Fancies For Today III

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Cohen Quiet Kite wrote: »

..Alt pick in the primary race is PowerDown @7 4pl (W/O too @4.5 for regular places).Add in two lads from the Golf. Zalzar@4 4pl in the previous and 14:20 Valentino Sunrise@3.5 4pl all equating to a 'max place array' of 5 selections to form an e/w fourfolds.

No single, but the alternative - for the acca arrays proved useful across the 4/5/6-folds (e/w) Some tennis markets in the mix also.

zimmermania

Two years off the track but well fancied to win the 4 40 at Bangor is ACT OF SUPREMACY.

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Day 6/7 of the opposition, went for an alternative pair using the useful W/O market, with an additional shorty in 15:15.
FB W/O in 16:55, and an alt by the way of Twister may also be useful in the 19:00 if Sky can tap back into that 4.0 price.

The others are all from the Novelty markets. e.g.
i) Dublin will surely win (6-10pt range, would be ideal, but this is the closest), previously went with Draw (inc HC+6).
ii) The Mercury Prize is due up in a few weeks, this early priced novelty @11 suits this event very well.
ii) Again Swedish election (seats) in 11 days is favourable, really at anything @2.1+ prices (was 2.5 other day).



Also a string of e/w accas availing of offsets and ExPlaced events.

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Nice price via sky for FB drifted out @9, but with Twister short from 4 into evens, a nice enough opposing double.



Still a bit of hope left in the 4fold from 6, with max PTE line @498.

mailburner

huge drift on terri rules in the first at brighton (2.0) 4/1 from around 2s

taking it regardless and a bigger bet on three places at 4/5

edit, got 9/2+5/6

mailburner

mailburner wrote: »

huge drift on terri rules in the first at brighton (2.0) 4/1 from around 2s

taking it regardless and a bigger bet on three places at 4/5

edit, got 9/2+5/6

absolute dung

mailburner

Came close to backing kingstreet lady last nite at 4/1....now 16s and 4s for a place
8.20ncs

Feck it I can't resist

4th feck ran well tho

mailburner

7.15 golden iris (in my tracker same as yesterdays) 12/1 4places 1/4 odds 365

draw isn't great and this was 7s last night

backed it to place at 3/1 also

2nd

munster87

Alpine Pass 5:40 Gowran in the tracker after nice finish in Killarney recently over a mile. Price has tumbled this morning, currently around 6/1

mailburner

2.05 lonchamp agrotera 3/1 skybet

going to ignore last run which was too bad to be true imo

awful impressive at ascot coming from nearly last 3 out to win going away and would probably be around 6/4 for this if coming straight from ascot
2nd beaten a neck

razorhead

Baddesley Prince is fancied in the 5.20 Southwell today

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munster87 wrote: »

Alpine Pass 5:40 Gowran in the tracker after nice finish in Killarney recently over a mile. Price has tumbled this morning, currently around 6/1

NR, another tumbler is Master Sunrise but runs in 30 seconds.

zimmermania

Those who like a bit of a plot might want to put a little ew on BLUEBELLS FOR LOVE 7 .40 Gowran.

Three quiet runs on soft ground means a very modest mark and i put a few quid ew on at 125/1 and 100/1 and i fully expect it to outrun its price.

Outlaw Pete

Like Silver Crescent in the 8.55 @ Wolverhamption.

Short enough currently at 6/4 on BF but has decent Class 5 C&D form (now dropped to a class 6) which is a far sight better than the 2nd fav's form.

That horse could improve of course, as they ran green on debut, but I think it tends to be overephaized how much Gosden horses might improve.

mailburner

8.45 petite fleur 25/1 ew
9/1 for a place taken also bet365

price looks big to me

last

pearcider

Surely Richard kingscote is on for a “dirty double” today. 3.35 Major pusey 5-1 4.10 mickey 4-1

Outlaw Pete

Like Finoah e/w in the 1:30 @ Ascot (6/1).

His 2nd in a Class 2 at Chester gives him a decent chance here.

zimmermania

Emmaus has his ground and can beat the fav in the 2 25 Haydock.
Cape Baron has a chance for the same stable in the 2 45 Ascot .

mailburner

3.20 existential 6/1
4.15 sir dancealot 10/1
4.30 rebel streak 5/1
5.35 margub 7/2
ew singles/trebles/ew accum


small bets on sir dancealot w/o harry at 6/1
sir richard kimble 25/1 3.55asc

Sh1te

zimmermania

zimmermania wrote: »

Emmaus has his ground and can beat the fav in the 2 25 Haydock.
Cape Baron has a chance for the same stable in the 2 45 Ascot .

Got word that Spanish City is fancied in the 2 45,am on Cape Byron but must now back Spanish City ew.

bassy

5.10 naughty Molly 4/1 wexford.
Have been watching and betting on this horse a few times and yet to win I feel today it should go very close,but I'm doing her for the win.

zimmermania

Our pride and joy PRINCE ELZAAM goes in the 2 oc at Catt tomorrow in a race that might not take a lot of winning.This race is a lot easier than his last run in a big field at york,which was probably better than it first appeared.

Beaten about 7 lengths in what was probably the richest 2 year old run in the UK this year was a reasonable enough run in an extremely competitive race.

Tomorrow's race looks to be between Beechwood Izzy,Royal Destiny and PRINCE ELZAAM. The Prince has to give 12lbs to most of the field and there is always the possibility that we come up against a big improver.

However Prince is fit and well and trying his best,he is game and uncomplicated and i believe he will win.His price is plenty short tonight but i think 9/4 -5/2 will become available (price could go a good bit higher if money comes for the Fahey filly,Royal Destiny) and i will be having a decent bet.

bassy

zimmermania wrote: »

Our pride and joy PRINCE ELZAAM goes in the 2 oc at Catt tomorrow in a race that might not take a lot of winning.This race is a lot easier than his last run in a big field at york,which was probably better than it first appeared.

Beaten about 7 lengths in what was probably the richest 2 year old run in the UK this year was a reasonable enough run in an extremely competitive race.

Tomorrow's race looks to be between Beechwood Izzy,Royal Destiny and PRINCE ELZAAM. The Prince has to give 12lbs to most of the field and there is always the possibility that we come up against a big improver.

However Prince is fit and well and trying his best,he is game and uncomplicated and i believe he will win.His price is plenty short tonight but i think 9/4 -5/2 will become available (price could go a good bit higher if money comes for the Fahey filly,Royal Destiny) and i will be having a decent bet.

To short a price currently for me Zimmer he's 5/4 on paddy.
Be nice if he was 9/2 tomorrow but can't see it.
Best of luck with the Prince.

zimmermania

Powers and Boyles money back if 2nd to the fav in Catterick and as Prince Elzaam is joint fav this offer may be useful.

oppiuy

I saw this was running today and popped my head in here to see if there was confidence. Thanks for the preview

bassy

5.15 sempo 9/2 listowel got word for this one.

zimmermania

Our small syndicate,Yorkthoroughbredracing are still enjoying the very easy win of PRINCE ELZAAM today,i could not believe how well he travelled before going to the front and winning eased right down.There was plenty of 5/2 and a little 11/4 available most of the day before the money really came forcing the price down to 5/4.

He will probably go up 6 or 7 lbs to 89 or 90 so a class 4 auction race could be on the cards before he goes to the sales.

Todays win will not harm the price and its interesting that his time was only 1 second slower than the winner of the 3 year old and up handicap at 4,40.

We may get two next year at the breeze up sales if we get a good price for the Prince,a great day for us that we will not forget and a bit of a touch as well.

mailburner

8.45 squire 5/1 ew (4places bfred)
place 5/4 (3pl) bigger bet

can't see this out of the frame and think today could
be the day for this one

was 7s last night also

edit, I don't think this was trying to win last time out either.

2nd short head ffs

zimmermania

Dougan at 9/1 might be worth a few quid ew in the 4 15 at Doncaster,Dougan has been running well and Poppy Bridgwater,claiming 7 lbs might be just whats needed to get Dougan home in this lady riders handicap.She is riding very well for the last few weeks with a better than 50% strike rate.
The horse is available at 10s in places but PP go 5 places and that will do me.

mailburner

oeil de tigre in same race at 25s 5 places with same which is in my tracker but after that run last time out :eek: (has hung badly right in 4/8 races this season)
risks attached and jockey not much good but price is still big if it runs in a straight line so small ew for me and it usually drifts on the day so expecting that price tomorrow

mailburner

I like plutonian in the 4.40 (worried about banditry though) never runs a bad race

4/1 ew 1/4 bet365
bigger bet on three places 11/10 (lads)

zimmermania

zimmermania wrote: »

Dougan at 9/1 might be worth a few quid ew in the 4 15 at Doncaster,Dougan has been running well and Poppy Bridgwater,claiming 7 lbs might be just whats needed to get Dougan home in this lady riders handicap.She is riding very well for the last few weeks with a better than 50% strike rate.
The horse is available at 10s in places but PP go 5 places and that will do me.

This is a good example of siding with the value wherever we find it.

Dougan finished 5th and i got paid.

zimmermania

Dancing Star ran well when moved up to 7 furlongs last time and has a chance in the group 3 at 1.50 Doncaster.
Older horses do not normally win this race for fillies and mares but Dancing Star might be good enough today.

Anna Nerium could be best of the 3 year olds and i will chance a rev forecast on the 2.

Walton Street ew in the 3 oc Don has a lot of weight but still has a very good chance with Buick on board,made the running for a stablemate last time and today could be the day.

Andrew Balding sends a big team with chances to Chester and Pass The Gin,a course winner could go well in the 2 35 following a close-up 6th in a hot nursery in Newmarket.

Balding runs Absolutely So in the 4 30 in a claiming handicap which is a huge drop in class.
The horse did not get close this year in 3 runs but they were probably the toughest 7 furlong handicaps run all season.A few quid ew might give a return.

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My good luck charm is back over on the other thread after a break for day 7/7 of opposing.
He's gone with an outsider (DBH but hsa drifted out to @23 now).
Instead went last night with Fastar@8.5 in this (15:55), but may be subject to R4.



In the (prefered) ExPlaces races ,went last night with Theglasgowwarrior@26 (still around this price). Also safer Alt in the form of Austrian school @10.
Another (4pl) wilcard Normandy Barriere@11 (17:15) to add to mixed e/w arrays, including two across in stick ball (golf).

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BOG (@34) for TGW

redzerdrog

Cohen Quiet Kite wrote: »

My good luck charm is back over on the other thread after a break for day 7/7 of opposing.
He's gone with an outsider (DBH but hsa drifted out to @23 now).
Instead went last night with Fastar@8.5 in this (15:55), but may be subject to R4.



In the (prefered) ExPlaces races ,went last night with Theglasgowwarrior@26 (still around this price). Also safer Alt in the form of Austrian school @10.
Another (4pl) wilcard Normandy Barriere@11 (17:15) to add to mixed e/w arrays, including two across in stick ball (golf).

Jesus you spout some nonsense, have you ever even posted a winner? Don't give me the ****e about the accumulator you nearly won either

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redzerdrog wrote: »

Jesus you spout some nonsense, have you ever even posted a winner? Don't give me the ****e about the accumulator you nearly won either

Yes, some of the few of bets here (over last few pages) all directly opposing the 'boy, over on the other thread, have mostly won or placed during the short 7 from 7 experiment.

I'd be concerned for the 100 or so following his recommendations, some nastly loosing streak, hope for all your sakes it improves. Will continue to opoose, (but no longer post here as this short experiment has now ended).

Btw, Large (e/w) accumulators don't need to win, just place for good returns.

e.g. This recent 5-fold(e/w) just a couple of days ago equates to x122.75 ROI - just for the place parts. Offered 50% cashout, but Wu leads in the golf so will hang on a bit longer!

redzerdrog

Cohen Quiet Kite wrote: »

Yes, some of the few of bets here (over last few pages) all directly opposing the 'boy, over on the other thread, have mostly won or placed during the short 7 from 7 experiment.

I'd be concerned for the 100 or so following his recommendations, some nastly loosing streak, hope for all your sakes it improves. Will continue to opoose, (but no longer post here as this short experiment has now ended).

Btw, Large (e/w) accumulators don't need to win, just place for good returns.

e.g. This recent 5-fold(e/w) just a couple of days ago equates to x122.75 ROI - just for the place parts. Offered 50% cashout, but Wu leads in the golf so will hang on a bit longer!

At least he is transparent with his bets and isn't spoofing about imaginary winning bets.

Have you actually ever put up a winning accum beforehand? Placed or outright win?

zimmermania

Does anyone,like me believe that La Ti Dar is way too short in the betting for the Leger at Doncaster tomorrow?The horse was impressive in beating Light of Joy in a listed race by a big margin 10 lengths but the horse he beat was last of 10 in its previous race.
Light of Joy won a class 4 handicap before that and while i respect very much trainer John Gosden i cannot accept the horse should be fav.

I believe KEW GARDENS is the best bet in the race and can reverse placings with Old Persian over the mile six.
Kew Gardens had a lot to do that day and won a group 1 win in France in his previous race.

I will have a decent bet on Kew Gardens and a small saver at 28/1 on Maid Up who was supplemented for this and may run better than her price suggests.

zimmermania

Mustashry drops back in trip to a distance he has never tried before and if this were a mile race today i would be happier,however in the belief that Michael Stoute knows a hell of a lot more than i do about the horse i will back it at 10/3 PP 2.25 Don.

Dubawi Prince 5.55 Don is likely to to show more improvement than the others as he is lightly raced and ran well last time following a layoff.

zimmermania

Shailene 2 40 Chester has a great chance refused to go in the stalls last time sure to be better educated can win for an informal trainer at 4 to 1

mailburner

biggest bet in a while on lah ti dar at 13/5 (matchbook)

I'll be taking a break if my bad run continues

vandriver

zimmermania wrote: »

Does anyone,like me believe that La Ti Dar is way too short in the betting for the Leger at Doncaster tomorrow?The horse was impressive in beating Light of Joy in a listed race by a big margin 10 lengths but the horse he beat was last of 10 in its previous race.
Light of Joy won a class 4 handicap before that and while i respect very much trainer John Gosden i cannot accept the horse should be fav.

I believe KEW GARDENS is the best bet in the race and can reverse placings with Old Persian over the mile six.
Kew Gardens had a lot to do that day and won a group 1 win in France in his previous race.

I will have a decent bet on Kew Gardens and a small saver at 28/1 on Maid Up who was supplemented for this and may run better than her price suggests.

Boom

zimmermania

zimmermania wrote: »

Does anyone,like me believe that La Ti Dar is way too short in the betting for the Leger at Doncaster tomorrow?The horse was impressive in beating Light of Joy in a listed race by a big margin 10 lengths but the horse he beat was last of 10 in its previous race.
Light of Joy won a class 4 handicap before that and while i respect very much trainer John Gosden i cannot accept the horse should be fav.

I believe KEW GARDENS is the best bet in the race and can reverse placings with Old Persian over the mile six.
Kew Gardens had a lot to do that day and won a group 1 win in France in his previous race.

I will have a decent bet on Kew Gardens and a small saver at 28/1 on Maid Up who was supplemented for this and may run better than her price suggests.

KEW did it well and the sp was decent even though i topped up a little at 7/2 today.

zimmermania

The legendary Timmy Hyde sends STACEY SUE to Wor today to contest the bumper at 3 50.

Timmy still keeps his hand in and sells young horses all the time.It is a bit unusual for him to send one across the water who already has good form for a mickey mouse bumper worth very small money.

He could be selling the horse or it may be the case that he is trying give his grandson Harry Swan his first winner.Harry has only had a handful of rides and looked none too polished in the finish on board Stacey Sue last time.With Charlie Swan as his sire he is bred for the top and was on the winning team in a junior show jumping international.

Stacey Sue should win today and perhaps launch young Swan on a racing career.There are only 2 who could give him a race today,Represented who is useful and Berberu to a lesser extent and we might be witnessing the launch of a rider destined for the top.

zimmermania

zimmermania wrote: »

The legendary Timmy Hyde sends STACEY SUE to Wor today to contest the bumper at 3 50.

Timmy still keeps his hand in and sells young horses all the time.It is a bit unusual for him to send one across the water who already has good form for a mickey mouse bumper worth very small money.

He could be selling the horse or it may be the case that he is trying give his grandson Harry Swan his first winner.Harry has only had a handful of rides and looked none too polished in the finish on board Stacey Sue last time.With Charlie Swan as his sire he is bred for the top and was on the winning team in a junior show jumping international.

Stacey Sue should win today and perhaps launch young Swan on a racing career.There are only 2 who could give him a race today,Represented who is useful and Berberu to a lesser extent and we might be witnessing the launch of a rider destined for the top.

Won as expected and wont be surprised if he is aboard some fancied ones from now on.Not the finished article yet but Swan can only get better with experience.

Chancer3001

Well spotted.

Saw the post too late

zimmermania

UNCLE NORMAN has run 4 times and his sp was 16/1,66/1,100/1 and 28/1 last time out.

I put the horse in my tracker when it finished 5 and 1/4 lengths 8th behind Prince Elzaam when the Prince won his first race for us.The horse did not reappear for 70 days and had a new trainer,T D Easterby in a nursery at Carlisle where he finished 4th running on well having started very slowly.

He has run on well in his last 3 races doing his best work all too late.I know nothing about the horse except what i saw and read,i have no idea why he was off for 70 days nor why he moved from Tinkler to Easterby.

However i do believe he could be extremely well handicapped and there are some tenuous lines of form that support that view.Seven furlongs in a modest handicap (2.40 Redcar) may be long enough to make him competitive or he might want a bit further.

His last run was on heavy but he showed similar form on good ground.There is not enough evidence to have a real go at this fellow but i have had €25 ew at 11/1 and i might have a little more tomorrow.

zimmermania

DURATION can win the 8. 30 at Kempton,the Kingsclere racing club summer magazine gave this one a good mention when stating"DURATION who has taken the full duration to get the hang of things.He showed definite improvement when an unlucky 4th at Wolverhampton and hopefully when stepped up to 2 miles he can win beore very long."

He duly won over 2 miles and only gone up 3 lbs can win again at 7/2 -4/1 that is available tonight.

Chancer3001

Ryan Moore down to Kempton for jist one ride on the favourite in the 7 o clock. 2/1

Massam in the 1.50 Yarmouth should win too 8/11.

Long call in the 3.20 I'm not as confident on but gonna add him to a treble