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GO'H National Champion

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  • #92
    ThisRegard
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    So all clubs came together to conspire against, and succeed, individuals?


  • #93
    event
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    Chivito550 wrote: »
    His comments have taken the gloss off his run for me. His comment on Facebook implying that Freddy is dishonest is irrepairable in my opinion. Sad to see athletes take pot shots like that.

    You've taken plenty of potshots at GOH yourself since Sunday.


  • #94
    Murph_D
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    the Competition Rules be amended so that in order for an athlete to be either a Title Holder/Medallist (to be defined as referring to top 3 finishers or top 3 winning team members, in track and field - outdoor and/or indoor - cross country or road) and/or the holder of a Championship Record (individual or team), the athlete must be a holder of, or be eligible to hold, an Irish passport and/or must reside on the island of Ireland (for a minimum of 6 consecutive months immediately prior to the relevant Championships) and must be a member of an affiliated club on the island of Ireland.

    By the way does this mean someone in Freddy's position can still contribute to a team score, as long as it's not a winning score, or a Championship Record score? :confused:


  • #95
    Chivito550
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    event wrote: »
    You've taken plenty of potshots at GOH yourself since Sunday.

    Hardly potshots. I don’t know him as a person. Just calling what I’ve seen and heard in public domain.


  • #96
    tunguska
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    Personally I feel the right decision has been made. Im happy for GOH, he ran an amazing race.


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  • #97
    ooter
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    Looks like they're going to be talking to Joe about it today.


  • #98
    adrian522
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    What a mess.


  • #99
    walshb
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    The Kenyan lad should have been allowed keep title. He was given it. To then after a few days row back on that is bad form.....they then make any changes in a subtle manner for the future and move on. Just bad manners more than anything else.

    If I was GOH I would refuse it...In solidarity with my fellow competitor(s).


  • #100
    OOnegative
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    walshb wrote: »
    The Kenyan lad should have been allowed keep title. He was given it. To then after a few days row back on that is bad form.....they then make any changes in a subtle manner for the future and move on. Just bad manners more than anything else.

    If I was GOH I would refuse it...In solidarity with my fellow competitor(s).

    At last the voice of sense joins the conversation.


  • #101
    ooter
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    GOH on liveline now..


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  • #102
    djemba djemba
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    ooter wrote: »
    GOH on liveline now..

    What is the purpose of this now


  • #103
    ooter
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    Went home for 6 weeks, that's a bit much in fairness.


  • #104
    Linda Gifted Tuition
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    Joe must be off this week :)


  • #105
    ooter
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    Freddie on the line now..


  • #106
    event
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    Ah Freddy said he knew the rule, that he had to be here for 6 months.

    This is a shambles tbh, they are making him look bad which is unfair


  • #107
    Linda Gifted Tuition
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    Dublin Marathon paid for his flight for him to come back for the race. You couldn't make this stuff up :rolleyes:


  • #108
    ooter
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    Dublin Marathon paid for Freddie's flight back from Kenya so how did athletics Ireland not know he wasn't here for the last 6 months?


  • #109
    Duanington
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    you couldn't write it !


  • #110
    Pighead
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    Bernard from Raheny Shamrocks more put out by this whole affair than Freddy it seems.


  • #111
    RacoonQueen
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    Murph_D wrote: »
    By the way does this mean someone in Freddy's position can still contribute to a team score, as long as it's not a winning score, or a Championship Record score? :confused:

    Yeah he can. In the results on AI website for 2015 he is down as first championship finisher in the team results but not included in the individual mens results.


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  • #112
    RayCun
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    ooter wrote: »
    Dublin Marathon paid for Freddie's flight back from Kenya so how did athletics Ireland not know he wasn't here for the last 6 months?

    two different bodies


  • #113
    djemba djemba
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    Is Bernard a caller who is just a member of Raheny or is he representing the club in an official capacity.


  • #114
    28064212
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    RacoonQueen wrote: »
    Yeah he can. In the results on AI website for 2015 he is down as first championship finisher in the team results but not included in the individual mens results.
    That's prior to the rule change though. The previous rules had different regulations for individual and team

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  • #115
    Testosterscone
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    Pighead wrote: »
    Bernard from Raheny Shamrocks more put out by this whole affair than Freddy it seems.

    Given that people have been putting blame solely on Raheny you can understand him wanting to defend a club he has grown up competing for.


  • #116
    ooter
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    RayCun wrote: »
    two different bodies

    Yes but surely they communicate with each other?


  • #117
    Testosterscone
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    ooter wrote: »
    Yes but surely they communicate with each other?

    Either AAI were ignorant in which case there are serious issues with our governing body have no involvement in our National Championship

    OR

    They were aware but were happy to let Raheny take the fall

    Neither scenario does much for the AAI


  • #118
    RayCun
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    ooter wrote: »
    Yes but surely they communicate with each other?

    If you were the guy in DCM who decided to pay for Freddie's flight back from Kenya, would you think, "oh, better let Athletics Ireland know about this"? Probably not, you have other things to be doing, championship eligibility is between the club and AAI to sort out.

    This whole thing though does make me wonder about the "ordinarily resident" criteria I was talking about earlier. If people are having trouble with "6 months continuous residence before the competition", how much harder would it be to track "183 days of the previous 365"? Who is going to track that? How would it be verified?


  • #119
    ted1
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    walshb wrote: »
    The Kenyan lad should have been allowed keep title. He was given it. To then after a few days row back on that is bad form.....they then make any changes in a subtle manner for the future and move on. Just bad manners more than anything else.

    If I was GOH I would refuse it...In solidarity with my fellow competitor(s).

    €1,000 to many people is a bit much to just leave. It has not being many days. it was 2 working days. sure people are awarded Olympics medals years after events, didn't Rob Heffernan not receive a medal years after an event. should he have just turned it away?

    if GOH had of known that Freddy was in the running, would he have made more of an effort? or did he feel that he had a comfortable lead and held back?


  • #120
    Hyzepher
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    So if the longest you can get a visa for is 6 months then having to reside in Ireland for 6 months PRIOR to the race would make it impossible for Freddie to race for national title


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  • #121
    Testosterscone
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    RayCun wrote: »
    If you were the guy in DCM who decided to pay for Freddie's flight back from Kenya, would you think, "oh, better let Athletics Ireland know about this"? Probably not, you have other things to be doing, championship eligibility is between the club and AAI to sort out.

    Ah come on Ray, Freddy was at the elite meeting the night before along with Garry. The same meeting where the rules for Gary's singlet were apparently confirmed (according to himself)


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