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Land Steward

  • 13-10-2017 11:21am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166 ✭✭


    Hi All,

    My great (x3) grandfather, John Haydan's, occupation is listed as a Land Steward on some of his daughters marriage certificates in 1870's. I assume this means that he collected rents from tenant farmers and was involved in the running of an estate and evictions. (The rest of us are lovely - I swear!!).

    Does anyone have any idea how I could trace him further? I'd love to know which estate he was involved in. I don't know much more about John other than that his family were born in Carlow and one of his daughters married in Scotland. His family seemed to settle in Dublin eventually. All ideas welcome!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,777 ✭✭✭shanew


    One of my ancestors was a land Steward - I found several mentions of him in newspapers, one in the 1840s when he was shot at and this named his employer, and several later listings where he was the contact named on jobs adverts for a blacksmith for an estate in North Dublin.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,108 ✭✭✭pedroeibar1


    As Shanew suggests the newspapers are your best bet. There is an article on either the NUI Maynooth site or askabout Ireland by Dr Terence A.M. Dooley entitled 'Estate ownership and management in nineteenth and early twentieth-century Ireland' that is a brief read. A 19th c book 'Realities of Irish Life' by Trench is another, and free online.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166 ✭✭Whereisgerry?


    shanew wrote: »
    One of my ancestors was a land Steward - I found several mentions of him in newspapers, one in the 1840s when he was shot at and this named his employer, and several later listings where he was the contact named on jobs adverts for a blacksmith for an estate in North Dublin.

    Thanks Shane! How did you search newspapers? I've tried irish news archive but I'm reluctant to use them again as I couldn't manage to end the subscription (even though I had selected not to renew on set up) and they over charged me. I had to speak to my bank to stop them taking further funds from my account!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166 ✭✭Whereisgerry?


    As Shanew suggests the newspapers are your best bet. There is an article on either the NUI Maynooth site or askabout Ireland by Dr Terence A.M. Dooley entitled 'Estate ownership and management in nineteenth and early twentieth-century Ireland' that is a brief read. A 19th c book 'Realities of Irish Life' by Trench is another, and free online.

    Thanks Pedro! I'll check your suggestions out.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,708 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    Also a book by Dr Ciaran J O'Reilly on land stewarts would surely be of interest.

    http://historicirishhouses.ie/people/dr-ciar%C3%A1n-reilly

    Genealogy Forum Mod



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,777 ✭✭✭shanew


    Thanks Shane! How did you search newspapers? I've tried irish news archive but I'm reluctant to use them again as I couldn't manage to end the subscription (even though I had selected not to renew on set up) and they over charged me. I had to speak to my bank to stop them taking further funds from my account!

    I started with newspapers on microfilm in the NLI in the King's County Chronicle - I was looking for a paper close to where I knew he lived. It proved very useful and included the story on the shooting, which I'd never heard before, and articles on news of the potato blight and various remedies.. afair Copper Sulphate was mentioned. I later found the shooting story copied to various English papers through the BritishNewArchive online. The Dublin articles I located in Freeman's Journal on the IrishNewArchives website.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,943 ✭✭✭tabbey


    Thanks Shane! How did you search newspapers? I've tried irish news archive but I'm reluctant to use them again as I couldn't manage to end the subscription (even though I had selected not to renew on set up) and they over charged me. I had to speak to my bank to stop them taking further funds from my account!

    You may read irishnewsarchive free in most public libraries, so far as I know. I generally use DCL&A but the computers there seem slower than some other libraries, so have recently used local authority libraries.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166 ✭✭Whereisgerry?


    Thanks a million Shane. I'll pop into my local library and see what I can find.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,490 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    Similar to a land stewart on my tree he might also be mentioned in the local Petty Sessions available at Find My Past.

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166 ✭✭Whereisgerry?


    Thanks Hermy! That's a good idea. I'll try FMP also.


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