Rio marathon champ tests postive for EPO

walshb

average_runner wrote: »

True, but some ex pro's have made statements hoping that their kids don't go down the road of professional athletics, marathon talk has a good podcast on it.

I did here that....

More the wider/general community. Never heard it, and if I did I'd probably face palm! Ridiculous...

Tombo2001

walshb wrote: »

I did here that....

More the wider/general community. Never heard it, and if I did I'd probably face palm! Ridiculous...

Sports spectating/ Sports playing - two completely separate things.

I think the things that influence a parent on what sports their kids play are:

(I) Availability - what is on offer
(II) What are all the other kids in the class/ area doing (GAA has cleaned up in this regard).
(III) What is the kid naturally disposed to? Some kids dont like team sports; some kids dont like individual sports.
(IV) What sports did the parents themselves play
(V) Other factors - I note that a lot of people encourage their kids to do swimming because its a good life skill, and martial arts because its good for confidence.

Chivito550

Watched last week's episode of Ireland's Greatest Sporting Moment just there. Eamonn Dunphy saying Cycling is tarnished, and that he has a real fear of the same with Track and Field Athletics. Funny, I've never once heard him say anything about football, and he fawns over Barcelona and Spain, who have been linked to dodgey doctors who have worked with Lance Armstrong and other cyclists. You'd think somebody involved in football for so long would be a bit more clued in about doping in this sport. It's funny how journalists are so clueless about the topic when it comes to football.

So can you blame people here for bringing up other sports when a doping discussion comes up, when you've got total idiocy like the above, coming from household names in the "clean" sports, announcing this tripe to a national audience on the national broadcaster.

Alf Veedersane

Chivito550 wrote: »

Watched last week's episode of Ireland's Greatest Sporting Moment just there. Eamonn Dunphy saying Cycling is tarnished, and that he has a real fear of the same with Track and Field Athletics. Funny, I've never once heard him say anything about football, and he fawns over Barcelona and Spain, who have been linked to dodgey doctors who have worked with Lance Armstrong and other cyclists. You'd think somebody involved in football for so long would be a bit more clued in about doping in this sport. It's funny how journalists are so clueless about the topic when it comes to football.

So can you blame people here for bringing up other sports when a doping discussion comes up, when you've got total idiocy like the above, coming from household names in the "clean" sports, announcing this tripe to a national audience on the national broadcaster.

I understand that though. Not many people have heard of Fuentes or Operacion Puerto and it's easy to dismiss the linking of football to PEDs when that's one of the strongest links to there being something more than the odd player testing positive.

So I can see how people think of sports being clean. That allied to people not wanting to believe there are people on PEDs in sports like soccer

S.L.F.

Chivito550 wrote: »

Watched last week's episode of Ireland's Greatest Sporting Moment just there. Eamonn Dunphy saying Cycling is tarnished, and that he has a real fear of the same with Track and Field Athletics. Funny, I've never once heard him say anything about football, and he fawns over Barcelona and Spain, who have been linked to dodgey doctors who have worked with Lance Armstrong and other cyclists. You'd think somebody involved in football for so long would be a bit more clued in about doping in this sport. It's funny how journalists are so clueless about the topic when it comes to football.

So can you blame people here for bringing up other sports when a doping discussion comes up, when you've got total idiocy like the above, coming from household names in the "clean" sports, announcing this tripe to a national audience on the national broadcaster.

I would think there's more chance of them being linked to synthetic drugs than peds judging by the poor performances especially the Premier league

OOnegative

Had her ban doubled to eight years.

pc11

RuMan wrote: »

Also recovery between matches if u were going for La Liga , CL and domestic cup.

This is the answer. Drugs allow for rapid recovery from training, games and especially from injury. Sure, there is a potential boost in an actual game and it's notable how much faster and more athletic players are these days, but the main use for drugs is for recovery.

Soccer is awash with money and pressure from your team and has very lax attitudes to testing - the prefect recipe for a culture where some level of doping is normal.

Athletics suffers because it was the first sport to actually take doping seriously and actually ban top stars. Perversely this leads people to just assume athletics is much dirtier than soccer or tennis.

walshb

The doubling of the ban ends her career. Sends out a stern message.

walshb

And sports like tennis and soccer have quite a percentage of elites that are genuine clean great performers...same as athletics..

Far more greats doing it clean....

Doping in sport is ridiculously overstated and overrated...

Itziger

walshb wrote: »

And sports like tennis and soccer have quite a percentage of elites that are genuine clean great performers...same as athletics..

Far more greats doing it clean....

Doping in sport is ridiculously overstated and overrated...

Unfortunately, we don't know if that is true or not.

What we do know is that it is hard to catch the dopers if they're smart and that some sports (federations/anti-doping bodies) are not too keen to catch their stars.

It's always going to be impossible to put an exact number on what % of elites dope.

Naos

walshb wrote: »

And sports like tennis and soccer have quite a percentage of elites that are genuine clean great performers...same as athletics..

Far more greats doing it clean....

Doping in sport is ridiculously overstated and overrated...

You really think the likes of ****** are clean?

walshb

Naos wrote: »

You really think the likes of ****** are clean?

You really think he’s a cheat?

Is it his toned physique that has you all suspicious?

TFBubendorfer

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