VW eGolf boards.ie event

unkel

Paddy Comyn, formerly a respected Irish motoring journalist and now head of Group Communications for Volkswagen Group Ireland, has asked me to get a few people from boards together for an informal session with the VAG team, to check out and drive the car and have a chat. The day is tentatively set for Wednesday 29th November. No time has been set yet

Now if you are just interested in test driving an eGolf and a chat with a sales manager, please contact your local VW dealer and don't apply for this. This is for an informal chat with VAG Ireland and the direction they are going with electric cars in general and the eGolf in particular

If you are interested in this social media event, please PM me with your name, phone number and email and any time(s) on above day that you are not available, if any

I'll use my discretion to reply to people to invite them based on available numbers, etc. Please only PM me if you agree to all these terms and are available on the 29th November

unkel

Paddy was one of the first motoring journos in Ireland to test drive and review an EV. Read his article in the Irish Times (from over 7.5 years ago!) about the Mitsubishi iMiev here:

Linky

Shefwedfan

unkel wrote: »

Paddy Comyn, formerly a respected Irish motoring journalist and now head of Group Communications for Volkswagen Group Ireland, has asked me to get a few people from boards together for an informal session with the VAG team, to check out and drive the car and have a chat. The day is tentatively set for Wednesday 29th November. No time has been set yet

Now if you are just interested in test driving an eGolf and a chat with a sales manager, please contact your local VW dealer and don't apply for this. This is for an informal chat with VAG Ireland and the direction they are going with electric cars in general and the eGolf in particular

If you are interested in this social media event, please PM me with your name, phone number and email and any time(s) on above day that you are not available, if any

I'll use my discretion to reply to people to invite them based on available numbers, etc. Please only PM me if you agree to all these terms and are available on the 29th November

Im a little confused, can I test drive the eGolf or not?

If I do this will they give me a free service?

Bigus

If all goes to plan I'll be riding an ebike in the Canaries on the 29th November ! ,otherwise I would've liked to be part of this .
If the day moves count me in .

unkel

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Im a little confused, can I test drive the eGolf or not?

I'd say so, depending on the numbers, etc.

But if your main aim is to test drive the new eGolf, I'd suggest to ring your local dealer to schedule a test drive. If you want to take part in the event, PM me

billy few mates

unkel wrote: »

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Im a little confused, can I test drive the eGolf or not?

I'd say so, depending on the numbers, etc.

But if your main aim is to test drive the new eGolf, I'd suggest to ring your local dealer to schedule a test drive. If you want to take part in the event, PM me

You've obviously never called your local VW dealer to try and schedule a test drive in an eGolf (or a GTE)..?
VW Ireland have no interest in selling either of these cars, when I tried to contact them to arrange to drive one they didn't seem interested. Calls and emails went unanswered, they wanted me to make an appointment for two weeks time for the GTE and January for the eGolf (as they don't have any). In the end I went up to Belfast to drive one. One quick phone call and they said give us a day to get a couple of cars positioned over from another branch and get them fully charged etc. They couldn't have been more helpful or knowledgeable, I've asked them and a couple of UK dealers to source me something suitable for import if they get any nearly new trade ins, I've given up all hope of buying a new one here.
I'm away on business that day but otherwise I'd loved to have gone.

unkel

For the record, I have no affiliation with VAG whatsoever. I'm not getting anything out of this event. Just doing it for the interaction between our community and a VAG Ireland, a leader of the car industry

I'll make Paddy (who is registered on boards) aware of this thread. Perhaps he will comment

billy few mates wrote: »

You've obviously never called your local VW dealer to try and schedule a test drive in an eGolf (or a GTE)..?
VW Ireland have no interest in selling either of these cars, when I tried to contact them to arrange to drive one they didn't seem interested. Calls and emails went unanswered

That's obviously a serious issue that VAG Ireland should be made aware of.

paddy1976

Hi guys. Paddy here. We know we’ve been a little slow to the party but that’s why we are reaching out. EVs haven’t been a huge priority for us as you might have experienced but we intend that to change. We’d just like to arrange a few guys over for some driving, discussion, coffee and cake. eGolf won’t ever be huge numbers for us but I.D will be a different story. So there is a lot of work to do.

paddy1976

We would have 2 x eGolf on the day and the latest model Golf GTE

Soarer

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Mod Note: Let's not be unwelcoming and no is the answer

bp_me

paddy1976 wrote: »

Hi guys. Paddy here. We know we’ve been a little slow to the party but that’s why we are reaching out. EVs haven’t been a huge priority for us as you might have experienced but we intend that to change. We’d just like to arrange a few guys over for some driving, discussion, coffee and cake. eGolf won’t ever be huge numbers for us but I.D will be a different story. So there is a lot of work to do.

Hi Paddy,

Quick question... I have vague recollections of seeing suggestions that only a limited number(4?) of dealers in Ireland can service eGolf and the GTE range. Is this the case? And if so which dealers?

Shefwedfan

bp_me wrote: »

Hi Paddy,

Quick question... I have vague recollections of seeing suggestions that only a limited number(4?) of dealers in Ireland can service eGolf and the GTE range. Is this the case? And if so which dealers?

VW Swords and VW Liffey Valley was recommendations I got

VW Swords hadn't a clue and tried to tell me my car was only worth 12k....

VW Liffey Valley a lot better.

VW Naas also serviced my car for person I bought it off.....

paddy1976

Our EV Dealers, who can sell eGolf are Frank Keane Liffey Valley and Blackwater in Cork. They can also sell GTE. And then there is Joe Duffy North Dublin, Pierse Motors, Sheehy Motor Naas, Connolly Volkswagen Sligo, Hogans Limerick and Wexford Volkswagen who can sell Golf and Passat GTE.

paddy1976

unkel wrote: »

Paddy was one of the first motoring journos in Ireland to test drive and review an EV. Read his article in the Irish Times (from over 7.5 years ago!) about the Mitsubishi iMiev here:

Linky

Yes, €38,000 and by 2011 there were supposed to be 2,000 sold per year!

paddy1976

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Im a little confused, can I test drive the eGolf or not?

If I do this will they give me a free service?

Yes and No

Shefwedfan

paddy1976 wrote: »

Yes and No

Cna we swap that to

No and Yes :P

I have stuck my name down.....

There is a guy on facebook in Limerick who has eGolf, similar to mine in white. He might be interested.

Bigus

Bigus wrote: »

If all goes to plan I'll be riding an ebike in the Canaries on the 29th November !

Make sure you try out the Bosch Ebike motors !

billy few mates

paddy1976 wrote: »

Hi guys. Paddy here. We know we’ve been a little slow to the party but that’s why we are reaching out. EVs haven’t been a huge priority for us as you might have experienced but we intend that to change. We’d just like to arrange a few guys over for some driving, discussion, coffee and cake. eGolf won’t ever be huge numbers for us but I.D will be a different story. So there is a lot of work to do.

We approached three different VW dealers when we looked, one of them was so off putting we didn’t even visit, the other two we did. While the people we met were nice and friendly in the way most salespeople are, they just didn’t seem interested in them. Rightly or wrong, the impression we got was that they were a lot more hassle to sell than a regular ICE VW which basically sell themselves. We had to make appointments so they could get the cars ready to drive, in one place we had to wait because there was some issue with the charger, the test drives were brief, the salespeople weren’t exactly convincing when it came to technical questions about the cars or questions about grants or incentives. They didn’t really try to sell us the cars, it was a case of ‘if you want one we’ll get you one, and there was absolutely no budging on the price, it was exactly the list price.
By comparison the experience in the North was much more positive, the salesman was really enthusiastic about the cars, he had them fully charged when we got there, he was quite keen that we take it for a decent spin to see them in all their glory and he knew everything about the cars and EVs in general. He knew the models he showed us weren’t going to be suitable for import because they were too new but it didn’t put him off promoting the cars and the technology. He took our details and told us he would contact us if a suitable one came up on their dealer network.

This Boards day out is a great incentive, I wish I could make it but what VW Ireland need to do is get a stock in, appoint dedicated sales people who really believe in the product with the enthusiasm to try and persuade people to buy them. A lot of people (myself included) would be hesitant to switch to EVs, the sales people we met down here did nothing to allay my concerns, it was only from reading threads on here I was able to satisfy myself that I could actually live with an EV. You also need to market and advertise them to creat a bit of awareness, I didn’t even know they existed until I saw one in the Netherlands (I’ve since seen dozens there). A lot of people will buy a brand new VW Golf diesel next year when they could just as easily be buying a more suitable EGolf but they just don’t know it, VW need to do something to make people aware that these things aren’t just quirky little cars, they’re a serious option. My Mrs drives 2km each way to work per day in a diesel car, when we go looking for a replacement car, salespeople should be doing their utmost to point out how crazy that is when she could be doing it in an EV, if we went to any VW dealer to buy a car you can be sure it would be a lot easier to drive away in another diesel instead of being pointed in the direction of a more suitable electric option.
VW might be committed to the technology but VW Ireland are merely going through the motions...

kmart6

paddy1976 wrote: »

Hi guys. Paddy here. We know we’ve been a little slow to the party but that’s why we are reaching out. EVs haven’t been a huge priority for us as you might have experienced but we intend that to change. We’d just like to arrange a few guys over for some driving, discussion, coffee and cake. eGolf won’t ever be huge numbers for us but I.D will be a different story. So there is a lot of work to do.

Hi Paddy, do you have a location nailed down?

paddy1976

kmart6 wrote: »

Hi Paddy, do you have a location nailed down?

Yes - it will be here in our HQ in Liffey Valley - just up from Frank Keane Liffey Valley

zoom_cool

Will the event have the new eGolf? I have a daily commute of 170km about 100km on Motorway and 70km on slower N roads would the new eGolf be able to do this trip comfortably? Especially in Winter?

paddy1976

zoom_cool wrote: »

Will the event have the new eGolf? I have a daily commute of 170km about 100km on Motorway and 70km on slower N roads would the new eGolf be able to do this trip comfortably? Especially in Winter?

Yes we have two eGolfs - I would say yes - working range of 220-240 seems very do-able. As you all know, motorway speeds aren't where it is at its best. I was commuting from Drogheda to Liffey Valley in the car and generally did two days before I needed to charge. But I drove at rush hour both times so seldom passed 100km/h on the motorway.

zoom_cool

Thanks Paddy for getting back on this I would be interested in see the new eGolf and talk about it. I would really have to try my daily commute out with one just to see what type of range I could get. I know the motorway is not good for battery vehicles but this is the daily commute . when do you think the event will take place? I have a few people at work also interested in looking at the new eGolf as we where discussing electric vehicles at work today due to the company I work for contemplating installing charge points.

paddy1976

zoom_cool wrote: »

Thanks Paddy for getting back on this I would be interested in see the new eGolf and talk about it. I would really have to try my daily commute out with one just to see what type of range I could get. I know the motorway is not good for battery vehicles but this is the daily commute . when do you think the event will take place? I have a few people at work also interested in looking at the new eGolf as we where discussing electric vehicles at work today due to the company I work for contemplating installing charge points.

We are looking at November 29th, but talk to Unkel about it, he will control who attends...

zoom_cool

OK thanks Paddy

DaveyDave

While I wouldn't have much to contribute to the discussion in terms of where VW is heading with electric cars, I'd love to participate if possible. I have electric cars on my radar and would absolutely consider one in the future, possibly even as the next car. Considering the Golf is one of the best selling cars in the country I'd be interested in seeing where VW takes it especially knowing that availability/advertising is currently an issue. I even had trouble test driving a Golf when ordering my MK7.5 1.0 DSG.

I think Ireland as a whole still needs a bit of work for EVs to take off, just look at how many people are still buying diesels for short journeys. It's mad to think of how many people were doing big mileage in diesels switched over yet there's people who live and work in Dublin driving very little who are worried about batteries running out.

I wouldn't have had my eye on the eGolf if it wasn't for a recent video review of one posted recently and someone on here purchasing one, it really sounds like a solid electric car. I think the Irish Government needs to do a bit more too, paying for motor tax on zero emission vehicles is a bit ridiculous, especially as Irish motorists think too much about tax when buying their cars.

billy few mates

DaveyDave wrote: »

While I wouldn't have much to contribute to the discussion in terms of where VW is heading with electric cars, I'd love to participate if possible. I have electric cars on my radar and would absolutely consider one in the future, possibly even as the next car. Considering the Golf is one of the best selling cars in the country I'd be interested in seeing where VW takes it especially knowing that availability/advertising is currently an issue. I even had trouble test driving a Golf when ordering my MK7.5 1.0 DSG.

I think Ireland as a whole still needs a bit of work for EVs to take off, just look at how many people are still buying diesels for short journeys. It's mad to think of how many people were doing big mileage in diesels switched over yet there's people who live and work in Dublin driving very little who are worried about batteries running out.

I wouldn't have had my eye on the eGolf if it wasn't for a recent video review of one posted recently and someone on here purchasing one, it really sounds like a solid electric car. I think the Irish Government needs to do a bit more too, paying for motor tax on zero emission vehicles is a bit ridiculous, especially as Irish motorists think too much about tax when buying their cars.

Ring up one of the appointed VW electric/hybrid dealerships and tell them you're interested in an eGolf and see for yourself the enthusiasm the sales people have for these things! It speaks volumes that VW Ireland only make them available in three dealerships nationwide, you should be able to walk into any dealership in the country and buy one. The VW Golf is Ireland's best selling car, surely a fraction of that captive market could be persuaded switch over. I became interested in a GTE when I first discovered them, after reading about them on here and watching some reviews I decided I could actually live with an eGolf.
After speaking to the VW Ireland salespeople I decided I didn't need either of them....

Shefwedfan

billy few mates wrote: »

Ring up one of the appointed VW electric/hybrid dealerships and tell them you're interested in an eGolf and see for yourself the enthusiasm the sales people have for these things! It speaks volumes that VW Ireland only make them available in three dealerships nationwide, you should be able to walk into any dealership in the country and buy one. The VW Golf is Ireland's best selling car, surely a fraction of that captive market could be persuaded switch over. I became interested in a GTE when I first discovered them, after reading about them on here and watching some reviews I decided I could actually live with an eGolf.
After speaking to the VW Ireland salespeople I decided I didn't need either of them....

Really when you walk in VW they should have each Golf available. Ask the customer 2-3 questions and then recommend which model to pick

At the moment if you dont ask for a diesel they look at you like you have 10 heads:P

billy few mates

Shefwedfan wrote: »

billy few mates wrote: »

Ring up one of the appointed VW electric/hybrid dealerships and tell them you're interested in an eGolf and see for yourself the enthusiasm the sales people have for these things! It speaks volumes that VW Ireland only make them available in three dealerships nationwide, you should be able to walk into any dealership in the country and buy one. The VW Golf is Ireland's best selling car, surely a fraction of that captive market could be persuaded switch over. I became interested in a GTE when I first discovered them, after reading about them on here and watching some reviews I decided I could actually live with an eGolf.
After speaking to the VW Ireland salespeople I decided I didn't need either of them....

Really when you walk in VW they should have each Golf available. Ask the customer 2-3 questions and then recommend which model to pick

At the moment if you dont ask for a diesel they look at you like you have 10 heads:P

Thats the problem, when someone tells you they don't have any and they won't have any until sometime next year it's very easy to lose interest, I would think a lot of people would be won over if you could actually put them straight into one.
The sales people tasked with handling the EV sales must dread the call from interested customers because they know they're going to have to go to the additional hassle of charging the thing up for a test drive and then have to try and field a load of awkward technical questions about the car from people who they feel probably won't actually buy one. Why would they want to go through all that effort when they could be racking up sales of the petrol and diesel models which practically sell themselves..?
If VW are serious about trying to sell these cars they need to roll them out across the network, get a few into stock, get a few demos in for people to drive, get an awareness campaign going to try and market them to the wider public.
Information days like the one being promoted on this thread are a step in the right direction but by targeting such a small internet discussion group you really are preaching to the converted. Its not us you need to convince about the benefits of these cars, it's the wider public...

thierry14

Whats this meeting about anyway?

Stay with us a few years until our ID concept range is out, going to be brill

We know E-Golf isn't good enough and not for everyone, we won't sell it in high numbers

We are going to be number 1 again in a few years

Tech is only a few years away

We are serious about EV's

Really we are

We will be selling big numbers of ID concept

??

Is that the jist of it?

Snacks and a few test drives of our current EV which we don't want to sell in big volume, available too

Shefwedfan

thierry14 wrote: »

Whats this meeting about anyway?

Stay with us a few years until our ID concept range is out, going to be brill

We know E-Golf isn't good enough and not for everyone, we won't sell it in high numbers

We are going to be number 1 again in a few years

Tech is only a few years away

We are serious about EV's

Really we are

We will be selling big numbers of ID concept

??

Is that the jist of it?

Snacks and a few test drives of our current EV which we don't want to sell in big volume, available too

Shefwedfan

thierry14 wrote: »

Whats this meeting about anyway?

Stay with us a few years until our ID concept range is out, going to be brill

We know E-Golf isn't good enough and not for everyone, we won't sell it in high numbers

Not selling in high numbers?

http://pushevs.com/2017/11/08/volkswagen-e-golf-sold-car-norway/

https://insideevs.com/norway-ev-sales-october-2017/

Similar in US and Europe.....

thierry14

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Not selling in high numbers?

http://pushevs.com/2017/11/08/volkswagen-e-golf-sold-car-norway/

https://insideevs.com/norway-ev-sales-october-2017/

Similar in US and Europe.....

I'll give you that one

DaveyDave

10 sold here this year, interestingly 2 sold in September and 2 in October, surprised to see that many so recently yet you hear nothing of them.

Shefwedfan

DaveyDave wrote: »

10 sold here this year, interestingly 2 sold in September and 2 in October, surprised to see that many so recently yet you hear nothing of them.

I remember someone posted on here after they bought brand new one, few weeks back, navy one

berocore

http://pushevs.com/2017/11/08/volkswagen-e-golf-sold-car-norway/

E-Golf getting well in Norway - obviously price is much better then here because of goverment ..... in Ireland it's the other way round - "diesel is the best" :eek:

cros13

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Not selling in high numbers?

http://pushevs.com/2017/11/08/volkswagen-e-golf-sold-car-norway/

https://insideevs.com/norway-ev-sales-october-2017/

Similar in US and Europe.....

In Norway the eGolf is €100 cheaper than the cheapest Petrol/Diesel Golf.
In Ireland it's €14,000 more expensive.

beauf

Theres a Golf plugged in at my usual train station. Don't know which model it is. Always wondered about charging at a train station. I assume people leave them there the whole day. Though I've never seen them there in the evening. I'd like to see the cost of total ownership compare, taking into account resale, depreciation and the effect of new battery technology has on the total ownership cost. Considering we are now seeing denser packs available in new cars and they can be retro fitted, although that infrastructure isn't in place in most markets yet. Also curious about refurbishing batteries, considering we are starting to see people replacing cells in Prius. Does this mean used electric and hybrids are now viable in the used market and even in bangernomics? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSwUEVx5G3U

beauf

cros13 wrote: »

In Norway the eGolf is €100 cheaper than the cheapest Petrol/Diesel Golf.
In Ireland it's €14,000 more expensive.

Thats a bit nuts alright. Why so?

Shefwedfan

cros13 wrote: »

In Norway the eGolf is €100 cheaper than the cheapest Petrol/Diesel Golf.
In Ireland it's €14,000 more expensive.

Not really a proper comparison now is it? kind of comparing Apples with banana's

The baseline Golf I would class as just a set of seats in a tin can.....who in there right mind buys a new car and then buy the base spec???

If you are buying a Golf with a decent spec then you will look at the Highline which would have a comparable spec to the eGolf. Also you need to price the automatic

The starting price on that is 30k which is the petrol version. Ok so it is about 4-5k more expensive but no where near the 14k you mention

The standard model most Irish people are buying is the durty diesel. Which has a starting price of 33K on the 1.6 and really you would go for the 2.0ltr if spending all that money and it is 34k

So the electric is 1-3k more expensive

Now how much will you save on fuel in year 1??????

Anyone can make a comparison which makes the eGolf look expensive but in reality for someone who is buying a Golf it is not an expensive car versus the diesel version which is the biggest seller in Ireland....

P.S I think VW should hire me to sell the eGolf :P

thierry14

cros13 wrote: »

In Norway the eGolf is €100 cheaper than the cheapest Petrol/Diesel Golf.
In Ireland it's €14,000 more expensive.

That's unreal

I'd buy one tomorrow if they were 25k, not 35k

Shefwedfan

Shefwedfan wrote: »

So the electric is 1-3k more expensive

Now how much will you save on fuel in year 1??????

Depends on mileage.

At 50 mpg average you'd need around 1,694 Litres of diesel. Diesel @ 1.20 = 2,000 Euro's.

Leaf average 18 Kwh/100 Km would require 5,400 Kwh or electricity costing 378 Euro's @ 7 cent per Kwh provided you can charge all on night rate so some will be peak electricity and some will be free public charging or in my case 40-45% is free work charging and at home some is peak charging because I work 6 mights a month and have to charge during the day.

KCross

cros13 wrote: »

In Norway the eGolf is €100 cheaper than the cheapest Petrol/Diesel Golf.
In Ireland it's €14,000 more expensive.

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Not really a proper comparison now is it? kind of comparing Apples with banana's

The baseline Golf I would class as just a set of seats in a tin can.....who in there right mind buys a new car and then buy the base spec???

If you are buying a Golf with a decent spec then you will look at the Highline which would have a comparable spec to the eGolf. Also you need to price the automatic

The starting price on that is 30k which is the petrol version. Ok so it is about 4-5k more expensive but no where near the 14k you mention

The standard model most Irish people are buying is the durty diesel. Which has a starting price of 33K on the 1.6 and really you would go for the 2.0ltr if spending all that money and it is 34k

So the electric is 1-3k more expensive

Now how much will you save on fuel in year 1??????

Anyone can make a comparison which makes the eGolf look expensive but in reality for someone who is buying a Golf it is not an expensive car versus the diesel version which is the biggest seller in Ireland....

P.S I think VW should hire me to sell the eGolf :P

I would think that his point is that the cheapest ICE Golf in Norway is more expensive than the eGolf... hence its a no brainer to buy an eGolf.

That isn't the same here hence the terrible uptake. Its not about spec, its about price!

What they should do is offer a base model eGolf with no bells/whistles, a bit like Nissan do with the Leaf... a bog standard XE up to the SVE with everything.... why can't VW do that? Because they dont want to.

beauf

What are the saving in Tax, (is the insurance cheaper)

Also servicing. Do we have any idea of costs.

DaveyDave

Shefwedfan wrote: »

If you are buying a Golf with a decent spec then you will look at the Highline which would have a comparable spec to the eGolf. Also you need to price the automatic

The starting price on that is 30k which is the petrol version. Ok so it is about 4-5k more expensive but no where near the 14k you mention

The standard model most Irish people are buying is the durty diesel. Which has a starting price of 33K on the 1.6 and really you would go for the 2.0ltr if spending all that money and it is 34k

So the electric is 1-3k more expensive

Now how much will you save on fuel in year 1??????

Anyone can make a comparison which makes the eGolf look expensive but in reality for someone who is buying a Golf it is not an expensive car versus the diesel version which is the biggest seller in Ireland....

P.S I think VW should hire me to sell the eGolf :P

Actually the eGolf lacks a bit of the spec of the Highline, you need to spend an extra €1,260 to get the same spec and that still lacks 17" wheels and Alcantara sports seats. I'm assuming as it has the 9" Infotainment though that is has navigation and App connect, I can give the wheels a pass as it's an EV. The Highline tech pack also has heated seats, which is an extra €530 and you'd also want to spec the rear view camera.

The eGolf is €36,609 while the Highline Petrol 1.0 DSG is €29,662 (With High Beam assist, included on the eGolf). €6,947 in the difference. I don't know how the eGolf could possibly retail for €46k? Is that a false retail price to make up for the €10k in grants?

There's also no option of keyless?

Shefwedfan

thierry14 wrote: »

That's unreal

I'd buy one tomorrow if they were 25k, not 35k

Mine was 22k:p

Shefwedfan

KCross wrote: »

I would think that his point is that the cheapest ICE Golf in Norway is more expensive than the eGolf... hence its a no brainer to buy an eGolf.

That isn't the same here hence the terrible uptake. Its not about spec, its about price!

What they should do is offer a base model eGolf with no bells/whistles, a bit like Nissan do with the Leaf... a bog standard XE up to the SVE with everything.... why can't VW do that? Because they dont want to.

I disagree.....too many people in Ireland think that because you drive an electric car you have to drive a lower class of car

As you can see from my initial thread when I looked at buying electric car I wanted to see the savings but I was not willing to buy just any old car to save cash. I still want to enjoy driving the car and have comfort.

Ok it cost me a few extra quid, but do I care? not really...I have a car that is enjoyable to drive and comfortable....what more could you ask for?

Really what is the point in living if you dont enjoy it? you cant bring your cash with you!!!

KCross

Shefwedfan wrote: »

I disagree.....too many people in Ireland think that because you drive an electric car you have to drive a lower class of car

As you can see from my initial thread when I looked at buying electric car I wanted to see the savings but I was not willing to buy just any old car to save cash. I still want to enjoy driving the car and have comfort.

Ok it cost me a few extra quid, but do I care? not really...I have a car that is enjoyable to drive and comfortable....what more could you ask for?

Really what is the point in living if you dont enjoy it? you cant bring your cash with you!!!

The point Im making is that cros13 wasn't making an apples to oranges comparison like you said. He was merely stating that the cheapest ICE Golf was more expensive than an eGolf which explains its high sales in Norway.

Price is the driver for most people and there should be no reason why VW can't provide multiple versions of the eGolf like they do with every other car they make. They have decided to make the eGolf a top end car only... why? They didn't do it for the rest of the Golf range.

Shefwedfan

KCross wrote: »

The point Im making is that cros13 wasn't making an apples to oranges comparison like you said. He was merely stating that the cheapest ICE Golf was more expensive than an eGolf which explains its high sales.

Price is the driver for most people.

Sorry I had put in section but must have deleted

I think if you go to US & Europe(central) you will also see the eGolf is selling very strong. From what I can see the eGolf would be along the same lines as here in terms of price versus standard Golf.

KCross

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Sorry I had put in section but must have deleted

I think if you go to US & Europe(central) you will also see the eGolf is selling very strong. From what I can see the eGolf would be along the same lines as here in terms of price versus standard Golf.

The eGolf prices in UK & Ireland are are the top end of the price range.... thats the point. It might be selling strong but its not topping the polls like in Norway.... the price is what drove it in Norway.

There is no cheaper version that you can buy like the Leaf where you have XE, SV and SVE specs.

VW simply don't want (or probably need) to drop the price or provide lower spec models like the ICE Golf. They are happy to sell relatively small numbers of eGolf in favour of ICE.

And it might be down to simply not having the battery capacity to sell large numbers. If they did provide a €20k-€30k eGolf it would probably sell too well so they decide to jack the price as high as possible and squeeze the max margin from it until they get their battery manufacturing capacity up in a few years time.

thierry14

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Mine was 22k:p

Nice

Great car at that price