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Rubbathan

  • 06-10-2017 8:45am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 224 ✭✭


    Hey, I've just come across the rarest family name to come my way in my research. "Rubbathan". There is only one family recorded in our 1911 census and only a few records in the UK. Has anyone seen this name or know where it may have originated from? Thanks!


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,708 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    Can you post a link to the family?
    I can't find them on the 1911 on the main census site.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 224 ✭✭Elizabetha


    pinkypinky wrote: »
    Can you post a link to the family?
    I can't find them on the 1911 on the main census site.
    Sorry pinky... I spelled it wrong, Rubbathan


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,708 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    There's another family spelling it with one B.

    This family comes from the UK.

    Several entries in the civil records too, but it does look quite rare.
    It would make an interesting one name study.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 224 ✭✭Elizabetha


    pinkypinky wrote: »
    There's another family spelling it with one B.

    This family comes from the UK.

    Several entries in the civil records too, but it does look quite rare.
    It would make an interesting one name study.

    Oh yes I see that family, this name has me intrigued....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,323 ✭✭✭Kalimah


    http://www.sfhs.org.uk/forum/rubbathan

    Seems to be a Shropshire name.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 224 ✭✭Elizabetha


    Elizabetha wrote: »
    Oh yes I see that family, this name has me intrigued....
    Pinky, the family who spells it with just one b, the head of family is only 24 and has an 8 year old child and is 9years married, most likely a mistake with the census?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,142 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Elizabetha wrote: »
    Pinky, the family who spells it with just one b, the head of family is only 24 and has an 8 year old child and is 9years married, most likely a mistake with the census?

    Its a transcription error; look at the image and its clearly 34. I've already reported it so no need to flood poor John Grenham with multiple reports!


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,708 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    If you look at the actual image, I'd say it's a mistranscription. He's 34 not 24.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 224 ✭✭Elizabetha


    L1011 wrote: »
    Its a transcription error; look at the image and its clearly 34. I've already reported it so no need to flood poor John Grenham with multiple reports!

    Thought that might be the case, for some reason my tablet won't let me see the image, thanks pinky, thanks L1011


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,708 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    Birth of one of their kids is down as Rubothan. Shows her birth name was Johnston.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 224 ✭✭Elizabetha


    pinkypinky wrote: »
    Birth of one of their kids is down as Rubothan. Shows her birth name was Johnston.

    Oh yes... I see that now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,943 ✭✭✭tabbey


    Kalimah wrote: »
    http://www.sfhs.org.uk/forum/rubbathan

    Seems to be a Shropshire name.

    The Shropshire forum suggests it came from Montgomery,Mid Wales.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45 tenterfields


    Coming to this a little late. I have researched the family in the first image posted by pinkypinky. The father's age is, indeed, a mistranscription. He was born in December 1876. The other mistranscription is that the family spelled the name Rubotham on the census form. As I understand it, the latter is the spelling used by the living descendants. It is a name prone to mistranscription and/or alternative spellings. In the transcriptions on irishgenealogy.ie of the civil birth records for five of the children of that family, the surname is spelled five different ways - Rubotham, Rubitham, Rhubotham, Rheebotham and Rhubottam (though the actual register images show only two spellings, viz. Rubotham and Rhubotham). The name may originate in Shropshire but this family can be traced in Dublin back to 1844, at least, and Rubothams (in various variants) appear in the National Library Catholic baptism registers as far back as the 1750s and 1760s.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 224 ✭✭Elizabetha


    Coming to this a little late. I have researched the family in the first image posted by pinkypinky. The father's age is, indeed, a mistranscription. He was born in December 1876. The other mistranscription is that the family spelled the name Rubotham on the census form. As I understand it, the latter is the spelling used by the living descendants. It is a name prone to mistranscription and/or alternative spellings. In the transcriptions on irishgenealogy.ie of the civil birth records for five of the children of that family, the surname is spelled five different ways - Rubotham, Rubitham, Rhubotham, Rheebotham and Rhubottam (though the actual register images show only two spellings, viz. Rubotham and Rhubotham). The name may originate in Shropshire but this family can be traced in Dublin back to 1844, at least, and Rubothams (in various variants) appear in the National Library Catholic baptism registers as far back as the 1750s and 1760s.

    Rhank you so much for this


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