Riello Oil Burner help needed

leofitz

Hi, can't figure this out, my burner keeps locking out. I get it started by pressing the reset button on it a few times, I have a tigerloop fitted, eventually it starts, runs continuously until it heats all the radiators but the first time it cuts out after reaching the set temp it wont start again until I go back out and press the reset button again.
Depending how long it is since it turns off dictates how many times I've to press the button but not more than 2/3 times.
Any ideas?

esox28

replace the coil

leofitz

esox28 wrote: »

replace the coil

Thanks, I'll get one and try that👍

jimf

its more likely to be the capacitor than the coil

riello burners rarely have coil issues

also a possibility of a tight spot on fuel pump

leofitz

jimf wrote: »

its more likely to be the capacitor than the coil

riello burners rarely have coil issues

also a possibility of a tight spot on fuel pump

New fuel pump fitted 2 months ago, didn't need it as there was a leak in the pipe going from the tiger to the burner which was also replaced.

agusta

leofitz wrote: »

Hi, can't figure this out, my burner keeps locking out. I get it started by pressing the reset button on it a few times, I have a tigerloop fitted, eventually it starts, runs continuously until it heats all the radiators but the first time it cuts out after reaching the set temp it wont start again until I go back out and press the reset button again.
Depending how long it is since it turns off dictates how many times I've to press the button but not more than 2/3 times.
Any ideas?

When you press the reset button the first time does the burner motor run for 12 seconds and then lock out? , If so in my opinion its fuel starvation and not a burner problem.First thing id check is if the bypass screw is fitted in the return port of the pump

If the burner motor doesnt run after you press the reset button the first time,then capacitor as jimf said

jimf

agusta wrote: »

When you press the reset button the first time does the burner motor run for 12 seconds and then lock out? , If so in my opinion its fuel starvation and not a burner problem.First thing id check is if the bypass screw is fitted in the return port of the pump

If the burner motor doesnt run after you press the reset button the first time,then capacitor as jimf said

the burner runs long enough to get the system up to temp dec

so why do you think its fuel starvation ;)

agusta

jimf wrote: »

the burner runs long enough to get the system up to temp dec

so why do you think its fuel starvation ;)

Its just a hunch Jimf,
So i asked a question first in my above post and i answered "if so".
Why the hunch...,
New pump fitted, so 99 percent sure no hard spot on pump
Post 1 "depending out long it is since it turns off dictates how many times ive to press the reset button" Doesnt quite sound like the capacitor.
This sounds to me it needs the pump suction to pull the fuel into the pump
Im probally wrong but im willing to bet a fiver with you:D

jimf

you are probably right dec but but but but

as for the fiver I still haven't collected the last 3 bets I won from you

oh I just remembered I'm not talking to you for pinching my customers

Tom44

You cannot solve problems before firstly confirming it's turned up correctly.
Then problem solving is easy.
For the problem solvers

agusta

If i had known i wouldnt have been there at all.You done a great job the last time you were there in fairness.Dunno why you didnt leave your card with the customer.I will give you a nice boiler to do in a couple of weeks.Just dont wear your best service gear that day.So why do u think its the capacitor

agusta

Tom44 wrote: »

You cannot solve problems before firstly confirming it's turned up correctly.
Then problem solving is easy.
For the problem solvers

True

jimf

agusta wrote: »

If i had known i wouldnt have been there at all.You done a great job the last time you were there in fairness.Dunno why you didnt leave your card with the customer.I will give you a nice boiler to do in a couple of weeks.Just dont wear your best service gear that day.So why do u think its the capacitor

just a hunch :p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:

Tom44

jimf wrote: »

you are probably right dec but but but but

as for the fiver I still haven't collected the last 3 bets I won from you

oh I just remembered I'm not talking to you for pinching my customers

:eek:

jimf

Tom44 wrote: »

:eek:

that's like something scudo would post :o

Tom44

https://goo.gl/images/iZuJz2

leofitz

agusta wrote: »

When you press the reset button the first time does the burner motor run for 12 seconds and then lock out? , If so in my opinion its fuel starvation and not a burner problem.First thing id check is if the bypass screw is fitted in the return port of the pump

If the burner motor doesnt run after you press the reset button the first time,then capacitor as jimf said

That was what I was thinking but it doesn't just run for 12 sec, runs for ages, maybe a minute or more without firing up then shuts off, you can hear a slight click 5/10 seconds into the initial startup then nothing, fan just keeps running for ages. Second or third time it'll fire up but again that could be 30/40 seconds after I've pressed the button. I'll get the parts already suggested Monday and start from there.

jimf

that's a different story leo now its possible you have a faulty photocell

might be best to get somebody with all the parts in the van and give it a good service as well as setting it up properly with a flugas analyser

what area do you live maybe somebody on here can help

Wearb

jimf wrote: »

that's a different story leo now its possible you have a faulty photocell

might be best to get somebody with all the parts in the van and give it a good service as well as setting it up properly with a flugas analyser

what area do you live maybe somebody on here can help

My thoughts too Jim. Getting near going to whole hog towards continuous running.
:pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:

jimf

Wearb wrote: »

My thoughts too Jim. Getting near going to whole hog towards continuous running.
:pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:

theres a possibility agusta will have to go to the attic for a fiver :P:P:P

agusta

oh, wasnt i lucky jimf didnt bet

jimf

agusta wrote: »

oh, wasnt i lucky jimf didnt bet

see half the story was all we had

so I wouldn't take your fiver not that I would have got it anyway

Wearb

agusta wrote: »

oh, wasnt i lucky jimf didnt bet

He'd have had you in the county home without a thought. Narrow escape :eek:.




OP DON'T MIND US MESSING ABOUT. We are still here to answer your questions.

agusta

leofitz wrote: »

That was what I was thinking but it doesn't just run for 12 sec, runs for ages, maybe a minute or more without firing up then shuts off, you can hear a slight click 5/10 seconds into the initial startup then nothing, fan just keeps running for ages. Second or third time it'll fire up but again that could be 30/40 seconds after I've pressed the button. I'll get the parts already suggested Monday and start from there.

What make and model burner do you have?

If an riello rdb burner disconnect the photo cell from the control box.if the motor runs for 12 seconds and fires for 5 seconds, then goes to loclout. then the fault is the "photocell"
If a riello R40 burner, you will have to remove the photocell from the control box,Then the same as above

jimf

agusta wrote: »

What make and model burner do you have?

If an riello rdb burner disconnect the photo cell from the control box.if the motor runs for 12 seconds and fires for 5 seconds, then goes to loclout. then the fault is the "photocell"
If a riello R40 burner, you will have to remove the photocell from the control box,Then the same as above

who told you about the r40 I wonder :D:D

bduffy

Quick question as I had a similar problem recently......how much would a photocell cost? Had a look and some were €20 on eBay....but who knows what you'd get...

agusta

jimf wrote: »

who told you about the r40 I wonder :D:D

you did

jimf

bduffy wrote: »

Quick question as I had a similar problem recently......how much would a photocell cost? Had a look and some were €20 on eBay....but who knows what you'd get...

for the rdb pc about 25eu

r40 approx. 12 eu

jimf

agusta wrote: »

you did

and your way of thanking me for all my tips is to pinch my customers ;):P:P

any chance of banning agusta wearb

Wearb

jimf wrote: »

and your way of thanking me for all my tips is to pinch my customers ;):P:P

any chance of banning agusta wearb

My finger is poised on the ban button Jim. One false move and it will be Augusta44.

jimf

Wearb wrote: »

My finger is poised on the ban button Jim. One false move and it will be Augusta44.

love it :pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:

jimf

hes not the worst of em he has some good points

give me a few days and I will think of one

agusta

:eek:

Billy Bunting

leofitz wrote: »

Hi, can't figure this out, my burner keeps locking out. I get it started by pressing the reset button on it a few times, I have a tigerloop fitted, eventually it starts, runs continuously until it heats all the radiators but the first time it cuts out after reaching the set temp it wont start again until I go back out and press the reset button again.
Depending how long it is since it turns off dictates how many times I've to press the button but not more than 2/3 times.
Any ideas?

Get an engineer out, it's an easy fix for someone who knows what they are doing.

Wearb

Billy Bunting wrote: »

it's an easy fix for someone who knows what they are doing.

I wouldn’t rule out the limerick lads like that Billy

btw hi

cupan_tae

leofitz wrote: »

Hi, can't figure this out, my burner keeps locking out. I get it started by pressing the reset button on it a few times, I have a tigerloop fitted, eventually it starts, runs continuously until it heats all the radiators but the first time it cuts out after reaching the set temp it wont start again until I go back out and press the reset button again.
Depending how long it is since it turns off dictates how many times I've to press the button but not more than 2/3 times.
Any ideas?

Hi OP, I had the same symptoms with my own Riello burner around 2 months ago. A few days later I was finding pushing the reset button was having no effect at all i.e. Replacing the capacitor resolved. I understand it is possible to test a capacitor -I didn't have the means to test it so took a chance and swapped out the capacitor as first step and its been working fine since.

Hope this helps