Ophelia Transport Disruption

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blackwave

If Dublin ends up having a red warning how likely is it for Dublin Bus to stop as the storm looks likely to be at it's worst for the evening commute?

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blackwave wrote: »

If Dublin ends up having a red warning how likely is it for Dublin Bus to stop as the storm looks likely to be at it's worst for the evening commute?

I would strongly suggest keeping an eye on the Dublin Bus website and twitter feed.

MJohnston

Real danger here of the morning Dublin commute going smoothly and the evening commute being an utter disaster. The various transport operators ought to be a tad more proactive, even if it's just outlining the conditions under which they'll suspend operations. Right now, Irish Rail for example seem to just be reacting to whatever happens, hoping a tree doesn't fall on a DART line somewhere.

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Update from Irish Rail

The Following Services will not run:
- Limerick Junction to Waterford
- Limerick to Ballybrophy via Nenagh

A speed restriction of 80kph (50mph) will be in place on the following routes:
- Tralee to Mallow
- Cork to Charleville
- Cork to Cobh/Midleton
- Waterford to Kilkenny
- Rosslare Europort to Gorey

Delays of 15 to 30 minutes are expected to services operating on the following routes:
- Cork to Dublin
- Tralee to Cork/Dublin
- Waterford to Dublin
- Rosslare Europort to Dublin

magicbastarder

met eireann have upgraded the weather warning to a nationwide red. will be interesting to see how transport companies respond.

punisher5112

magicbastarder wrote: »

met eireann have upgraded the weather warning to a nationwide red. will be interesting to see how transport companies respond.

Oh wow so its going to be bad.

magicbastarder

i guess the modelling was not definitive for most of the rest of the country before now. i read somewhere they're more in the period now of 'nowcasting' rather than 'forecasting'.

posy2010

Can a Luas operate in high winds? Dreading getting home more than anything

magicbastarder

i don't think they've tested the luas in dublin in some of the winds expected...

posy2010

magicbastarder wrote: »

i don't think they've tested the luas in dublin in some of the winds expected...

Ha yeah - prob a stupid question from me!

Hilly Bill

MJohnston wrote: »

Real danger here of the morning Dublin commute going smoothly and the evening commute being an utter disaster. The various transport operators ought to be a tad more proactive, even if it's just outlining the conditions under which they'll suspend operations. Right now, Irish Rail for example seem to just be reacting to whatever happens, hoping a tree doesn't fall on a DART line somewhere.

That's all that they can do, best to keep moving unless it's unsafe to do so.

So... what are the chances of the DARTs all being cancelled by tomorrow evening? I'm afraid I'll get into the office but will have no way of getting home.

magicbastarder

i would guess that hey have a good idea of what sort of effect a crosswind would have on the luas - i suppose it'd be most exposed on the green line out south of sandyford.

Jamie2k9

TBH dispute a red warning, I don't think it be as bad in Dublin as predicted in terms of winds. Bound to weaken as it comes overland.

magicbastarder

the winds will be coastal though, from what i can see:

Violent and destructive gusts are forecast with all areas at risk and in particular the southwest and south in the morning, and eastern counties in the afternoon.

MJohnston

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

TBH dispute a red warning, I don't think it be as bad in Dublin as predicted in terms of winds. Bound to weaken as it comes overland.

The winds aren't coming overland.

punisher5112

Be prepared for dart to fail as very likely power lines will go down also trees and other debry may hamper services.

Db will be out in service no matter what.

Trains will run unless trees are down or severe floods.

Bus eireann will still run most services but school runs are all off.

It will be an interesting day seeing bins etc flying all around.

punisher5112

Charge phones tonight and be prepared for power outages.

loyatemu

I'm staying home, I think it's very likely the Dart will have problems in the afternoon and don't fancy being stranded in town.

punisher5112

loyatemu wrote: »

I'm staying home, I think it's very likely the Dart will have problems in the afternoon and don't fancy being stranded in town.

Bus

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Following Bus Eireann trips cancelled

350 Galway Ennis 08:00, 10:00, 13:00
350 Ennis Galway 12:30, 14:30, 17:30
350 Lisdoonvarna Galway 07:45
350 Galway Lisdoonvarna 18:00
417 Corofin Galway 07:45
417 Galway Corofin 18:15
419 Clifden Galway 09:00
419 Galway Clifden 18:15
424 Carna Galway 07:15
424 Galway Carna 17:00
424 Lettermullen Galway 08:25
424 Galway Lettermullen 16:30
424 Carraroe Galway 07:00
424 Galway Carraroe 15:00
434 Gort Galway 07:30
434 Galway Gort 17:30
425 Longford Galway 08:45
425 Galway Longford 16:25
425A Mountbellew Galway 06:40
425A Galway Mountbellew 16:20
429 Castlerea Galway 09:40
429 Galway Castlerea 17:45
456 Cong Galway 07:10
456 Galway Cong 17:40

Hilly Bill

Miguel Repulsive Frisbee wrote: »

So... what are the chances of the DARTs all being cancelled by tomorrow evening? I'm afraid I'll get into the office but will have no way of getting home.

It's a strong possibility on the southsjde ,, possible damage to overhead wires and flooding or you might get away. With a bit of signal failure. It has a habit of happening at peak times. I wouldn't be surprised of a delay somewhere on the maynooth /sligo line due to a tree on the line and the Rosslare only going as far as Gorey.
Cork station's new roof might end up in the car park.

Del.Monte

Always look on the bright side of life. As a bonus the storm seems to be tearing a path through Dromod County Leitrim.

monument

punisher5112 wrote: »

Db will be out in service no matter what.

Do you think buses 4.4 metre tall are safe driving around in winds of around 100km/h?

Forecast for Dublin shows gusts of winds of:

• 70km/h+ after 10am
• 89km/h after 1pm
• 85km/h around 2pm and 4pm
• 98km/h at around 5pm
• 93km/h around 4pm and 9pm
• etc

And it's worth noting that Ophelia strengthened on Saturday when it was expected to weaken at that point.

magentis

monument wrote: »

Do you think buses 15 metres tall are safe driving around in winds of around 100km/h?

Forecast for Dublin shows gusts of winds of:

• 70km/h+ after 10am
• 89km/h after 1pm
• 85km/h around 2pm and 4pm
• 98km/h at around 5pm
• 93km/h around 4pm and 9pm
• etc

And it's worth noting that Ophelia strengthened on Saturday when it was expected to weaken at that point.

15 metre tall buses?That would be a sight to behold.

Losty Dublin

Irish Rail have sent out an emergency working timetable amendment. All services between Waterford and Limerick Junction and Ballybrophy and Limerick are cancelled entirely tomorrow.

The following services will have a temporary maximum speed limit of 50MPH imposed for Monday 16th October.

• Midleton/Cobh to Cork,
• Cork to Charleville,
• Mallow to Tralee,
• Kilkenny to Waterford,
• Rosslare Europort to Gorey.

Delays are inevitable on all services operating on these sections. I appreciate that this was posted on the top post but it is worth repeating in it's own post.

monument

magentis wrote: »

15 metre tall buses?That would be a sight to behold.

Yes... corrected now... :pac:

thomasj

All bus eireann services cancelled for 5am until 2pm tomorrow

To be reviewed tomorrow morning

MJohnston

All Bus Eireann services nationwide suspended until 2pm at least, when they'll review the situation.

rebel456

Any word on Dublin Bus? Anyone here on the inside? They finally sent a tweet but it was more of a 'we don't know what to do so just letting you know we're here'.

devnull

Latest on Dublin Bus is as the first post:

Due to the RED weather alert issued by Met Éireann for the Greater Dublin Area this evening, Dublin Bus is considering the implications of this for our services tomorrow, Monday 16 October, and is taking advice from Met Éireann and the National Emergency Coordination Committee.

I would expect an announcement shortly based on that.

Jamie2k9

MJohnston wrote: »

All Bus Eireann services nationwide suspended until 2pm at least, when they'll review the situation.

This is ridiculous, yes by all means suspend S/W services until 2pm but is there really a justification to not operate a lot of other services in the morning when there will be no impact.

Stephen15

TFI reporting DB will be operating full service tommorrow until 9am limited service from then until 6.

rebel456

Stephen15 wrote: »

TFI reporting DB will be operating full service tommorrow until 9am limited service from then until 6.

Makes sense, given the major impact on Dublin will be in the afternoon time. BÉ should really have run pre-9am Dublin commuter services too. In any case it will be business as usual for me tomorrow!

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Latest Update from DB

Morning peak services are expected to operate as normal. There will be significant disruption to services from 09.00 to 18.00. This may include no
services being available during this time.

We hope to return services to normal after 18.00. However, customers should be aware that services may experience delays and disruptions to service as service levels will be dependent on weather conditions.

ben.schlomo

Are BE city services also cancelled or is it just intercity etc.

MJohnston

ben.schlomo wrote: »

Are BE city services also cancelled or is it just intercity etc.

They said 'all services' so I would assume that means everything they operate.

positron

Of all days of the year, tomorrow is the day I have to be in Dublin. Sigh!! Matthews Coaches says they are operating tomorrow, and a lot of concerned folks trying tp change that on their Facebook page.

I might end up having to drive tomorrow; on the plus side roads should be quiet.

devnull

All Wexford Bus services cancelled for tomorrow morning

https://www.facebook.com/WexfordBus/posts/10155820578504680

magicbastarder

devnull wrote: »

Latest Update from DB

not very useful. it's basically them saying 'uhh... maybe?'

monument

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

This is ridiculous, yes by all means suspend S/W services until 2pm but is there really a justification to not operate a lot of other services in the morning when there will be no impact.

rebel456 wrote: »

Makes sense, given the major impact on Dublin will be in the afternoon time. Bshould really have run pre-9am Dublin commuter services too. In any case it will be business as usual for me tomorrow!

As already posted, this is the wind gust strength for Dublin tomorrow:

• 70km/h+ after 10am
• 89km/h after 1pm
• 85km/h around 2pm and 4pm
• 98km/h at around 5pm
• 93km/h around 4pm and 9pm
• etc

Are people going to wait in work until after 9pm? Because -- according to the current forecast -- it only gets worse from 10am onwards and only starts to die down after 9pm.

Jamie2k9

monument wrote: »

As already posted, this is the wind gust strength for Dublin tomorrow:

• 70km/h+ after 10am
• 89km/h after 1pm
• 85km/h around 2pm and 4pm
• 98km/h at around 5pm
• 93km/h around 4pm and 9pm
• etc

Are people going to wait in work until after 9pm? Because -- according to the current forecast -- it only gets worse from 10am onwards and only starts to die down after 9pm.

and before 10am......

There is no excuse not to operate services like DB are.

NTA need to cut them for every service they fail to run up to 10.00 or whenever it becomes "un safe" to run services.

defrule

monument wrote: »

As already posted, this is the wind gust strength for Dublin tomorrow:

• 70km/h+ after 10am
• 89km/h after 1pm
• 85km/h around 2pm and 4pm
• 98km/h at around 5pm
• 93km/h around 4pm and 9pm
• etc

Are people going to wait in work until after 9pm? Because -- according to the current forecast -- it only gets worse from 10am onwards and only starts to die down after 9pm.

Can you link me to where those numbers come from?

I'm considering going down from Belfast to work but if winds are going to be like that there is a good chance DB will cancel and I will be stranded in office after work.

rebel456

monument wrote: »

Are people going to wait in work until after 9pm? Because -- according to the current forecast -- it only gets worse from 10am onwards and only starts to die down after 9pm.

That's up to folks for themselves to decide when to leave work. I'll probably wait til after 7 personally. DB should be recommencing services post 6pm. It also disregards those who will be making single journeys that morning into Dublin and not needing an evening return - i.e. those who stay in Dub Mon-Fri, or on the way to the airport for morning flights that will be able to leave.

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magicbastarder wrote: »

not very useful. it's basically them saying 'uhh... maybe?'

They've since made a further update.

IE 222

Need to remember everybody including bus and train drivers are advised to stay indoors tomorrow so I wouldn't be suprised if loads of services are cancelled due to drivers not travelling to work.

Jamie2k9

IE 222 wrote: »

Need to remember everybody including bus and train drivers are advised to stay indoors tomorrow so I wouldn't be suprised if loads of services are cancelled due to drivers not travelling to work.

Don't train drivers stay in doors all the time!

IE staff got a memo which detailed the temp speed restrictions similar to what was copied to the website.

IE 222

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

and before 10am......

There is no excuse not to operate services like DB are.

NTA need to cut them for every service they fail to run up to 10.00 or whenever it becomes "un safe" to run services.

Are you serious

IE 222

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

Don't train drivers stay in doors all the time!

IE staff got a memo which detailed the temp speed restrictions similar to what was copied to the website.

Well if they have a covered passageway from their front door to the depot i guess they do stay indoors. Just because you want to ignore critical safety advise been issued over travel doesn't mean you should expect other to ignore it in order to transport you from A to B.