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Never declared car off road - being charged huge amount backtax. Can I do anything?
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03-11-2017 2:24am#1Hi,
Earlier in the year I had to hastily leave the country to care for a sick relative in Aus.
I left in quite a hurry, and so never even thought to declare my car off the road. As such I have accumulated 7/8 months unpaid motor tax.
I canceled my insurance for this period, and have just gotten it reinstated, but I have just found out that I now need to pay 7/8 months back-tax + a 3 month penalty to get my motor tax back in date? I was under the impression I could take it to a garda station and have them sign a form, but that appears to no longer be the case...
Is there anything I can do here? I am kind of gutted that I am going to be ~400€ out of pocket for not ticking a box online a few months ago when my head wasnt in the right place ! It seems a tad unfair to be charged money for leaving a car parked!!
Can anyone offer any advice?
Thanks very much
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Sell it to a relative or good friend including transfer of ownership. End of back tax. Buy it back later.
That's it in a nutshell.
Search the Motors forum - lots of detail there.
I was hoping to avoid this, but thank you very much for your legitimate and helpful replyAdding 2 extra owners in the process, possibly devaluing the car more than the tax cost. Do it a few times and you've got an unsaleable lump.
She's already an unsaleable lump!
I just got off the phone with the tax office and it's sorted give my circumstances - dying relative and hasty exit of the country.Jaysus.
I know, hard to stomach these types of people isn't it? All we can do is be thankful that we don't have to live out the rest of our lives with an outlook as grim as this man ! His post honestly made me feel really thankful that the majority of people surrounding me in life are poles apart from this nonsensical, inane half-wit.
The worst we have to suffer is him occasionally giving his unwanted, uneducated opinion in threads like this - or I'd wager when he goes around canvassing pre-election (seems like the type).
He has to live with his bleak, sad, holier-than-thou attitude, and a puerile, witless voice inside of his head, for the rest of his life.
We get to stop hearing it right now.Yes you can dodge paying a legitimate tax and at the same time complain that the current legislation is unfair. Or you can take responsibility for your actions and pay.
Thankfully for you, it's a free society so the choice is yours.
Your reply is not in the least bit helpful, Donal. It's extremely rude, condescending and doesn't actually answer my question at all. Are you a politician, a troll, or both?I'm not sure a tax is legitimate if you don't use a car, because you leave a country (and your car) to care for a dying relative - but I suppose you don't care about the facts since you're only here to troll.
You would do better in life to change your attitude, because you'll blink and very quickly find you've wasted all your days if you continue on with this dreary outlook.
Thanks everyone else for the help, I've called the motor tax office and explained my situation. They let me off the bill because they have a bit of compassion for somebody who left the country for a dying relative - unlike the deluded poster above . 0 -
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there was a whiff of 'methinks the lady doth protesteth too much' off this post.I was hoping to avoid this, but thank you very much for your legitimate and helpful reply
She's already an unsaleable lump! I just got off the phone with the tax office and it's sorted give my circumstances - dying relative and hasty exit of the country.
I know, hard to stomach these types of people isn't it? All we can do is be thankful that we don't have to live out the rest of our lives with an outlook as grim as this man ! His post honestly made me feel really thankful that the majority of people surrounding me in life are poles apart from this nonsensical, inane half-wit.
The worst we have to suffer is him occasionally giving his unwanted, uneducated opinion in threads like this - or I'd wager when he goes around canvassing pre-election (seems like the type).
He has to live with his bleak, sad, holier-than-thou attitude, and a puerile, witless voice inside of his head, for the rest of his life.
We get to stop hearing it right now.
Your reply is not in the least bit helpful, Donal. It's extremely rude, condescending and doesn't actually answer my question at all. Are you a politician, a troll, or both?I'm not sure a tax is legitimate if you don't use a car, because you leave a country (and your car) to care for a dying relative - but I suppose you don't care about the facts since you're only here to troll.
You would do better in life to change your attitude, because you'll blink and very quickly find you've wasted all your days if you continue on with this dreary outlook.
Thanks everyone else for the help, I've called the motor tax office and explained my situation. They let me off the bill because they have a bit of compassion for somebody who left the country for a dying relative - unlike the deluded poster above .0 -
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Your reply is not in the least bit helpful, Donal. It's extremely rude, condescending and doesn't actually answer my question at all. Are you a politician, a troll, or both?
You would do better in life to change your attitude, because you'll blink and very quickly find you've wasted all your days if you continue on with this dreary outlook.
The irony is very strong here.0 -
Greybottle wrote: »Your reply is not in the least bit helpful, Donal. It's extremely rude, condescending and doesn't actually answer my question at all. Are you a politician, a troll, or both?
You would do better in life to change your attitude, because you'll blink and very quickly find you've wasted all your days if you continue on with this dreary outlook.
The irony is very strong here.
It’s not lost on me, glad I refrained from wasting my time defending my post.0 -
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Eh......
Next time I'm stopped by the Guards I'll tell them to forget the fine as it is not obligatory.
Surprised at that response from you CiniO, if I didn't know better I'd suggest that was a Freeman type post.
Well I meant that tax was not obligatory for OP, as his car was parked up.
AFAIK tax is required if vehicle is being used (driven or parked) in public place.
But if it was parked on private land, then there was no tax obligation.
I probably should have been more clear.0 -
Well I meant that tax was not obligatory for OP, as his car was parked up.
AFAIK tax is required if vehicle is being used (driven or parked) in public place.
But if it was parked on private land, then there was no tax obligation.
I probably should have been more clear.
I see what you mean and I'm no fan of our Motor Tax system.
But my understanding of the current system is that if you don't declare off road you must pay the arrears if you want to tax it in your name again.
The OP appears to have short circuited the system and achieved what we thought was impossible.
As I said before we'll probably never find out how.0 -
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He is right...if a car is not in use there is no obligation to tax it , and thus no offence committted.
Well I meant that tax was not obligatory for OP, as his car was parked up.
AFAIK tax is required if vehicle is being used (driven or parked) in public place.
But if it was parked on private land, then there was no tax obligation.
I probably should have been more clear.
That is no longer the case, it all changed in 2013 with the Non-Use of Motor Vehicles Act 2013 which amended the Finance (No.2) Act 1992 (which in turn put restrictions on the application of the Finance (Excise Duties) (Vehicles) Act 1952).
Basically, prior to the 2013 Act you required motor tax when a vehicle was:-
(a) registered in the state, and
(b) not exclusively used/kept on land other than a public place.
Since 2013 the law requires you to have motor tax when a vehicle is:-
(a) registered in the state, and
(b) not declared off the road.
So even if you keep a vehicle exclusively on private land unless you declare it off the road you must tax it by law as the qualifying criteria is now simply that it is registered and not declared off the road rather than registered and used in a public place.
I can dig out all the appropriate legislation if you wish (I just don't have time right now).0 -
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