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Tamper PIR

  • 04-11-2017 1:21pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,013 ✭✭✭


    Hi,

    I changed a faulty PIR this morning (Aritech ATS panel).

    Happy it’s wired up correctly but can’t clear the tamper alarm that activated when I removed old one?

    I’ve checked the pir wire connections and ensured it’s closed properly but tamper remains active?

    Any suggestions appreciated.

    Also it will prevent setting alarm at all as tamper active. I can’t even inhibit zone as tamper active. Anyway to bypass tamper?

    Thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,757 ✭✭✭Phil.x


    Peppa Cig wrote: »
    Hi,

    I changed a faulty PIR this morning (Aritech ATS panel).

    Happy it’s wired up correctly but can’t clear the tamper alarm that activated when I removed old one?

    I’ve checked the pir wire connections and ensured it’s closed properly but tamper remains active?

    Any suggestions appreciated.

    Also it will prevent setting alarm at all as tamper active. I can’t even inhibit zone as tamper active. Anyway to bypass tamper?

    Thanks
    Enter the unset code once or twice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,013 ✭✭✭Peppa Cig


    Phil.x wrote: »
    Peppa Cig wrote: »
    Hi,

    I changed a faulty PIR this morning (Aritech ATS panel).

    Happy it’s wired up correctly but can’t clear the tamper alarm that activated when I removed old one?

    I’ve checked the pir wire connections and ensured it’s closed properly but tamper remains active?

    Any suggestions appreciated.

    Also it will prevent setting alarm at all as tamper active. I can’t even inhibit zone as tamper active. Anyway to bypass tamper?

    Thanks
    Enter the unset code once or twice.

    Hi Phil. Thanks for reply. That’s does not solve. I know how to clear tamper from keypad. It’s just continues to say it’s still active.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,562 ✭✭✭kub


    What panel have you, as in what model?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,013 ✭✭✭Peppa Cig


    kub wrote: »
    What panel have you, as in what model?

    Hi. Aritech ATS2000

    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,562 ✭✭✭kub


    Peppa Cig wrote: »
    Hi. Aritech ATS2000

    Thanks

    Did you reinstate the resistors in the new beam?

    You should have a 4k7 resistor going across the NC and C terminals of the beam, a cable from the panel should be in with one leg of that resistor in one of the aforementioned terminals.
    The other leg of the first resistor should be joined with a leg of a second one and in the other terminal ( NC or C ).
    Then the second leg of the second resistor should be on its own in a T or tamper terminal with the other cable from the panel in the other T or tamper terminal.
    Just make sure the lid is on properly then


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,013 ✭✭✭Peppa Cig


    kub wrote: »
    Did you reinstate the resistors in the new beam?

    You should have a 4k7 resistor going across the NC and C terminals of the beam, a cable from the panel should be in with one leg of that resistor in one of the aforementioned terminals.
    The other leg of the first resistor should be joined with a leg of a second one and in the other terminal ( NC or C ).
    Then the second leg of the second resistor should be on its own in a T or tamper terminal with the other cable from the panel in the other T or tamper terminal.
    Just make sure the lid is on properly then

    Hi Kub. Thanks for that detailed reply - appreciated

    Bit beyond my technical knowledge, but I noted no 4k7 resistors in original beam wiring which I have attached?

    Is there a quick fix to bypass tamper at beam? I can then get a pro to sort in due course.

    Or if I rewire the original faulty beam it should bring me back to square 1 albeit with no open tamper, therefore allowing me to at least set the alarm?

    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,562 ✭✭✭kub


    Peppa Cig wrote: »
    Hi Kub. Thanks for that detailed reply - appreciated

    Bit beyond my technical knowledge, but I noted no 4k7 resistors in original beam wiring which I have attached?

    Is there a quick fix to bypass tamper at beam? I can then get a pro to sort in due course.

    Or if I rewire the original faulty beam it should bring me back to square 1 albeit with no open tamper, therefore allowing me to at least set the alarm?

    Thanks

    Ah hold up,has your new beam inbuilt resistors,? Just your old one did, hence the black strip above the green wiring terminals.
    The only hope we have now is that your new one has likewise, what is the make and model of the new one or can you put up a picture ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,013 ✭✭✭Peppa Cig


    Hi Kub,

    This is the new beam wired in showing active tamper despite wired as per faulty beam as per photo above.

    https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Technical/DataSheets/Honeywell_Security/TSDT8012_Instructions.pdf


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,562 ✭✭✭kub


    Peppa Cig wrote: »
    Hi Kub,

    This is the new beam wired in showing active tamper despite wired as per faulty beam as per photo above.

    https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Technical/DataSheets/Honeywell_Security/TSDT8012_Instructions.pdf

    Hi Peppa, sorry for the delay, only got a chance now to come on here.
    The bottom line here is the existing beam had inbuilt resistors, the new one does not.
    You will need 2 x 4k7 resistors to get your new beam talking to the panel, all you will get in its current configuration is a tamper condition.

    I wonder, it might be worth having a look, but some lads have a habit of leaving a few spare resistors at the bottom of control panels.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,013 ✭✭✭Peppa Cig


    Thanks Kub.

    I’ll look at that tomorrow evening.

    Appreciate your time - thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,013 ✭✭✭Peppa Cig


    @kub

    Sorted as per your great instructions

    Your a star!

    Cheers


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