Rear drum puller hire Galway?

Discodog

I have a rear drum that's stuck, probably rusted on - the wheel turns freely.
Unfortunately it doesn't have the two screw hole so I can't use the insert a bolt trick. I have spent hours applying penetrating spray & walloping it.

Does anyone know of a hire in Galway that might have a puller ?

JamBur

Discodog wrote: »

I have a rear drum that's stuck, probably rusted on - the wheel turns freely.
Unfortunately it doesn't have the two screw hole so I can't use the insert a bolt trick. I have spent hours applying penetrating spray & walloping it.

Does anyone know of a hire in Galway that might have a puller ?

https://youtu.be/y6jpNC6emOQ

Is there any movement at all? Watch the full video, shows how to solve if the brakes are holding it on

Discodog

JamBur wrote: »

https://youtu.be/y6jpNC6emOQ

Is there any movement at all? Watch the full video, shows how to solve if the brakes are holding it on

None & the brakes aren't holding it -it turns freely. It has to be rust.

Autochange

The drum turns but wont pull off. Am i right?
Have you released the handbrake cable from the mechanism? Renault Clios used have this problem where the shoes would over time wear a groove into the drums which would develop a lip not allowing the drum to slide off.

Discodog

Autochange wrote: »

The drum turns but wont pull off. Am i right?
Have you released the handbrake cable from the mechanism? Renault Clios used have this problem where the shoes would over time wear a groove into the drums which would develop a lip not allowing the drum to slide off.

I don't think that the handbrake is the problem as there is no give whatsoever even when I hammer the drum. I am hoping that the penetrating oil will soak in over night. The drum rotates very freely.

Bandito909

Discodog wrote: »

I don't think that the handbrake is the problem as there is no give whatsoever even when I hammer the drum. I am hoping that the penetrating oil will soak in over night. The drum rotates very freely.

You really gotta bate the drum with a 5lb lump hammer. A few taps of a little hammer won't do it. You've most likely a big lip on the inside of the drums. Good wallop with the drums and two big flat head screw drivers between the drum and backing plate and prise it away. I wouldn't be spraying penetrating oil in there, it will contaminate your shoes.

What car is it by the way?

Discodog

Bandito909 wrote: »

You really gotta bate the drum with a 5lb lump hammer. A few taps of a little hammer won't do it. You've most likely a big lip on the inside of the drums. Good wallop with the drums and two big flat head screw drivers between the drum and backing plate and prise it away. I wouldn't be spraying penetrating oil in there, it will contaminate your shoes.

What car is it by the way?

Oh it's been getting the big hammer

It's not the lip, there is literally no give. I can't prise between the backplate because it will bend it. I have put a cold chisel on the lip, from behind & hit it with the hammer. The drum is rusted to the hub around the wheel studs hence using penetrating oil. The shoes & cylinder are going to be replaced.

It's an antique 95 Starlet :pac:

martyc5674

Discodog wrote: »

None & the brakes aren't holding it -it turns freely. It has to be rust.

There is probably a lip in the drum from wear... and the shoes are stuck behind it. That vid is good info, only I'd be walloping with a bigger hammer and way more effort than that. If it's rusted to hub heat should it but you've to really cook it and belt the drum near the edges for leverage.
Marty.

martyc5674

Starlet has tapered rear bearings..
Undo the bearing and take the whole lot off hub and all. Sort it out then on the bench.
Marty.

Stoolbend

Is the drum and hub not a single unit on these?

As said above remove the bearing nut and the whole lot should slide off.

Bandito909

https://youtu.be/zcSO2Nuzqw8

Discodog

Bandito909 wrote: »

https://youtu.be/zcSO2Nuzqw8

That would be easy as it has securing screw holes.

Avns1s

As has been mentioned a few times, the drum and the hub is all the one on these.
Here is what the replacement looks like http://www.mister-auto.co.uk/en/brake-drum/toyota-starlet-ep8-np8-1-0-54hp_v15991_g123.html

No amount of hammering or pulling will get it off (without severe damage).

To remove it....
Remove the grease cover in the centre of the hub.
Remove the split pin.
Undo the nut in the Centre and remove the hub/drum.
If it has a lip, you may still have to use the hammer to get it over the brake shoes.

MAYOMICK

With the centre nut off it should slide out.If its still difficult put the wheel back on and use this for leverage.You might bring the shoes with you but it will come out.

Discodog

Thanks for the help. I was really beginning to wonder.

Autochange

Avns1s wrote: »

As has been mentioned a few times, the drum and the hub is all the one on these.
Here is what the replacement looks like http://www.mister-auto.co.uk/en/brake-drum/toyota-starlet-ep8-np8-1-0-54hp_v15991_g123.html

No amount of hammering or pulling will get it off (without severe damage).

To remove it....
Remove the grease cover in the centre of the hub.
Remove the split pin.
Undo the nut in the Centre and remove the hub/drum.
If it has a lip, you may still have to use the hammer to get it over the brake shoes.

Surely taking the hub nut was always the first step. Taken as a given

Discodog

Autochange wrote: »

Surely taking the hub nut was always the first step. Taken as a given

On reflection yes but my penance was kneeling in the rain for two hours :pac:

My other car doesn't have holding screws & the hub isn't part of the drum .

martyc5674

Discodog wrote: »

On reflection yes but my penance was kneeling in the rain for two hours :pac:

My other car doesn't have holding screws & the hub isn't part of the drum .

Easy think to overlook if you haven't seen them like that before.
Anyway... did u get it off??!

Discodog

martyc5674 wrote: »

Easy think to overlook if you haven't seen them like that before.
Anyway... did u get it off??!

Yes about 10 seconds after undoing the nut

JamBur

Discodog wrote: »

Yes about 10 seconds after undoing the nut

Everyone has a moment (or moments) like that. All you can do is laugh!

Autochange

Discodog wrote: »

On reflection yes but my penance was kneeling in the rain for two hours :pac:

My other car doesn't have holding screws & the hub isn't part of the drum .

Fair call!

Discodog

I don't sound like the guy who replaced cylinder head valves, in his driveway, in January