Aviation & Aircraft moderation

KCAccidental

I wish to discuss the unbalanced moderation in Aviation & Aircraft.

This post by CoisFharraige was posted on the Ryanair thread a couple of days ago. I reported it for inflammatory and possible defamatory posting, mainly for the statement about the IALPA.

My parents used to own a well-known post-production media company here. They are lovely people, a lovely businessman and woman, and they did very well. The staff absolutely loved working there, were paid well and on time, had days off whenever they had family business (within reason), and all the normal entitlements anybody would expect. They had a very large workforce when compared with other similar post-prod companies.
The biggest project they ever undertook had a budget well into the many millions of €. They hired in 100s of extras, extra cameramen - the lot. These new crew brought with them some horrible union reps one day, and asked to come onto the live-set. They were granted access, and submitted complaints because they didn't have a health and safety rep for some random section which in some loophole they found was needed because the crews weren't from the company, and weren't familiar with procedures. The union shut the whole set down, the project crashed, and the company lost millions and millions of €. Shy of 50 workers were left without a job within a month.

Unions, in the words of my father, 'are a load of f*cking b*ll*cks'. The reps are the whingiest people you can ever meet when they're looking for such unnecessary things, you'd wonder why on earth some of the IALPA reps are more eager to negotiate than the FR drivers themselves, and APA? That's a another story...

Of course people need representatives, but I wish some of the APA and IALPA representatives would get their heads out of the very high cloud ceiling and into the bloody cockpit. They do not have the FR guys' needs in their heads, they want to screw over any company they can get at.

If only Michael was good to the pilots and set a bit of an example to management. I wish he would be able to realise that he could be so proud with a drop in profits, yet still own the largest airline in the world, and knowing his pilots are some of the best out there (which they are), are getting home safe to their families every night in a base that isn't as far away from their home as possible. It would be the best airline to work for, without a shadow of a doubt.

not only was my report ignored twice, but the post was thanked by an A&A moderator and another moderator from commuting & transport.

My reply to CoisFharraige on the other hand was immediately deleted and I received a ban for defamatory posting. My post was based completely on information given in the anti-union anecdote, just having a different viewpoint on the story.

my post:

Originally Posted by KCAccidental

Originally Posted by CoisFharraige
My parents used to own a well-known post-production media company here. They are lovely people, a lovely businessman and woman, and they did very well. The staff absolutely loved working there, were paid well and on time, had days off whenever they had family business (within reason), and all the normal entitlements anybody would expect. They had a very large workforce when compared with other similar post-prod companies.
The biggest project they ever undertook had a budget well into the many millions of €. They hired in 100s of extras, extra cameramen - the lot. These new crew brought with them some horrible union reps one day, and asked to come onto the live-set. They were granted access, and submitted complaints because they didn't have a health and safety rep for some random section which in some loophole they found was needed because the crews weren't from the company, and weren't familiar with procedures. The union shut the whole set down, the project crashed, and the company lost millions and millions of €. Shy of 50 workers were left without a job within a month.
Translation: My parents company were cutting costs by failing to comply with Health & Safety regulation on set and were punished for it.

Perhaps if they had complied with the law in the first place they wouldn't have cost those jobs.

I work in production and the battle for proper health & Safety on shoots is well needed. Cost cutting leads to injury and deaths.

http://nypost.com/2015/03/09/movie-d...d-crew-member/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twilight_Zone_accident

So my question is, if my post is defamatory, how is CoisFharraige's not?

Beasty

Your so called "translation" accused someone of breaking Health and Safety rules when the post you were referring to made no such statement.

You initially (and quite rightly) received a red card for commenting on the quality of modding in thread. You then received a ban for the above. These posts were made just over 30 mins after a CMod had stepped in to warn posters to rein it in and specifically to remain civil, which you clearly failed to do. I am therefore seeing no merit in your complaint

Beasty

I have moved this from Feedback as it is not feedback on the site but a specific complaint about moderation and such complaints are dealt with in Help Desk

KCAccidental

Beasty wrote: »

Your so called "translation" accused someone of breaking Health and Safety rules when the post you were referring to made no such statement.

You initially (and quite rightly) received a red card for commenting on the quality of modding in thread. You then received a ban for the above. These posts were made just over 30 mins after a CMod had stepped in to warn posters to rein it in and specifically to remain civil, which you clearly failed to do. I am therefore seeing no merit in your complaint

Cois Fharriage's post accused union members of intentionally finding loopholes to close a production down as well as the IALPA being out to destroy companies.

I fail to see how there is no merit in my complaint. At the very least it's unbalanced moderation.

KCAccidental

Beasty wrote: »

Your so called "translation" accused someone of breaking Health and Safety rules when the post you were referring to made no such statement.

are you sure about that Beasty?

The biggest project they ever undertook had a budget well into the many millions of €. They hired in 100s of extras, extra cameramen - the lot. These new crew brought with them some horrible union reps one day, and asked to come onto the live-set. They were granted access, and submitted complaints because they didn't have a health and safety rep for some random section which in some loophole they found was needed because the crews weren't from the company, and weren't familiar with procedures.

This clearly states the company weren't compliant with Health & Safety rules after hiring on extra crew.

I ask for fairness that's all and consistently it's being denied