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Unpopular GAA opinion - MOD Note #426

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  • Registered Users Posts: 21,099 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    gammygils wrote: »
    There should be a fairer system for All-Ireland ticket allocation.
    They should be made available to those who support their County all season long & not to the "Croke Park only" brigade
    And most definitely not to neutrals who just want a day out!

    It's probably the fairest/most just system for a big event that I've ever come across. Most loyal supporters (those lucky enough to be in the schemes).are guaranteed tickets. Clubs are given responsibility to allocate to their members.

    It's not perfect, nothing is. There will be lots of corporate etc, demand will always be far greater than supply and someone's annoying American girlfriend will always manage to get one... but it's an excellent way to handle tickets.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,540 ✭✭✭Martina1991


    Nepotism is still alive and well and hurts many counties at underage level.

    A cousin of mine was on the county minor team a few years ago. Played up until the Connacht final.
    A club mate of his with county board connections came back from injury and took his spot on the team.

    My cousin lost all interest and just played soccer instead.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭MayoAreMagic


    Nepotism is still alive and well and hurts many counties at underage level.

    A cousin of mine was on the county minor team a few years ago. Played up until the Connacht final.
    A club mate of his with county board connections came back from injury and took his spot on the team.

    My cousin lost all interest and just played soccer instead.

    In fairness, knockbacks happen, right or wrong. His mistake was giving up.



    Another unpopular opinion.

    1. The GAA would be better served playing far more meaningful games outside croke park. The atmosphere is much better, and the towns could really do with the finances it would generate.

    2. Full time sweepers shoudnt get all stars, as there is no sweeper position on the team. Some might say it isn't fair, but then a sweeper taking the place of a player who genuinely excelled in the position is even less fair as far as I can see.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 4,140 Mod ✭✭✭✭bruschi


    Nepotism is still alive and well and hurts many counties at underage level.

    A cousin of mine was on the county minor team a few years ago. Played up until the Connacht final.
    A club mate of his with county board connections came back from injury and took his spot on the team.

    My cousin lost all interest and just played soccer instead.

    my unpopular opinion:

    that former GAA players or relations who go on about the way they were mistreated and end up giving up the game because of some spurious reason or more often alleged cronyism, when in fact in the majority of cases they just were never really that motivated or pushed to make it.

    A player who played county minor who gives up the game entirely because "a county board connected player took his spot" does not make any sense to me. And I never believe that county minor management have any influence put on them from county board connections to play players or that it has any bearing whatsoever on picking a team.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,540 ✭✭✭Martina1991


    bruschi wrote: »
    my unpopular opinion:

    that former GAA players or relations who go on about the way they were mistreated and end up giving up the game because of some spurious reason or more often alleged cronyism, when in fact in the majority of cases they just were never really that motivated or pushed to make it.

    A player who played county minor who gives up the game entirely because "a county board connected player took his spot" does not make any sense to me. And I never believe that county minor management have any influence put on them from county board connections to play players or that it has any bearing whatsoever on picking a team.

    In the example I gave it wasn't a question of lack of motivation.
    I know for a fact my cousin was completely committed.
    But a player who didn't train or play up until that point walks on to the team?

    If you had put a lot of time, dedication and work into something would you not be disheartened to have it taken away.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭jr86


    PARlance wrote: »
    and someone's annoying American girlfriend will always manage to get one...

    Haha game me a good laugh, so true :D

    Fully agree with the overall sentiments though


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,393 ✭✭✭Jaden


    TrueGael wrote: »
    Own up to your opinion you implied the thicko muck savages from the country wouldn't know what to do with the money, don't hide from what you were trying to say we thickos understand loud and clear

    Again, I have implied nothing. This grasping at straws to incite some imaginary idealogical divide between Rural and Urban is of no benefit to anyone.

    However, if it makes you feel better to either self-depreciate, or to engage in name calling to others, may I suggest the latter rather than the former? It is the lesser of two evils. Jackeen, West-Brit, Dirty-Dub - anything you like, fire away. We Danes are made of sterner stuff, we can handle it. Words are wind, my friend.

    But not for one moment will it change the fact that a superior footballing team won the 2011 All-Ireland Final. (It *is* an unpopular opinion thread, and I suspect this particular opinion will strike close to home with you).


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 4,140 Mod ✭✭✭✭bruschi


    In the example I gave it wasn't a question of lack of motivation.
    I know for a fact my cousin was completely committed.
    But a player who didn't train or play up until that point walks on to the team?

    If you had put a lot of time, dedication and work into something would you not be disheartened to have it taken away.

    of course you would be disheartened. I doubt you will find anyone anywhere in any sport where that hasnt happened.

    My point being that it is being blamed on a player getting the spot because of county board connections. I do not believe that.

    The fact that he gives up the sport entirely because of one set back. That doesnt show any motivation.

    And there are no details of the player who didnt train up to that point. He could have been injured, he could have been on school teams, he could have been on the team the year previous and was missing up to that point. There are various legitimate reasons as to why he came back. I also doubt he never trained at all and just walked onto the team.

    There is a huge difference between being disheartened and to just quitting on a sport altogether. Its as if it wouldnt happen in any other sport. Maybe he just likes soccer more.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,399 ✭✭✭✭ThunbergsAreGo



    Usually in Shiite seats :) Row B for the 2016 final :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,923 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    naughtb4 wrote: »
    Usually in Shiite seats :) Row B for the 2016 final :(

    Now that's a different conversation from a
    301 Row J Seat 1 resident 2017.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭liam7831


    I'm happy we didn't get rugby WC as the GAA would end up more free modern stadia thanks to the foolish taxpayer


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,399 ✭✭✭✭ThunbergsAreGo


    They should do something to reduce the amount of long range point scoring in hurling


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,075 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    liam7831 wrote: »
    I'm happy we didn't get rugby WC as the GAA would end up more free modern stadia thanks to the foolish taxpayer

    I think it's great Ireland did not get it.

    We already have too many under used grounds all round the country.

    Places like Killarney or Salthill barley get full once every two years, and in their current form they are adequate for what they are used for.

    No use upgrading them for a single event and then being left with the cost of maintenance.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭Bonniedog


    liam7831 wrote: »
    I'm happy we didn't get rugby WC as the GAA would end up more free modern stadia thanks to the foolish taxpayer


    Soccer is way more taxpayer funded than GAA. That shower in Tallaght got a free pitch that never has more than 2,000 in it, Delaney was on 400k a year; no-one watches it and national team is a joke that hopefully will exit before they get to make a show of the country on bigger stage :)


    8/11 Denmark is great bet by the way. Fill your boots! Win money and be spared seeing a lot of pot bellied leprechauns singing "You'll never beat the Irish" when 4 - 0 down in Moscow to Senegal :-)


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,252 ✭✭✭✭gammygils



    Thanks for that and I am a season ticket holder. But you're​ totally missing my point! :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Registered Users Posts: 15,075 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    In fairness, knockbacks happen, right or wrong. His mistake was giving up.



    Another unpopular opinion.

    1. The GAA would be better served playing far more meaningful games outside croke park. The atmosphere is much better, and the towns could really do with the finances it would generate.

    2. Full time sweepers shoudnt get all stars, as there is no sweeper position on the team. Some might say it isn't fair, but then a sweeper taking the place of a player who genuinely excelled in the position is even less fair as far as I can see.


    I think the thread title should be changed to "GAA opinion"

    Because playing more games outside CP must be the most popular opinion out there.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,854 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    Bonniedog wrote: »
    Soccer is way more taxpayer funded than GAA. That shower in Tallaght got a free pitch that never has more than 2,000 in it, Delaney was on 400k a year;<snip>
    and Dalymount! Another completely free stadium for soccer.
    Dublin City Council to seek €20m funding for Dalymount Park
    FAI will not contribute to redevelopment costs for proposed 10,000-seater stadium
    https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/national-league/dublin-city-council-to-seek-20m-funding-for-dalymount-park-1.2923540

    Is there one GAA stadium which was paid for totally or even near it by the taxpayer?
    Croker cost the GAA 177million, Cork is costing the GAA 50 million of the 80million overall cost, semple stadium got a grant of 1 million towards a stadium redevelopment project costing 20 million leaving the GAA covering 95% of the costs.

    Where are these free stadia that the GAA has got because I'm struggling to find a single solitary example?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭Bonniedog


    Its just the usual FAI hatred of the "gah" as in post I responded to. Especially in Dublin these characters cannot stand the fact the GAA is vastly more popular in terms of attendances. You seriously have not seen the hatred these people have for us.

    They even changed the name of Hill 16 to "Northern Terrace" on tickets when we were silly enough to allow their sorry asses in the door before they begged off the IRFU.


    As for other matters, well they make Tony Soprano look like Mother Teresa :-)


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,854 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    oh, on top of the 20 million of tax money being saught to redevelop the stadium fully from taxpayers funds (with not a cent from FAI), Dublin city council already gave Bohemians club 3.8 million in cash from the public purse for the existing stadium.

    which not only means they get a new shiny stadium for free but it saves the club, a private firm, from its debt problems.
    Bohemian FC cleared its multimillion-euro debt after selling Dalymount Park

    DUBLIN SOCCER CLUB Bohemian FC got rid of most of its debt and is now in a much stronger financial position after selling its famous stadium, Dalymount Park.

    New accounts just filed for the private firm behind the football club show that it almost broke even during its 2016 financial year.
    http://www.thejournal.ie/bohemians-dalymount-park-redevelop-3-3621608-Sep2017/


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭Bonniedog


    oh, on top of the 20 million of tax money being saught to redevelop the stadium (with not a cent from FAI), Dublin city council already gave Bohemians club 3.8 million in cash for the existing stadium.

    which not only means they get a new shiny stadium for free but it saves the club, a private firm, from its debt problems.


    http://www.thejournal.ie/bohemians-dalymount-park-redevelop-3-3621608-Sep2017/


    A complete farce. And when they play that crowd squatting Tallaght it needs hundred of cops to police 2,000 people. Which probably costs around 100,000. There are more Gardaí at the laughably named "Dublin derby" than there are at Croke Park for All Ireland finals, and none of them are armed and wearing riot gear. Joke of a thing.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 10,952 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stoner


    Bonniedog wrote:
    A complete farce. And when they play that crowd squatting Tallaght it needs hundred of cops to police 2,000 people. Which probably costs around 100,000. There are more Gardaí at the laughably named "Dublin derby" than there are at Croke Park for All Ireland finals, and none of them are armed and wearing riot gear. Joke of a thing.

    You need to post in the Popular GAA opinions thread!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,378 ✭✭✭Duffy the Vampire Slayer


    Liam McHale 100% deserved to be sent off in the 1996 replay and Mayo fans should have actually criticized him for needlessly getting involved so blatantly and potentially costing them the All Ireland instead of McEnaney.

    There is a lot of ****e spoken in the county about that final. Liam McHale ****ed up but he doesn't get any of the criticism.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,056 ✭✭✭zetecescort


    naughtb4 wrote: »
    They should do something to reduce the amount of long range point scoring in hurling

    would agree with you only on frees though, minor incidents in midfield and now in opposing half are punished with a score which can often be too much.

    long range score from play are fine imo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,723 ✭✭✭nice_guy80


    would agree with you only on frees though, minor incidents in midfield and now in opposing half are punished with a score which can often be too much.

    long range score from play are fine imo.

    slightly heavier ball?
    the new balls with the standarised core are travelling ridiculous distances


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,765 ✭✭✭jimmytwotimes 2013


    Cork's most recent All-ireland wins should be recorded as 2010 and 1973.

    The 1989 and 1990 wins should be recorded as the first wins by any combined team. A Cork/Kildare team in this case.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Registered Users Posts: 870 ✭✭✭FCIM


    I love hurling, hate Gaelic football.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭liam7831


    You shouldn't be allowed palm the ball into the net in football it's not handball


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