Ryanair travel documents

ShowMeTheCash

Hey maybe someone can answer this for me here:

Traveling to London with gf this Friday.

Flight is Belfast to London and back again on Sunday so it is a domestic flight.

Turns out gf passport is expired back in Sep, too late to renew but as this is a domestic flight will her drivers license be OK? Considering we live in Donegal and her license is a ROI not a UK one?

From the Ryanaire website:

A driving licence is not accepted as a travel document on international flights. The travel documents required for domestic flights differs from country to country. Flights between the UK and Ireland require a passport, a drivers licence is NOT accepted.

But as this is Belfast to London this is domestic? Yes
When they say UK and Ireland they mean UK and ROI i.e. Dublin?

When I go to the UK domestic section is just says "Any form of photographic ID"

So a ROI licence will be ok in this case?

EverythingGood

ShowMeTheCash wrote: »

Hey maybe someone can answer this for me here:

Traveling to London with gf this Friday.

Flight is Belfast to London and back again on Sunday so it is a domestic flight.

Turns out gf passport is expired back in Sep, too late to renew but as this is a domestic flight will her drivers license be OK? Considering we live in Donegal and her license is a ROI not a UK one?

From the Ryanaire website:

A driving licence is not accepted as a travel document on international flights. The travel documents required for domestic flights differs from country to country. Flights between the UK and Ireland require a passport, a drivers licence is NOT accepted.

But as this is Belfast to London this is domestic? Yes
When they say UK and Ireland they mean UK and ROI i.e. Dublin?

When I go to the UK domestic section is just says "Any form of photographic ID"

So a ROI licence will be ok in this case?

No, Ryanair insist on a passport

Hitman3000

ShowMeTheCash wrote:

So a ROI licence will be ok in this case?

Valid in date passport licence is unacceptable.

munchkin_utd

until the UK gives us the 6 counties back (or something happens after brexit) the North is still an integral part of the UK, as British as Finchley, 100% as much a part of the UK as Scotland Wales or England

So, being a domestic flight within the UK you deal with the UK domestic flight rules which states as acceptable ID:
(Domestic Flight) UK : Any photo ID which matches the passenger name in the booking.

see here, go down to domestic flights
https://www.ryanair.com/gb/en/useful-info/help-centre/terms-and-conditions/termsandconditionsar_368204930

so a drivers licence is grand.

ShowMeTheCash

munchkin_utd wrote: »

until the UK gives us the 6 counties back (or something happens after brexit) the North is still an integral part of the UK, as British as Finchley, 100% as much a part of the UK as Scotland Wales or England

So, being a domestic flight within the UK you deal with the UK domestic flight rules which states as acceptable ID:
(Domestic Flight) UK : Any photo ID which matches the passenger name in the booking.

see here, go down to domestic flights
https://www.ryanair.com/gb/en/useful-info/help-centre/terms-and-conditions/termsandconditionsar_368204930

so a drivers licence is grand.

This is what I thought...

@ Hitman3000 and EverythingGood

Make makes you say no?

I mean has this happened to you or are you just guessing?

toadfly

Arent you better to contact Ryanair and ask? Better than us guessing. Their live chat is good

Hitman3000

ShowMeTheCash wrote:

Make makes you say no?

Simple it's Ryanair and they have their own rules. By all means rock up to the gate with your ROI drivers license and let us know how you get on.

ShowMeTheCash

toadfly wrote: »

Arent you better to contact Ryanair and ask? Better than us guessing. Their live chat is good

I will try their live chat.

s15r330

Ryanair is passport only, their rule, nothing to do.with where you're from.

I'd chance the passport, may not be noticed

coylemj

toadfly wrote: »

Arent you better to contact Ryanair and ask? Better than us guessing. Their live chat is good

Asking someone in a call centre is not a good idea, that person won't be at the gate when you're refused boarding. Far better to read the Ts & Cs on the website.

Given my experience with call centre agents in general, I'd bet that most of them don't know that Belfast and Dublin are in different countries.

And we're not guessing, the OP has quoted direct from the Ryanair Ts & Cs where it clearly says that any photo id will suffice on a UK domestic flight.

coylemj

s15r330 wrote: »

Ryanair is passport only, their rule, nothing to do.with where you're from.

That's complete rubbish. They accept national ID cards from several European countries...

A valid National Identity Card issued by the government of a European Economic Area (EEA) country. (Only the following EEA countries currently issue National Identity Cards acceptable for carriage on Ryanair flights: Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Estonia, Finland, France*, Germany, Gibraltar, Greece, Hungary, Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Malta, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland

s15r330

coylemj wrote: »

That's complete rubbish. They accept national ID cards from several European countries...

A valid National Identity Card issued by the government of a European Economic Area (EEA) country. (Only the following EEA countries currently issue National Identity Cards acceptable for carriage on Ryanair flights: Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Estonia, Finland, France*, Germany, Gibraltar, Greece, Hungary, Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Malta, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland

Well i'm not from the other European countries and neither is the OP flying out from continental Europe either so why would I comment on national identity cards which we don't even have so wind your neck in

ShowMeTheCash

s15r330 wrote: »

Ryanair is passport only, their rule, nothing to do.with where you're from.

I'd chance the passport, may not be noticed

Only passport on international fights according to the website.

ShowMeTheCash

s15r330 wrote: »

Well i'm not from the other European countries and neither is the OP flying out from continental Europe either so why would I comment on national identity cards which we don't even have so wind your neck in

I am flying from Belfast to London technically a domestic flight.
If it was Dublin I know it would not be accepted.

s15r330

ShowMeTheCash wrote: »

I am flying from Belfast to London technically a domestic flight.
If it was Dublin I know it would not be accepted.

But you're not a UK citizen? Only they can tell u for sure.

ShowMeTheCash

s15r330 wrote: »

But you're not a UK citizen? Only they can tell u for sure.

Well that is the gray area. But (I would think)should it matter.
According to the ryanair website domestic flights inside the UK require any form of photo ID.

ShowMeTheCash

s15r330 wrote: »

But you're not a UK citizen? Only they can tell u for sure.

I am 27th in the chat queue, I will see what they say.

toadfly

coylemj wrote: »

Asking someone in a call centre is not a good idea, that person won't be at the gate when you're refused boarding. Far better to read the Ts & Cs on the website.

Given my experience with call centre agents in general, I'd bet that most of them don't know that Belfast and Dublin are in different countries.

And we're not guessing, the OP has quoted direct from the Ryanair Ts & Cs where it clearly says that any photo id will suffice on a UK domestic flight.

I didnt say to ask the call centre, I said to use their live chat. The transcript can be emailed as proof of what was said.

ShowMeTheCash

OK just off the live chat.

Belfast to London is a UK domestic flight, any form of Photographic ID can be used as long as it matched the name of the ticket. Does not matter where you are from.

s15r330

Sorted

coylemj

s15r330 wrote: »

Well i'm not from the other European countries.....

I was replying to your pretty explicit point that it has nothing to do with where you're from.

s15r330 wrote: »

Ryanair is passport only, their rule, nothing to do.with where you're from.

s15r330 wrote: »

...... and neither is the OP flying out from continental Europe either so why would I comment on national identity cards which we don't even have so wind your neck in

Those national ID cards are accepted on flights anywhere in Europe - a Latvian can fly from Dublin to Stanstead with his home id card and no passport.

s15r330

coylemj wrote: »

I was replying to your pretty explicit point that it has nothing to do with where you're from.





Those national ID cards are accepted on flights anywhere in Europe - a Latvian can fly from Dublin to Stanstead with his home id card and no passport.

He's not a Latvian is he, so zero relevance

mahamageehad

ShowMeTheCash wrote: »

OK just off the live chat.

Belfast to London is a UK domestic flight, any form of Photographic ID can be used as long as it matched the name of the ticket. Does not matter where you are from.

Good to know for future reference!

munchkin_utd

ShowMeTheCash wrote: »

I am flying from Belfast to London technically a domestic flight.
If it was Dublin I know it would not be accepted.

its not technically a domestic flight, it is a domestic flight.
Flying from Belfast to London is the exact same as flying from Liverpool or Cardiff or Glasgow to London

You cross the international border at Newry or Derrylin or Belcoo or wherever and then you are in the "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland" otherwise known as the UK, and passing to another part of the UK is simply passing to another part of the UK.

RocketRaccoon

s15r330 wrote: »

He's not a Latvian is he, so zero relevance

But you stated that Ryanair policy was basically no passport = no travel. You were wrong, the other poster proved you were wrong. Just accept it instead of backtracking.

spurious

I would still bring my passport. I'm afraid I have grown very wary of believing anything from Ryanair.

ShowMeTheCash

munchkin_utd wrote: »

its not technically a domestic flight, it is a domestic flight.
Flying from Belfast to London is the exact same as flying from Liverpool or Cardiff or Glasgow to London

You cross the international border at Newry or Derrylin or Belcoo or wherever and then you are in the "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland" otherwise known as the UK, and passing to another part of the UK is simply passing to another part of the UK.

Well northern Ireland is not part of Great Britain so there is a slight difference. But yes in terms of travel they should be the same but Airlines can do what they want if they so choose. If they require people who travel from N Ireland to mainland GB to have a passport then they can enforce it if they choose.

ShowMeTheCash

spurious wrote: »

I would still bring my passport. I'm afraid I have grown very wary of believing anything from Ryanair.

Same, but GF passport expired in Sep we only noticed earlier this week.

coylemj

ShowMeTheCash wrote: »

Well northern Ireland is not part of Great Britain so there is a slight difference.

Great Britain is an island, not a country.

NI + GB = UK which is a country.

I'm not aware that Ryanair treats NI as anything other than an integral (if geographically separate) part of the UK.

ShowMeTheCash

coylemj wrote: »

Great Britain is an island, not a country.

NI + GB = UK which is a country.

I'm not aware that Ryanair treats NI as anything other than an integral (if geographically separate) part of the UK.

UK technically is a country in that it is a sovereign state.
But England, Scotland, Wales and NI are also considered countries.

As far as I am aware they do not teat it different either but NI is more complicated as there is an invisible boarder with Ireland.

Post Brexit they might treat it different.

Ardent

Doesn't matter what they say on live chat. You will be prevented from boarding the plane without a passport. I know from personal experience.

coylemj

Ardent wrote: »

Doesn't matter what they say on live chat. You will be prevented from boarding the plane without a passport. I know from personal experience.

Your 'personal experience' involved an attempt to travel from where to where? And what nationality are you?

We know that Polish and Latvian and lots of other nationalities can travel with their national identity cards so it simply is not true that you absolutely cannot fly with Ryanair without a passport.

coylemj

ShowMeTheCash wrote: »

UK technically is a country in that it is a sovereign state.
But England, Scotland, Wales and NI are also considered countries.

Yes they are but only by certain sports organisations. Travel between any two places in those four 'countries' is 'domestic UK' travel.

ShowMeTheCash wrote: »

As far as I am aware they do not teat it different either but NI is more complicated as there is an invisible border with Ireland.

If we're talking about unrestricted movement in both directions, there is also an 'invisible border' between France and Germany but they're still separate countries, or sovereign states if you prefer.

ShowMeTheCash

coylemj wrote: »

If we're talking about unrestricted movement in both directions, there is also an 'invisible border' between France and Germany but they're still separate countries, or sovereign states if you prefer.

True but the laws did not come in at the same time I think the main land euro laws only changed in 2012 I think, I remember walking from Germany to Poland and having to have my Passport but that was early 00's.

So back from the trip.

GF took her out of date passport and her Licence.
She gave them her Passport which expired in Sep on the flight out and on the return they did not notice. So I am really none the wiser what would of happened had she gave them her Drivers Licence.

coylemj

coylemj wrote: »

Your 'personal experience' involved an attempt to travel from where to where? And what nationality are you?

We know that Polish and Latvian and lots of other nationalities can travel with their national identity cards so it simply is not true that you absolutely cannot fly with Ryanair without a passport.

Try checking in online. The only document option is Passport. Without one, you cannot check in online, whatever about at the airport.

ShowMeTheCash

Deleted User wrote: »

Try checking in online. The only document option is Passport. Without one, you cannot check in online, whatever about at the airport.

Not true.