Fireworks

JonnyM

Just chatting about fireworks and where you can get them up the north.
Lad said there was a factory/premises selling them in Enniskillen and it may have a mechanics garage attached or beside it does this ring any bells with anyone?

Any supermarkets selling them or is that just in the UK?

SEPT 23 1989

nice try copper

DodgerOfSheep

From what I've heard, they sell them on the side of the road once you cross the border; especially this time of year.

Der Stier

But can you take them back across the border ?

super_furry

You get them on Moore Street off the aul ones selling the chocalit baaaaaars.

BillyBobBS

Moore street, thomas street, chinese phone shops etc.. You don't have to go north. Fella knocks around here door to door every year selling them actually hasn't been around yet.

Grayson

walking home earlier this week and someone drove past me and threw a firework at me. Next time it happens I'll ask where they got them.

JonnyM

Grayson wrote: »

walking home earlier this week and someone drove past me and threw a firework at me. Next time it happens I'll ask where they got them.

Or just pick it up next time and see what it says on it.

Thanks

LordSutch

All Fireworks banned in the ROI since the late 60s.

Black market fireworks available at this time of year in Moore Street, Dublin (at a price)!

Only real way to get your hands on them is to travel up North & smuggle them back across the border, otherwise travel by ferry to Britain & fill up your car boot.

Good luck.

Sonics2k

And a fine day to you too, Garda.

murpho999

Der Stier wrote: »

But can you take them back across the border ?

They are illegal in Republic of Ireland so what do you think?

sbsquarepants

Der Stier wrote: »

But can you take them back across the border ?

You can fire them across. Only problem is they aren't up to much then when you collect them on the other side:D

Just stick them in the boot and drive home - it's not a bazooka you're buying, what exactly do you think is going to happen!

JonnyM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

nice try copper

You got me there. I'll have to set up another account... beware!!

Randle P. McMurphy

There is a reason they are banned here. I love it when one of you incondsiderate pricks lose your sight or worse. **** you and your fireworks.

RustyNut

Der Stier wrote: »

But can you take them back across the border ?

You can but it's illegal and customs will lift them off you if your caught.

GreeBo

Where is this customs or border you lads are all talking about?

McMurphy

LordSutch wrote: »

All Fireworks banned in the ROI since the late 60s.

Black market fireworks available at this time of year in Moore Street, Dublin (at a price)!

Only real way to get your hands on them is to travel up North & smuggle them back across the border, otherwise travel by ferry to Britain & fill up your car boot.

Good luck.

a car boot packed with fireworks on a ferry


Sure what could go wrong?

Tzardine

RustyNut wrote: »

You can but it's illegal and customs will lift them off you if your caught.

The law changed a while back too. They now have the power to seize your car.

Be warned.

JonnyM

Tzardine wrote: »

The law changed a while back too. They now have the power to seize your car.

Be warned.

There's no more room for any more guards in this thread!

JonnyM

Rick Shaw wrote: »

a car boot packed with fireworks on a ferry


Sure what could go wrong?

You could get a flat tyre and have to take all the fireworks out of the boot to get at the spare tyre and sure everybody would see you had fireworks then and want some.

the_syco

GreeBo wrote: »

Where is this customs or border you lads are all talking about?

https://goo.gl/maps/FKUfxWBu6uC2
When you cross the river, you've crossed the border.

=-=

OP, drive 5km past the border, get your fireworks, and drive back another route. If you come back the same route, you'll be stopped by the Gardai.

Also, if you buy fireworks near enough to the border, the Gardai will see you, and stop you when you come back into the Republic.

seamus

RustyNut wrote: »

You can but it's illegal and customs will lift them off you if your caught.

There are no systematic customs checks at the border. You'd have to be unlucky to be stopped. Even then if you keep the stuff in a sportsbag covered with clothes the chances of them bothering to go through your stuff is minimal. Customs only want to catch people with vans full of booze and boots filled with fireworks.

LordSutch wrote: »

Black market fireworks available at this time of year in Moore Street, Dublin (at a price)!

Are they still though? Certainly up to the 90s they were sold openly in the Moore St area and they were everywhere. Dublin on Halloween used sound like a warzone between 4pm and 2am.
The Gardai seemed to crack down on it then and there was very little fireworks on Halloween during the boom. Does seem to be making a bit of a comeback now.

GreeBo

the_syco wrote: »

https://goo.gl/maps/FKUfxWBu6uC2
When you cross the river, you've crossed the border.

=-=

OP, drive 5km past the border, get your fireworks, and drive back another route. If you come back the same route, you'll be stopped by the Gardai.

Also, if you buy fireworks near enough to the border, the Gardai will see you, and stop you when you come back into the Republic.

When was the last time you saw an actual border between the two countries rather than a geographical border?

There isnt even a feckin line on the ground anymore, never mind customs or Gardai.

Where are these Gardai that are going to watch what route people take and pull them over...because I've never seen them despite many trips up to Newry...maybe there were taking a break from hiding in the trees when I went by...or you could be scaremongering out your ar$e.

donegal_man

Friend told me he tried to buy some in a shop in Derry last year. The assistant asked for ID as proof of age and when he produced his driving licence informed him they weren't allowed to sell to people from "the south".

JonnyM

the_syco wrote: »

https://goo.gl/maps/FKUfxWBu6uC2
When you cross the river, you've crossed the border.

=-=

OP, drive 5km past the border, get your fireworks, and drive back another route. If you come back the same route, you'll be stopped by the Gardai.

Also, if you buy fireworks near enough to the border, the Gardai will see you, and stop you when you come back into the Republic.

Trolling level: Expert.

RasTa

I used to buy them from travelers in fairyhouse market then sell them on to the parents on my estate.

It was funny having grown men knock on the door of a 14 year old to buy the stuff

sbsquarepants

Randle P. McMurphy wrote: »

There is a reason they are banned here. I love it when one of you incondsiderate pricks lose your sight or worse. **** you and your fireworks.

It's funny though that those reasons don't apply in the north, or in the UK isn't it?
It's almost as if they aren't actually good reasons!

RustyNut

http://touch.boards.ie/thread/2055682785/1

super_furry

Randle P. McMurphy wrote: »

There is a reason they are banned here. I love it when one of you incondsiderate pricks lose your sight or worse. **** you and your fireworks.

Yeah whatever grandma. Guess who's gaff is getting egged.

LordSutch

Rick Shaw wrote: »

a car boot packed with fireworks on a ferry

Sure what could go wrong?

You could be unlucky, with Customs picking your car 'at random' to check.

Filled many a car boot with firework selection boxes back in my youff.

Might/might not take a trip across the border this year?

Would love my kids to experience them (from a distance).

A Battered Mars Bar

Lets see here. Quiet September. Ploughing championships. Illegal Fireworks everywhere just in time for October.

Say nutin

SEPT 23 1989

your car seized and a 3k fine

DodgerOfSheep

Randle P. McMurphy wrote: »

There is a reason they are banned here. I love it when one of you incondsiderate pricks lose your sight or worse. **** you and your fireworks.

Just because some idiots don't know how to handle fireworks doesn't mean the whole country shouldn't have access to them. They should be illegal for kids, but adults should be able to decide if they want to use them. I'd swear the irish government would try and ban sharp edges if they could.

BillyBobBS

Randle P. McMurphy wrote: »

There is a reason they are banned here. I love it when one of you incondsiderate pricks lose your sight or worse. **** you and your fireworks.

You sound like a lovely person.

the_syco

GreeBo wrote: »

When was the last time you saw an actual border between the two countries rather than a geographical border?

Was a few decades ago, when the UK army was at them.

GreeBo wrote: »

There isnt even a feckin line on the ground anymore, never mind customs or Gardai.

Pretty much the same when driving from France to Italy.

GreeBo wrote: »

Where are these Gardai that are going to watch what route people take and pull them over...because I've never seen them despite many trips up to Newry

https://goo.gl/maps/wUMKmL4VcLy
People would drive up in the two weeks before Halloween, get their fireworks at the first place that sold them off the R132/B113, and drive back. It was shooting fish in a barrel at the time, but don't know if it's still watched. If you went up at any other time apart from October, you'd be fine.

biko

You need to be a better border fox than Dessie O'Hare himself.

Nekarsulm

G C Battery Works,
Just off the Enniskillen to Belfast road, close to the Maguiresbridge junction.

Robert (or George) Coulter are the lads, they are the registered licenced dealer for Co. Fermanagh, and also has a company that puts on public displays, weddings etc.
100% legal to buy off him, you could buy by the pallet if you liked.

https://www.facebook.com/gcbatteryworks/

Illegal to bring back to the South though.
As with many things, banned here in case they were bought and used to make pipe bombs etc, and possibly used to overthrow the Government. (Ammonium Nitrate agri fertilizer is another such banned product)

Nekarsulm

JonnyM wrote: »

Just chatting about fireworks and where you can get them up the north.
Lad said there was a factory/premises selling them in Enniskillen and it may have a mechanics garage attached or beside it does this ring any bells with anyone?

Any supermarkets selling them or is that just in the UK?

See post above....

This Government page lists all Registered Licenced sellers in N.I. by county.

https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/articles/fireworks

freshpopcorn

I saw them for sale on facebook a few weeks ago. They were basically travelling around to different town and I think you met them in a car park.

corner of hells

Pro tip : don't set off fireworks while drunk.

A bloke I know got hit by a rocket that he set off while drunk.
I got burnt , I mean he got burnt on his face and ears were ringing for three days afterwards.

Vincent Vega

sbsquarepants wrote: »

You can fire them across. Only problem is they aren't up to much then when you collect them on the other side:D

The trick is to attach extra fuse, light them lying down.
Drive a hundred or so metres down the road in the car and be ready with a fire extinguisher.

Der Stier

murpho999 wrote: »

They are illegal in Republic of Ireland so what do you think?

Ah ! OK sorry, I am a German !

So I did not know these rules.

sheepo

I hate them. They terrify my dog. Last year we took her down to a relation's farm for the weekend so it wasn't too bad but they've started already in my area.

Ideally I'd set her on the little b*****ds setting them off in the estate but it'd probably be frowned upon by PC types.

PeterParker957

sheepo wrote: »

I hate them. They terrify my dog. Last year we took her down to a relation's farm for the weekend so it wasn't too bad but they've started already in my area.

Ideally I'd set her on the little b*****ds setting them off in the estate but it'd probably be frowned upon by PC types.

My lad gets nervy with the noises around Halloween.

Though treats calm him so it could easily be a trick!!!

dr.fuzzenstein

sheepo wrote: »

I hate them. They terrify my dog. Last year we took her down to a relation's farm for the weekend so it wasn't too bad but they've started already in my area.

Ideally I'd set her on the little b*****ds setting them off in the estate but it'd probably be frowned upon by PC types.

Be glad you don't live in Germany, new year's (or Silvester as its called here) it's like a warzone.
€133 million was spent on fireworks here last year.
My dogs aren't happy about it either, but what can you do, it's only one night.
It's probably better properly regulated, people buy fireworks that conform to safety standards and in a lot of towns there is a designated area to let them off.
The Irish solution as usual is to just ban it, ignore it and hope it goes away. Which never works.

Capt'n Midnight

RustyNut wrote: »

You can but it's illegal and customs will lift them off you if your caught.

And they can take your car too.

And enter your house without a warrant if they want.

dr.fuzzenstein

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

And they can take your car too.

And enter your house without a warrant if they want.

The difference between customs and the Gardai is all down to money.
Someone robs your house, steals your stuff, assaults you or drunken arseholes causing trouble round town, druggies, maniacs on the road, OK, call the Guards and a disinterested officer may or may not call out, usually once any trouble has died down and explain something like "civil matter, nothing we can do" with a stifled yawn.
Now do something that could cost the state 5 cent in tax and you have customs who can take your car, enter your property without warrant and confiscate just about anything they fancy and will pursue you like the devil the poor souls and usually do. They are like Gardai with actual powers and resources that care about their job.
I'm just not sure why they care about fireworks, but that maybe an Irish ideological thing like the Magdalene laundries and a complete refusal to build any parking facilities for sports and concert venues.

RustyNut

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

Now do something that could cost the state 5 cent in tax and you have customs who can take your car, enter your property without warrant and confiscate just about anything they fancy and will pursue you like the devil the poor souls and usually do.

Only if you are one of the little people. If your Apple on the other hand.........

Samaris

Mod: Since everyone's aware that fireworks are illegal in Ireland, closing thread that amounts to discussion of smuggling illegal stuff over the border. Going to assume this comes as a surprise to no-one! If anyone wants to continue the conversation of whether this is a daft law or not, feel free to start a thread on it, just no discussion of sourcing/smuggling them, please.