ROG to coach the Crusaders

irishfan9

Reports that O'Gara is joining the Crusaders coaching team

https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/world-cup/ronan-ogara-to-be-poached-by-top-new-zealand-super-rugby-outfit-report-36306765.html

Felt this deserved it's own thread.

prawnsambo

Did Zebo leaving get its own thread?

Beechwoodspark

Fair play to him. He's building up some great experience and at some stage he's going to be back coaching here once all goes well.

Fantastic move for him if true. He's doing a fine apprenticeship before coming back to Ireland. Could spend a long time as Munster/Ireland coach if all this works out.

But the big step will be taking a head coach role I think. You'd wonder where that'll happen first.

Looking forward to the tearful documentary on French TV about this.

Stheno

Fair play to him

swiwi_

Who’s providing the translation? Tat tick Cork accent in NZ...

I suppose Ollie Jager could come in handy there.

Winters

He has a contract with Racing until 2019. Is he leaving it early or moving in 2019?

El_Duderino 09

I’m bloody delighted for him. If he’s good enough for crusaders, he’s good enough for a role at Munster now too. But he’s choosing to build up a big range of experience before coming home. He’ll be a bloody dangerous coach when/if he returns home.

Happy for him and Munster and Ireland, Presuming he will eventually return home and coach Munster and Ireland if all goes to plan

Oafley Jones

swiwi_ wrote: »

Who’s providing the translation? Tat tick Cork accent in NZ...

I suppose Ollie Jager could come in handy there.

First time ROG has been accused of having a Cork accent.

Good move for him.

swiwi_

Oafley Jones wrote: »

First time ROG has been accused of having a Cork accent.

Good move for him.

Whatever. “Munster” accent and difficult for kiwis to understand.

prawnsambo

Winters wrote: »

He has a contract with Racing until 2019. Is he leaving it early or moving in 2019?

Yep. If there's talk at this early stage of him leaving, you'd have to suspect that he's ending his contract with Racing early. Probably a season early.

Ronan O'Gara signs new contract


It's possible that the last year of that contract was optional. That's often the case with these.

irishbucsfan

swiwi_ wrote: »

Whatever. “Munster” accent and difficult for kiwis to understand.

This is glorious! This one goes out to all the people out there who have had to listen to that antipodean spiel about how different the kiwi and the aussie accent is!

Larbre34

irishbucsfan wrote: »

This is glorious! This one goes out to all the people out there who have had to listen to that antipodean spiel about how different the kiwi and the aussie accent is!

Bet et es.

razorblunt

I can't help but think this a "oh look new Munster coach, let's try and get home" tactic from ROG.

Don't get me wrong the Crusaders would be a brilliant option for him , but I think there's a game of poker going on here too.

What day are the Dolphins playing this weekend?

durkadurka

First thing I thought of was Miami dolphins.

Squidgy Black

razorblunt wrote: »

I can't help but think this a "oh look new Munster coach, let's try and get home" tactic from ROG.

Don't get me wrong the Crusaders would be a brilliant option for him , but I think there's a game of poker going on here too.

What day are the Dolphins playing this weekend?

Yes and no. Assistant head coach would be a step up from defence coach which is where he's at with Racing, so he's climbing the ladder and also getting to work in a completely different environment with one of the top teams in the southern hemisphere.

Nothing's confirmed though it's all rumours so it could indeed just be a negotiation tactic to make a move home.

vienne86

Well I hope this is true. If it is, he is building a great career for himself.

zetalambda

swiwi_ wrote: »

Whatever. “Munster” accent and difficult for kiwis to understand.

All Irish accents are similar to anyone outside UK and Ireland, sweetheart.

zetalambda

zetalambda wrote: »

All Irish accents are the same to anyone outside UK and Ireland, sweetheart.

Not true. Spent a good bit of time abroad including a two year stay in the east coast of the states. Had a lad there with a Dublin accent and another with a strong country accent and I have a thick D4 lilt. Yanks thought we all sounded very different and couldn't grasp how close we all lived to each other despite having very different accent.

I was the easiest to understand obv's, but I think that had a good bit to do with the amount of sense I talk also.

zetalambda

Deleted User wrote: »

Not true. Spent a good bit of time abroad including a two year stay in the east coast of the states. Had a lad there with a Dublin accent and another with a strong country accent and I have a thick D4 lilt. Yanks thought we all sounded very different and couldn't grasp how close we all lived to each other despite having very different accent.

I was the easiest to understand obv's, but I think that had a good bit to do with the amount of sense I talk also.

Yeah, you're right so I've edited that post accordingly. You're implying that it's a class thing? Still makes snowflakes post about Kiwis not able to understand Cork or Munster accent invalid. What i was getting at too is that the vast majority of people outside Ireland and UK would have no idea which part of the country an Irish accent is from.

Yeah_Right

My mate's dad came over to coach in Cork in the late 90s. I think it was at Dolphins. He said he needed someone to translate for him when some of the players spoke. And vice versa.

swiwi_

zetalambda wrote: »

All Irish accents are similar to anyone outside UK and Ireland, sweetheart.

I can pick Belfast vs Dublin vs elsewhere but picking what street ROG grew up in is a step too far...

Anyways, as someone who actually IS from Crusaders territory I’m quite open to this possibility. ROG can bring Conor Murray with him while he’s at it please.

Yeah_Right

swiwi_ wrote: »

I can pick Belfast vs Dublin vs elsewhere but picking what street ROG grew up in is a step too far...

Anyways, as someone who actually IS from Crusaders territory I’m quite open to this possibility. ROG can bring Conor Murray with him while he’s at it please.

Surely there's an uncapped Irish number 9 he could bring as a project player.

aloooof

Yeah_Right wrote: »

Surely there's an uncapped Irish number 9 he could bring as a project player.

Yer welcome to Duncan Williams.

zetalambda

zetalambda wrote: »

Yeah, you're right so I've edited that post accordingly. You're implying that it's a class thing? Still makes snowflakes post about Kiwis not able to understand Cork or Munster accent invalid. What i was getting at too is that the vast majority of people outside Ireland and UK would have no idea which part of the country an Irish accent is from.

No not a class thing at all. I was half joking with my post but you are right in that the yanks all thought we sounded Irish but that I had a very neutral accent where as the others were distinct in different ways. They couldn't tell that one was a 'city' Irish accent and one was a 'country' Irish accent just that they all sounded Irish but quite different and distinct within that.

DJIMI TRARORE

Seems a strange move,does ROG even know anything about Northern Irish soccer

CatFromHue

There's a big difference between Paris and Christchurch.

Some good differences and some bad differences but either way for a family man there's a lot of them.

irishman86

Deleted User wrote: »

Not true. Spent a good bit of time abroad including a two year stay in the east coast of the states. Had a lad there with a Dublin accent and another with a strong country accent and I have a thick D4 lilt. Yanks thought we all sounded very different and couldn't grasp how close we all lived to each other despite having very different accent.

I was the easiest to understand obv's, but I think that had a good bit to do with the amount of sense I talk also.

Have to agree with you buddy, D4 like you say and i find Galway easy to understand , but they dont sound similar and then throw in Cork, Kerry and the North :pac:

irishman86

CatFromHue wrote: »

There's a big difference between Paris and Christchurch.

Some good differences and some bad differences but either way for a family man there's a lot of them.

Hes hardly the first working professional with a family to move in such a situation
I see it as trying to get a taste of the life he missed due to being a professional player, more freedom of movement as a coach

CatFromHue

Oh yeah I know but as I said there's a big difference between the places.

I'm not sure if ChCh is rebuilt from the earthquakes yet and it's a lot more than a couple of hours away by plane too.

Zzippy

I was in Christchurch last year, the place was completely dead at night. Still a fair bit of rebuilding to do too. I guess with 4 kids he's hardly a night owl in Paris either so it won't make much difference.

Crusaders would probably beat a fair few national teams. I guess he'll be coaching above international standard... ba dum tish!

Zzippy

Zzippy wrote: »

I was in Christchurch last year, the place was completely dead at night. Still a fair bit of rebuilding to do too. I guess with 4 kids he's hardly a night owl in Paris either so it won't make much difference.

Crusaders would probably beat a fair few national teams. I guess he'll be coaching above international standard... ba dum tish!

Do you reckon Toulouse approached him?

prawnsambo

According to the Examiner, ROG is moving to NZ in the new year. That's a lot earlier than his contract with Racing 92 would indicate.

He's contracted until 2019 with them. Very unusual if true. The Examiner article indicates that it's source is 99% certain of it.

prawnsambo

Just thinking about it, this could also be happening with the blessing of Racing 92. A sort of sabbatical for him to broaden his experience and come back with new ideas and methods.

Erik Shin

prawnsambo wrote: »

Just thinking about it, this could also be happening with the blessing of Racing 92. A sort of sabbatical for him to broaden his experience and come back with new ideas and methods.

Not a chance I'd say

irishbucsfan

prawnsambo wrote: »

Just thinking about it, this could also be happening with the blessing of Racing 92. A sort of sabbatical for him to broaden his experience and come back with new ideas and methods.

Thought the rumour is its a 2 year deal down there.

More likely The Great Lord of All Out Halves suggested to ROG that if his intent is really to get abroad and broaden his horizons in order to build himself as a coach, then his ex-team-mate could do with an assistant.

prawnsambo

Erik Shin wrote: »

Not a chance I'd say

I wouldn't say that unequivocally. If he's moving in the new year, that leaves very little time for Racing to replace him...

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Thought the rumour is its a 2 year deal down there.

More likely The Great Lord of All Out Halves suggested to ROG that if his intent is really to get abroad and broaden his horizons in order to build himself as a coach, then his ex-team-mate could do with an assistant.

...unless of course that certain Lord of All Out Halves is taking over from him...

I'd say he'd just like to coach in a team that actually gives a sh1t

dregin

aloooof wrote: »

Yer welcome to Duncan Williams.

Surely Paul Marshall should be at the front of that queue?!

prawnsambo

Deleted User wrote: »

I'd say he'd just like to coach in a team that actually gives a sh1t

I've no doubt it's a good move for him. His contract situation is the bit that has me puzzled though. It's not as though Crusaders could come close to matching what Racing are payig him either.

Sinbad_NI

dregin wrote:

Surely Paul Marshall should be at the front of that queue?!

Capped

dregin

Sinbad_NI wrote: »

Capped

Ouch.

irishfan9

BREAKING: Ronan O'Gara will be released from his role at @racing92 at the end of December to take up an assistant coaching position with @crusadersrugby on January 1, 2018

That's a great move for ROG, hope it works out for him.

phog

Delighted for ROG, he's really doing well for himself.

sioda

But at least he spoke French they won't have a clue what he's saying down under😁.

Great news for him well deserved.

prawnsambo

sioda wrote: »

But at least he spoke French they won't have a clue what he's saying down under😁.

Great news for him well deserved.

Things like "Donner un rocket up his arse"?

Zzippy

sioda wrote: »

But at least he spoke French they won't have a clue what he's saying down under😁.

Great news for him well deserved.

ROG: "FFS, I wanted you to smash him, not tickle him"

Kiwi player: "But I did tackle him, coach"

irishbucsfan

I really really really hope ROG stays down there a couple of years and comes back with a Cork-Christchurch accent. A Christcork accent. It would be brilliant.

aloooof

And brings Oli Jager with him?