Scirocco discontinued

Roger Mellie Man on the Telly

Pity

https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/motors/vw-lets-the-scirocco-blow-away-1.3257537

GustavoFring

They're a nice car but have been past their sell by date for a long time.

Toyotafanboi

Yeah, a good looking car in fairness but they are little more than a Mk5 Golf in a fancy dress, surprising they made it this far. Maybe they sell in better volumes elsewhere but they never did great here even with a diesel offering.

DaveyDave

I've seen quite a few 2017 models lately, it doesn't seem to be a very popular car but they must have known for a while as they seem to have pushed sales for them. Or maybe that's just me?

A friend had to get hers from the UK a few years ago, I'm amazed people would buy one since it's a MK5 Golf, it was outdated even when it went on sale and that was 8 years ago. It baffles me seeing so many 2017 models when it's such an old platform.

elperello

News for the day that's in it.

Named for a wind and word of it's demise comes to us on the day of a hurricane.

The later versions never quite matched up to the Giugiaro designed MK1.
They were a pretty sharp design for the 70's.

freddieot

The uncle had one in the 70s. He rebuilt the engine himself and it was a brilliant car.

VW had a chance to recapture the Scirocco spirit with the new one but there was never anything special about the new version. I could never understand why anyone would choose one over a Golf, or most other cars for that matter.

tossy

elperello wrote: »

News for the day that's in it.

Named for a wind and word of it's demise comes to us on the day of a hurricane.

The later versions never quite matched up to the Giugiaro designed MK1.
They were a pretty sharp design for the 70's.

Its far from the only Vw car named after a wind, they are mad for the wind!

colm_mcm

Can of worms here, but was the scirocco actually dramatically better than a mk1 Golf? I just think it was an interesting alternative. Much the same as the outgoing Scirocco was.

elperello

colm_mcm wrote: »

Can of worms here, but was the scirocco actually dramatically better than a mk1 Golf? I just think it was an interesting alternative. Much the same as the outgoing Scirocco was.

Same designer and TBH if he thought it was a sportier alternative and worth putting his name to I'd say ok.
Would you argue with a cv like this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giorgetto_Giugiaro

maddness

It looked like a van

elperello

maddness wrote: »

It looked like a van

In 1974 this was a van -

https://www.pinterest.ie/pin/318489004882074680/

Spot the difference -

https://www.speeddoctor.net/2011/volkswagen-scirocco-mk1-1974-81/

liam7831

Totally overpriced too second hand

colm_mcm

elperello wrote: »

Same designer and TBH if he thought it was a sportier alternative and worth putting his name to I'd say ok.
Would you argue with a cv like this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giorgetto_Giugiaro

Don’t think you’re getting my original point, which was that the mk1 Scirocco was quite ordinary, so the outgoing model is quite true to the original.

dr.fuzzenstein

Don't know what everyone is moaning about.
The VW Karman Ghia was a flattened Beetle. The MK1 Scirocco was a flattened Golf. So is the current Scirocco.
If you want to oversimplify the principle like that, they're all meh.
But they all are design classics. All striking looking (MKII Scirocco was the most meh). And also the current Scirocco. It's all just "oh but they were so much better in the good old days!" moaning that is so prevalent today.

dr.fuzzenstein

Don't know what everyone is moaning about.
The VW Karman Ghia was a flattened Beetle. The MK1 Scirocco was a flattened Golf. So is the current Scirocco.
If you want to oversimplify the principle like that, they're all meh.
But they all are design classics. All striking looking (MKII Scirocco was the most meh). And also the current Scirocco. It's all just "oh but they were so much better in the good old days!" moaning that is so prevalent today.

gctest50

elperello wrote: »

In 1974 this was a van -

https://www.pinterest.ie/pin/318489004882074680/

Spot the difference -

https://www.speeddoctor.net/2011/volkswagen-scirocco-mk1-1974-81/

Scirocco Van (was) available from factory

http://website.lineone.net/~dr.dub/scirocco_van.htm

colm_mcm

gctest50 wrote: »

Scirocco Van (was) available from factory

http://website.lineone.net/~dr.dub/scirocco_van.htm

Only in Ireland eh..


Wait


Denmark used to have a 105-180% tax on new cars. I’d imagine this was a dodge of some sort.

gctest50

They would've been a best seller here if they came with the optional Lister diesel

737max

All the coupes are gone.
No scirooco, no megane coupe, astra coupe is still the astra j bodyshell and won't be replaced. proceeds(going), i30 coupes. all gone.
I won't have a new replacement coupe to buy and I'm actually in the market for a new one.
Audi will sell me a diesel TT or bmw 2-series with zero extras for silly money but isn't what I want.

ToxicPaddy

737max wrote: »

All the coupes are gone.
No scirooco, no megane coupe, astra coupe is still the astra j bodyshell and won't be replaced. proceeds, i30 coupes. all gone.
I won't have a new replacement coupe to buy and I'm actually in the market for a new one.
Audi will sell me a diesel TT or bmw 2-series with zero extras for silly money but isn't what I want.

Insurance companies are looking for silly money on coupes which is putting people off. Think about how many BMW 3 series coupes were on the road in the 90s and up to the mid 2000s, now it's rare to see new model ones. The same goes for the A5 coupe. Appears to have died a death, more people opting for the a5 5 door model.

TTs aren't selling in big numbers, smaller coupes have disappeared too, such as the Renault Megane and the Opel Astra coupes.

Maybe it's an Irish thing, there seem to be plenty still in the UK though.

colm_mcm

737max wrote: »

All the coupes are gone.
No scirooco, no megane coupe, astra coupe is still the astra j bodyshell and won't be replaced. proceeds(going), i30 coupes. all gone.
I won't have a new replacement coupe to buy and I'm actually in the market for a new one.
Audi will sell me a diesel TT or bmw 2-series with zero extras for silly money but isn't what I want.

They were never coupes anyway, just 3 door hatchbacks and marketing.

737max

They were what I wanted to buy. Marketing these days appears to be to ram a soft-roader down your throat or a flattened fleet saloon.

Dartz

People don't want cars

They want harmless unobtrosive appliances they rent for a few years until the PcP fairy comes around

elperello

Marketing seems to have worked for Scirocco anyway they sold about 500,000 mk1's.

I just think they were a very nice car.
I think they looked good in 1974 and still do today.

Compared to some of the offerings today ie: Nissan Joke, Toyota CHR they were pure class.
German engineering in an Ital Design body what's not to love?

Greybottle

LIGHTNING wrote: »

Every single one I saw in Ireland was a Diesel and have a spec level from the early 1990's.

30% of all Scirocco's on donedeal are petrol.

I knew owners, or lived near 5 of them, all had leather, A/C and upgraded alloys. Just flicking through DD they almost all have leather and A/C and the usual other bits and bobs, so no idea where the "dayzul Paddy-Spec" stuff is coming from.

On mobile.de, the largest 2nd hand site in Germany, 72% are petrol. 28% diesel. 16% have leather, 16% have half leather.

elperello

Greybottle wrote: »

30% of all Scirocco's on donedeal are petrol.

I knew owners, or lived near 5 of them, all had leather, A/C and upgraded alloys. Just flicking through DD they almost all have leather and A/C and the usual other bits and bobs, so no idea where the "dayzul Paddy-Spec" stuff is coming from.

On mobile.de, the largest 2nd hand site in Germany, 72% are petrol. 28% diesel. 16% have leather, 16% have half leather.

Most of the "dayzul Paddy- Spec" moaners don't buy new cars at all. They want someone else to bank-roll a high spec motor so they can buy it 5-10 years later.

Toyotafanboi

737max wrote: »

astra coupe is still the astra j bodyshell and won't be replaced. proceeds(going), i30 coupes.

Fun fact, the only items of bodywork that the Astra J Coupe shares with the Astra 5 door are the door handles and the fake antenna, every other panel/ lamp and glass is individual to the Coupe.

Not a bad looking car but mediocre in every other sense, not a bad roll of the dice by GM overall though.

737max

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

Fun fact, the only items of bodywork that the Astra J Coupe shares with the Astra 5 door are the door handles and the fake antenna, every other panel/ lamp and glass is individual to the Coupe.

Not a bad looking car but mediocre in every other sense, not a bad roll of the dice by GM overall though.

I'm buying a new car in a country with no year number in the plate. while I'm not a plate snob I don't want to be driving a car which will be mistaken as having being sold in the last decade ...and times move on and newer cars are usually dynamically better

Cookie_Monster

Just wait 18 months, they'll jack it up, slap a new name on it and you'll have a Sciroco SUV. Since that apparently the only vehicle type anyone wants anymore...

737max

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

Just wait 18 months, they'll jack it up, slap a new name on it and you'll have a Sciroco SUV. Since that apparently the only vehicle type anyone wants anymore...

you are probably half-right. I'd guess they have a new Small SUV model waiting to go on that production line.

737max

I was right

T-Roc

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Autoeuropa

elperello

https://www.google.ie/search?q=scirocco+btcc&tbm=isch&source=iu&pf=m&ictx=1&fir=W8X2G6qeAmsEKM%253A%252CmB808M0Ub7wPRM%252C_&usg=__Whk3ZzcsF01LVbtlBQkYNN0Nbs0%3D&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwii9LafjfbWAhWnAsAKHWj6CMgQ9QEIKjAB&biw=1366&bih=637#imgrc=L7p7md2G3_dXUM:

And I suppose this is a hot flush!

gctest50

737max wrote: »

you are probably half-right. I'd guess they have a new Small SUV model waiting to go on that production line.

They have form for that sorta craic, behold the Golf Country :

tossy

LIGHTNING wrote: »

Says the ex-Hyundai coupe driver :pac:

I really like the Scirocco and have considered one on a few occasions, it was just the fact it lacked things like the auto handbrake etc and the interior was too similar to my mk5 golf that always put me off. I had hoped they would do an updated version based on the latest golf, keeping the exterior similar but with the new interior but its obviously not to be. A real pity.

JoeA3

LIGHTNING wrote: »

Ohh leather, AC and alloys!! My 32 year old coupe has that. My point is every one I saw including the two I tested a VW garages had a wall of blank switch covers on the dash, with cloth seats, no sat nav, no upgraded dash. I was looking to get one but the paddy spec put me off.

Main thing that let it down was it is/was still based on the MK5 Golf platform. So even if it was well appointed spec-wise, it felt old and cramped compared to a MK7 Golf.

They facelifted it about 18 months ago, giving it some kit to make it look more like the MK7-gen cars but it was very half arsed as the MK5 platform simply cannot support some of the newer tech (auto handbrake, adaptive cruise, new generation Nav units, etc). So it was either replace it with an all-new model or dump it. VW have just brought out the "T-Roc", which is basically a jacked up Golf / smaller Tiguan, so it seems thats the market they're more interested in now.

They were very popular for a few years in the UK at least, and not only among middle aged divorcee's. There's even a dedicated owners/enthusiasts forum with a healthy membership last time I looked...