Easiest cars to sell in Dublin?

commited

Hi folks,

A buddy of mine is returning to the country for 6 months and has asked my advice regarding what to buy to last him for this time. Doesn't want to rent a car and his NCB is still in tact here so insurance shouldn't be a problem. Looking for <€10k (but flexible), ideally looking for guidance on what sort of cars sell quickest. I always buy cars that are hard to sell so I told him I wasn't the best man to advise :pac:

Any suggestions?

Dravokivich

Watch how long ads stay up on Done Deal.

begbysback

Anything he sells for less than he paid for it

commited

OSI wrote: »

Anything with a VW badge and a diesel engine.

Still the case even with the recent emissions scandals etc?

ba_barabus

He's only back for 6 months? Buy the cheapest car he would find acceptable. Check out the bangernomics thread. Hard to go wrong with a petrol Corolla of any generation.

commited

ba_barabus wrote: »

He's only back for 6 months? Buy the cheapest car he would find acceptable. Check out the bangernomics thread. Hard to go wrong with a petrol Corolla of any generation.

I suggested this but he wants something modern as worried about breakdowns etc. There is no talking to him.

Golf sounds like a good idea - does spec/engine matter?

elperello

Golf or Corolla are good.
Also Skoda Octavia.

colm_mcm

Or just don’t spend €10k

bazz26

I'd be looking at a 03 to 09 shape Avensis petrol. Reliable and cheap to buy these days yet modern enough. You can pick of a 05/06 for 2k or less. It would be nuts spending 10k on a car for only 6 months as there would still be a decent bit of depreciation left on it.

selectamatic

Firstly he's going to lose a bit of money on insurance as the refund after 6 months is not going to be much.

Used Sales for cars over 5 or 6 grand are way down as everyone is going to the UK for 08+ or going new/pcp. Buying a newish car on dd is a minefield but if he buys cheap and sells cheap he'll do alright. (This is proper high risk though one break down and he's fecked)

As said bangernomics is the smart choice less monetary risk and the cars are generally simpler and easier/cheaper to fix.

IMO now at this time of year I feel the fool proof buy is a standard manual is200 get one with plenty of test for sub €1500 and come late spring next year it'll be worth a touch over €1500 because it's rally season (rings lawd) the only thing to look for really is a recent belt change a side from that it's basic stuff. Avoid green and silver if at all possible.

If he could get a cheapish reliable convertible with a hardtop it'd be a good move also they always get a bump in price and demand in late spring.

If he ploughs on with the 10k idea he's on a hiding to nothing imo (depreciation and a quiet market will guarantee he'll lose money) but if he wants a 2008+ car then that's what he'll get no one ever changes their mind easily on car choices.

JohnBoy26

commited wrote: »

I suggested this but he wants something modern as worried about breakdowns etc. There is no talking to him.

Golf sounds like a good idea - does spec/engine matter?

He dismissed a corolla because he is worried about breakdowns? Maybe it's an army tank he needs.

Del2005

commited wrote: »

Hi folks,

A buddy of mine is returning to the country for 6 months and has asked my advice regarding what to buy to last him for this time. Doesn't want to rent a car and his NCB is still in tact here so insurance shouldn't be a problem. Looking for <€10k (but flexible), ideally looking for guidance on what sort of cars sell quickest. I always buy cars that are hard to sell so I told him I wasn't the best man to advise :pac:

Any suggestions?

If he buys a €1k car he'll have 9 lives, the chances of buying 9 lemons in 6 months is slim, and still be saving cash. Any 2nd hand car is a gamble the only thing paying more gets you is a younger vehicle not a reduced risk of breakdowns.

commited wrote: »

I suggested this but he wants something modern as worried about breakdowns etc. There is no talking to him.

Del2005

Del2005 wrote: »

If he buys a €1k car he'll have 9 lives, the chances of buying 9 lemons in 6 months is slim, and still be saving cash. Any 2nd hand car is a gamble the only thing paying more gets you is a younger vehicle not a reduced risk of breakdowns.

You’re not very good at this, are you?

Buyer newer and/or lower mileage and/or better condition will generally cost more and reduce the likelihood of breakdowns.

commited

commited wrote: »

Hi folks,

A buddy of mine is returning to the country for 6 months and has asked my advice regarding what to buy to last him for this time. Doesn't want to rent a car and his NCB is still in tact here so insurance shouldn't be a problem. Looking for <€10k (but flexible), ideally looking for guidance on what sort of cars sell quickest. I always buy cars that are hard to sell so I told him I wasn't the best man to advise :pac:

Any suggestions?

How much is he prepared to lose in total for the 6 months once he sells on whatever he buys? Factor in tax, NCT, insurance also. Ask him and let us know here.

road_high

Honda Civic. Sold one for my mother a few years back, handy money and straight car. The phone never stopped ringing, I ignored over half of them tbh.

Del2005

JayZeus wrote: »

You’re not very good at this, are you?

Buyer newer and/or lower mileage and/or better condition will generally cost more and reduce the likelihood of breakdowns.

I'm quite good at it actually. I've bought from bangers to mid priced 2nd hand cars and have never had a problem. I know several mechanics for most major brands and regularly hear of people having major issues with brand new vehicles and this forum is full of people having trouble with expensive 2nd hand cars.

The only part I agree with is buy on condition. I'd rather a banger looked after by a mechanically sympathetic owner than a year old car from someone who red lines from cold while slipping the clutch till it smells.

commited

Del2005 wrote: »

If he buys a €1k car he'll have 9 lives, the chances of buying 9 lemons in 6 months is slim, and still be saving cash. Any 2nd hand car is a gamble the only thing paying more gets you is a younger vehicle not a reduced risk of breakdowns.

I think the idea isn't to never see the €10k again.

Regarding how much he's willing to lose, I think the idea is to buy something that will lose very little - €500-1k maximum.

I'm a big advocate of bangernomics myself and maybe I can persuade him further. I keep sending him 3.0 barges though so that might be where I'm going wrong :pac:

colm_mcm

An evsnsis 1.6 for 2-2.5k as suggested earlier is a great idea.

ba_barabus

colm_mcm wrote: »

An evsnsis 1.6 for 2-2.5k as suggested earlier is a great idea.

Yep. +3

You'd have to pick a right ****e one to go wrong.

Leonard Hofstadter

ba_barabus wrote: »

Yep. +3

You'd have to pick a right ****e one to go wrong.

I agree with the above, just watch the oil in them as the VVTis can be fond of a drop, apart from that it's never going to cause any problems, those things will do 200,000 miles in their sleep.

micks_address

A automatic honda jazz petrol would be a very quick seller also.

badboyblast

road_high wrote: »

Honda Civic. Sold one for my mother a few years back, handy money and straight car. The phone never stopped ringing, I ignored over half of them tbh.

What type of civic was it by chance? They are very reliable in fairness

GypsyByName

micks_address wrote: »

A automatic honda jazz petrol would be a very quick seller also.

I was going to suggest this but decided against this because I have a yard full of them here in front of me!

road_high

badboyblast wrote: »

What type of civic was it by chance? They are very reliable in fairness

The 2001 one, the first of the new model MPV style 5 door. But any Civic will be a good seller. We had a bit of bother with the gearbox on that one but engine etc super reliable. Liked a drop of oil too but was no biggy.

bazz26

Gearbox bearing failure is very common on that model Civic.

Sexual Chocolate

Small automatic would be his best bet I think, there is definitely a market for them in this country.

JohnBoy26

road_high wrote: »

The 2001 one, the first of the new model MPV style 5 door. But any Civic will be a good seller. We had a bit of bother with the gearbox on that one but engine etc super reliable. Liked a drop of oil too but was no biggy.

A corolla holds it's value better and is easier to sell than that model civic.

selectamatic

Any of these early noughties petrol civics, corolla's avensis' etc will sell alright but it'll be down around the 1k mark or lower and they'd need a full windscreen at that too.

The market is massively different to what it was a few years ago. 2.5k for a 1.6 mk2 avensis is approaching dreamer territory at this stage. There's 77 2007 models on dd at the moment and no matter how clean they are I can't see anyone getting over 2k for one. 04 and 05 ones are selling for a couple of hundred.

Young people can't insure them and older people don't want them unless they're cheap. It's a simplified view of things but it's a similar story for countless cars from the mid noughties at the moment especially petrol ones.

Somewhat reliable diesels that are insurable are still holding onto some semblance of value but even so it's most certainly not a sellers market. Unless you play the game in a niche area.

road_high

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

A corolla holds it's value better and is easier to sell than that model civic.

Right where did I even mention Toyota here? You have Toyota on the brain on the brain. Yes, they are reasonably reliable cars and suit A-B drivers with no real interest in style, driving dynamics or performance. With a few past and present exceptions including the Land Cruiser, GT86 and Celica.

road_high

selectamatic wrote: »

Any of these early noughties petrol civics, corolla's avensis' etc will sell alright but it'll be down around the 1k mark or lower and they'd need a full windscreen at that too.

The market is massively different to what it was a few years ago. 2.5k for a 1.6 mk2 avensis is approaching dreamer territory at this stage. There's 77 2007 models on dd at the moment and no matter how clean they are I can't see anyone getting over 2k for one. 04 and 05 ones are selling for a couple of hundred.

Young people can't insure them and older people don't want them unless they're cheap. It's a simplified view of things but it's a similar story for countless cars from the mid noughties at the moment especially petrol ones.

Somewhat reliable diesels that are insurable are still holding onto some semblance of value but even so it's most certainly not a sellers market. Unless you play the game in a niche area.

I think the change in tax from mid 08 buried cars older than that at this stage. Which is a crying shame as these were so many perfectly good cars with larger engines rendered unsaleable. And the govt have the audacity to ****e on about climate change sending perfectly good cars to the scrapper. Sinful waste.

colm_mcm

Nah, they're just old cars now more than anything.

road_high

colm_mcm wrote: »

Nah, they're just old cars now more than anything.

Which has been exacerbated by the hefty tax regime. When it costs more to tax than it's worth, it becomes a psychological barrier for some buyers..

colm_mcm

It's certainly not a new thing though, it was the same 10 years ago.

road_high

colm_mcm wrote: »

It's certainly not a new thing though, it was the same 10 years ago.

Difference is now there's a steep differential in road taxes. That didn't exist before as all cars were the same rates regardless of age.

JohnBoy26

road_high wrote: »

Right where did I even mention Toyota here? You have Toyota on the brain on the brain. Yes, they are reasonably reliable cars and suit A-B drivers with no real interest in style, driving dynamics or performance. With a few past and present exceptions including the Land Cruiser, GT86 and Celica.

Well the thread is easiest car to sell isn't it? A 5dr 7th gen civic certainly isn't the easiest car to sell.