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Prince Williams Seat

  • 22-11-2017 5:45pm
    #1
    drbeatz
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 40 ✭


    Hello Knowledgable Folk,

    I was out hiking the lat day between Glencullen and Glencree and wandered up Prince Williams Seat. It got me thinking where the name came from. I have searched all over Google (and the forms here) and could not find any answers.

    I did a search of the Irish newspaper archives and all I could find was one article from August 1st, 1938, it was a what seems to be a letter to the editor and it asks the same question, where did the name come from? A better way to find out would be if I knew the Irish name, but I can't find that either.

    The article I mentioned is attached.

    Any ideas?
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  • #2
    drbeatz
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 40 ✭drbeatz


    And with that, I have found all I need to know.

    https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=833731159971625&id=693816783963064


  • #3
    Alun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,499 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    And I was just going to say you should wait until Barry Dalby sees this post as he's sure to know!


  • #4
    emo72
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,341 ✭✭✭emo72


    great thread. love this type of thing. had to read the article 3 or 4 times to figure out what was going on. naming the wrong hill prince williams seat. well that was confusing enough.


  • #5
    knucklehead6
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    Alun wrote: »
    And I was just going to say you should wait until Barry Dalby sees this post as he's sure to know!

    is he on here?


  • #6
    Alun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,499 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    knucklehead6 wrote: »
    is he on here?
    Yes, BarryD2, previously BarryD. Hasn't posted for a few months though. Probably too busy with his new maps.


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  • #7
    BarryD2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,732 ✭✭✭BarryD2


    emo72 wrote: »
    great thread. love this type of thing. had to read the article 3 or 4 times to figure out what was going on. naming the wrong hill prince williams seat. well that was confusing enough.

    Well, I guess that they borrowed the name William from nearby Fitzwilliam's Seat and stuck Prince in front of it for their own reasons.

    Triangulation isn't much practiced now as GPS gives quick fixes but if it were, stations like these would likely have numeric labels. Back in the 1830s the surveyors used names to identify the stations. If they didn't have a name, it seems they just made one up by borrowing it from a nearby feature that was named. I suspect this is how several hills have names taken from adjacent coums. So for example, the hill labeled as Coumfea in the Comeragh Mountains is clearly not Coumfea which is an adjacent corrie. It's nonsense to call a hill a coum or corrie. The names of these survey stations were more likely to make their way onto the published six inch maps and their derivations, the one inch, half inch and eventually the new 1:50,000.


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