct slope it's more likely to be dry.

    A mason with skill in lime will be able to produce a beautiful result using the original stone if the cement repointing can be chipped off, but it's going to cost.

    But then so will stone facing a block wall.

    I have almost exactly this situation, same drop but a bit longer (100ft), except the wall is in reasonable condition. Usually these walls are degraded by the capping breaking down and water getting into the wall, creating cracks for ivy and other roots to widen. I need to pull my finger out in the next couple of years and get it sorted.

    I will be home Thursday and I will take some good photos so you will be able to see what I am talking about,

    Some of the older parts of the wall that haven't been pointed seem to have a slight slope alright.


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