New regulations regarding tyres - sales + recycling.

joujoujou

https://repakelt.ie/regulation/

I have to admit I do not understand it at all.

I guess if I buy tyres from B&M store and get them fitted by them straight away I wouldn't even notice the difference (apart from obvious price increase), but what about online purchase?

jimbis

If you buy from outside of the republic then you become the one responsible for charging the tax to the customer, Seeing as you ARE the customer and not a registered Repak supplier/retailer then it'll fall on the company fitting (and in turn being the one disposing of the old tyre) to charge you (the customer) the disposal tax.

Saying that, there is still alot of confusion in the industry with regards to this & part worns.

Atlantic Dawn

How do other EU countries handle them, probably just incinerate them.

bazz26

They sell them to the Irish as part worns. :P

joujoujou

jimbis wrote: »

[...] Seeing as you ARE the customer and not a registered Repak supplier/retailer then it'll fall on the company fitting (and in turn being the one disposing of the old tyre) to charge you (the customer) the disposal tax.

So, the whole regulation will not stop online shopping (from outside of a country), right?

And I wonder how would the charging/disposal of old tyres work? I buy online, go to a fitter, pay for fitment, leave my old tyres and pay extra for disposal?

What if I decide not to leave old tyres? Example: buying another set of tyres (say, to have summer and winter set and swap them over twice a year)? Nobody should enforce me to leave a set of still roadworthy tyres for disposal, nor to pay for that.

jimbis wrote: »

Saying that, there is still alot of confusion in the industry with regards to this & part worns.

That's exactly my thoughts as well.

jimbis

joujoujou wrote: »

And I wonder how would the charging/disposal of old tyres work? I buy online, go to a fitter, pay for fitment, leave my old tyres and pay extra for disposal?

What if I decide not to leave old tyres? Example: buying another set of tyres (say, to have summer and winter set and swap them over twice a year)? Nobody should enforce me to leave a set of still roadworthy tyres for disposal, nor to pay for that.

It's up to the fitter wheather they want to charge you the extra €2.80 +vat either included or on top of their usual fitting charge. But if they are disposing them through repak they will have to pay the charge, and it must be also be listed on the customers receipt as seperate to the fitting charge.

With regards to not leaving your old tyres, the theory is that when a tyre is bought then the charge must be payed, Ie your paying the charge now for the disposal of that tyre in years to come. Much like the way the WEEE thing works with electronics.
If it works out the same as that then it should be a good system. The problem is there are garages all over the country with stock piles of scrap tyres that haven't been 'taxed on point of sale for disposal'....

Another problem is your still gonna have the cowboy scrap tyre collectors that'll take the scrap tyres for a fraction of what repak is charging. So fitters will charge the tax to the customer and then pay less to the cowboy to take them away (and illegally dump them).

Repak say that some of the money raised from the tax will fund operations to stop the illegal collectors.


That's the way I'm currently understanding it anyway, it's all very vague in parts.

grogi

That regulation makes a lot of sense if recycling centers will accept tyres free of charge.

You buy a tyre, pay the recycling levy in the purchase price and can dispose the tyres free of charge. There would be no reason to dispose them in a forest or burn them, as the disposal would be already covered.

However this does not work like that, fitters are still charged the disposal fee AFAIK...

jimbis

grogi wrote: »

That regulation makes a lot of sense if recycling centers will accept tyres free of charge.

You buy a tyre, pay the recycling levy in the purchase price and can dispose the tyres free of charge. There would be no reason to dispose them in a forest or burn them, as the disposal would be already covered.

However this does not work like that, fitters are still charged the disposal fee AFAIK...

Whoever imports the tyre originally is obliged to sell it on with the tax applied to the cost of the tyre (but Invoiced seperatly on the receipt). That tax is passed on to the fitter and eventually to the customer.
The end retailer/fitter who sells to the customer has to enter their monthly sales to repak. Repak will then come and take the same amount of scrap tyres free of charge. If there is more scrap tyres than the fitter/retailer has sold that month, for example fitting tyres a customer bought themselves but leaves the scrap with you, then the extra cost falls on the fitter/retailer.

jimbis

jimbis wrote: »

........ Repak will then come and take the same amount of scrap tyres free of charge..............

Longterm this will work well, in the short term there's still lots of tyres about that might be disposed of in a haphazard manner but you have to start somewhere.