Only a matter of time before we start to see a few Irish names up for harrassment?

NIMAN

OK so Ireland isn't blessed with a lot of big star names like a Weinstein or a Spacey, but I wonder if any of our well-known names from the last few decades have skeletons in their closets that may be waiting to come out?

AndyBoBandy

I hope Don Conroy is clean,

He was our Rolf Harris in terms of drawing sh1t, but I hope that’s where the similarities are drawn.

Duckworth_Luas

Ever notice how we never got to see inside the box?

ted1

It’s the ones who saw inside his box that I worry about

Loveinapril

Duckworth_Luas wrote: »

Ever notice how we never got to see inside the box?

We did! They were my favourite days!

AndyBoBandy

Loveinapril wrote: »

We did! They were my favourite days!

They were the special ‘secret’ days

Cookie_Monster

All of the clergy perhaps?

smoke, fire etc

Donald Trump

That Salpa wan kept sending me photos of herself in the nip and begging for a go of me lad.






(Or did I dream that?)

fryup

Charlie

Slydice

Did ya miss the newspapers this weekend or something?

Gate women put Colgan’s behaviour centre stage
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/gate-women-put-colgan-s-behaviour-centre-stage-1.3279488

Seven women allege abuse and harassment by theatre’s former longtime director

touts

It'll happen. Ireland has more than its fair share of powerful egotistical men who believe it was their god given right to assault women, angry feminists who suddenly recall they've been suffering from PTSD because a man looked at their breasts 25 years ago and tabloid journos who don't care there might be a difference as long as it sells papers. We're not escaping this sh1tstorm.

Loveinapril

Loveinapril wrote: »

We did! They were my favourite days!

Hehe. Rarely has a post brought me back like that.

NIMAN

Slydice wrote: »

Did ya miss the newspapers this weekend or something?

Gate women put Colgan’s behaviour centre stage
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/gate-women-put-colgan-s-behaviour-centre-stage-1.3279488

No I seen that, but I mean more household names.....;)

Slydice

NIMAN wrote: »

No I seen that, but I mean more household names.....;)

Oh yeah, went around talking about Weinstein and the ups and downs of producing films a lot did ya?

NIMAN

Slydice wrote: »

Oh yeah, went around talking about Weinstein and the ups and downs of producing films a lot did ya?

OK would it help if I go and edit out Weinstein and put in Rolf Harris, Jimmy Savile, Gary Glitter, Max Clifford.

You know what I mean, stop being awkward/a smart arse.

Biggest lickspittle on boardz

There is already credible evidence that there was a powerful paedophile ring being run in Dalkey. One of the victims, Cynthia Owen, has publicly named alleged abusers online. One would be a very noted member of the legal profession.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/gardai-revisit-house-of-horrors-paedophile-case-29226565.html#


Funnily enough, I tried starting multiple threads on this same topic when the Weinstein scandal broke and the mods repeatedly closed them down.

They didn't want to know. Hear no evil, see no evil...

WinnyThePoo

Biggest lickspittle on boardz wrote: »

There is already credible evidence that there was a powerful paedophile ring being run in Dalkey. One of the victims, Cynthia Owen, has publicly named alleged abusers online. One would be a very noted member of the legal profession.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/gardai-revisit-house-of-horrors-paedophile-case-29226565.html#


Funnily enough, I tried starting multiple threads on this same topic when the Weinstein scandal broke and the mods repeatedly closed them down.

They didn't want to know. Hear no evil, see no evil...

They probably don't want to get sued.

backspin.

I'm open to hearing of genuine abusers prosecuted and named. I don't want to see some one complaining about being asked out at work in a clumsy manner redefine that as abuse years later. And no rte interviews with someone who had their knee or shoulder touched by an ugly person a decade ago.

fryup

^^^^^^^^^^^^

yep, as usual in these cases there are those who are genuine and then they are those who jump on the bandwagon with exaggerated claims

NIMAN

backspin. wrote: »

I'm open to hearing of genuine abusers prosecuted and named. I don't want to see some one complaining about being asked out at work in a clumsy manner redefine that as abuse years later. And no rte interviews with someone who had their knee or shoulder touched by an ugly person a decade ago.

Couldnt agree more.

A lot of these accusers are belittling some of the real sufferers who have been raped etc by moaning about someone wolf whistling them once.

Hector Bellend

Hasnt there already been plenty of revelations regarding sexual abuse in Ireland.

fryup

Hector Bellend wrote: »

Hasnt there already been plenty of revelations regarding sexual abuse in Ireland.

amongst the catholic clergy yes, amongst celebrities no

The Rape of Lucretia

Listen, who hasnt harassed? Its now deemed unacceptable behaviour, but what was the norm in the past, being the norm, was no crime in that context. People i tge puplic eye are being caught out by moving goal posts. There is nothing wrong with cganging standards and mores, but the process has to be handled a little more rationally than it is at the moment in a trad media, and social media, fuelled outrage frenzy.

Duckworth_Luas

Loveinapril wrote: »

We did! They were my favourite days!

Stockholm Syndrome?

two wheels good

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Listen, who hasnt harassed? Its now deemed unacceptable behaviour, but what was the norm in the past, being the norm, was no crime in that context. People i tge puplic eye are being caught out by moving goal posts. There is nothing wrong with cganging standards and mores, but the process has to be handled a little more rationally than it is at the moment in a trad media, and social media, fuelled outrage frenzy.

Disgraceful comment! Speak for yourself, Rapey.
Groping, harrassment and intimidation was wrong 40 years ago too. And the people involved knew it.

backspin.

Someone on Marion Finucane show earlier talking about 'unwanted advances'. How do we define unwanted advances. Is a plain looking guy attempting to chat someone up an unwanted advance. Will that be harrassment now?

suicide_circus

backspin. wrote: »

Someone on Marion Finucane show earlier talking about 'unwanted advances'. How do we define unwanted advances. Is a plain looking guy attempting to chat someone up an unwanted advance. Will that be harrassment now?

There is an imbalance there certainly.

Berserker

I think it's only a matter of time. How seriously it is pursued will depend on the individual accused.

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

All of the clergy perhaps?

smoke, fire etc

All of them?

gramar

If it's 'he looked at me funny and told me I was gorgeous' kind of harassment then we'd all prefer not to know.

server down

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Listen, who hasnt harassed? Its now deemed unacceptable behaviour, but what was the norm in the past, being the norm, was no crime in that context. People i tge puplic eye are being caught out by moving goal posts. There is nothing wrong with cganging standards and mores, but the process has to be handled a little more rationally than it is at the moment in a trad media, and social media, fuelled outrage frenzy.

I did used to put my hand on a knee as a pass once or twice, and had that done to me. A simple movement of the hand away suffices. But that’s it.

It was never acceptable to grab ass at work despite what people now say.

However we definitely need to distinguish between minor annoyances and abuse.

Are Am Eye

Marion Finucan is an unwanted advance.

Berserker

gramar wrote: »

If it's 'he looked at me funny and told me I was gorgeous' kind of harassment then we'd all prefer not to know.

This kind of nonsense really devalues genuine complaints. A lady touched my arm last Friday after I carried her buggy down the stairs in Connolly Station. She was thanking me for helping her and she put her hand on my arm. Do I have a case for harassment?

Are Am Eye wrote: »

Marion Finucan is an unwanted advance.

And a very expensive one at that.

lazybones32

A guy i know is a producer of short films and once i laughingly asked him if casting couches were real- this was 2years ago. He replied in a manner i've never seen before or since but he muttered his answer before fading out mid-sentence. Must ask again.

The Rape of Lucretia

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Listen, who hasnt harassed? Its now deemed unacceptable behaviour, but what was the norm in the past, being the norm, was no crime in that context.

There's so much wrongheaded about this. I, for one, have never harrassed any woman, and it was never, ever "acceptable" to be a sleezebag. It just wasn't. I know one acquaintance who is a serial harrasser - what dullards might term "a lad" - but he is noteworthy precisely for that. Even 20 years ago his behaviour was not "acceptable", and none of us would set female friends up with him.

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

the process has to be handled a little more rationally than it is at the moment in a trad media, and social media, fuelled outrage frenzy.

On this you have a decent point, but not because goalposts have changed. Rather, the media which turned a blind eye to everything is now displaying rank hypocrisy from its newly shined high horse. Nothing surprising there at all.

NIMAN

NIMAN wrote: »

Couldnt agree more.

A lot of these accusers are belittling some of the real sufferers who have been raped etc by moaning about someone wolf whistling them once.

You've ruined Amanda Brunkers latest attempts to stay relevant

Foweva Awone

#MiseFreisin

Ficheall

Deleted User wrote: »

I know one acquaintance who is a serial harrasser - what dullards might term "a lad" - but he is noteworthy precisely for that.

Examples?

I saw some paper's survey results the other day - one of the main shock takeaways was that 6% didn't view photographing up a woman's skirt as sexual harassment, but there was less mention of the 10% who viewed asking a woman out for a drink as harassment, and the number for looking at a woman's breasts was higher... "Harassment" seems to be becoming a sort of all-encompassing scale, which is great for headlines, but not illumination... (I'm certainly not trying to excuse Colgan etc, btw. - he sounds like a right c*nt.)

Ted Plain

touts wrote: »

It'll happen. Ireland has more than its fair share of powerful egotistical men who believe it was their god given right to assault women, angry feminists who suddenly recall they've been suffering from PTSD because a man looked at their breasts 25 years ago and tabloid journos who don't care there might be a difference as long as it sells papers. We're not escaping this sh1tstorm.

Well put!

Biggest lickspittle on boardz wrote: »

There is already credible evidence that there was a powerful paedophile ring being run in Dalkey. One of the victims, Cynthia Owen, has publicly named alleged abusers online. One would be a very noted member of the legal profession.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/gardai-revisit-house-of-horrors-paedophile-case-29226565.html#


Funnily enough, I tried starting multiple threads on this same topic when the Weinstein scandal broke and the mods repeatedly closed them down.

They didn't want to know. Hear no evil, see no evil...

This is nothing short of sickening. Those brutes that are still alive should be dealt with with the full anger of the law.

Berserker

Deleted User wrote: »

There's so much wrongheaded about this. I, for one, have never harrassed any woman

Have you ever asked the same girl out on a date on more than one occasion? If so, some would say that you harassed her.

The Rape of Lucretia

Asking someone out, especially a woman is most certainly no longer acceptable behaviour - once is already too many.
Insulting and belittling a woman with the suggestion that she needs a man to accompany her out is nothing but extraordinary arrogance, not to mention the underlying yet clear implication that your aim is to evaluate her as a potential mate. Touching lips and even sex as part of a first date is still openly and shamelessly diacussed in this forum.
In the past activity was considered romantic. 'Persistence' when wooing was co sidered a virtue and endearing. Today it is consudered harassment and condemned. This barbaric anachronism must stop.

Cookie_Monster

Berserker wrote: »

All of them?

probably, or fraud, or theft or abuse, or something else.

The complete lack of morality required to work for such an organisation attracts a certain type of person.