Get your wallets out, go fill up now.

polan

Well, people of Boards, got some news for you.

I've casual interest in stock prices, currency exchange and all that bollogney.

Just a heads up, you're about to see a 3-5 cent increase in fuel prices this week.

I advise you get your fuel today and you brim the tank

Euro/USD rate is worse while Brent is up to over $59, a value not seen in about two years.

€1.359 / €1.219 average today (26th of September)
We shall see what the average is by the end of the week.

James Bond Junior

polan wrote: »

Well, people of Boards, got some news for you.

I've casual interest in stock prices, currency exchange and all that bollogney.

Just a heads up, you're about to see a 3-5 cent increase in fuel prices this week.

I advise you get your fuel today and you brim the tank

Euro/USD rate is worse while Brent is up to over $59, a value not seen in about two years.

On a 55 litre tank that's an increase of about €2. Hardly apocalypse prepping time time is it?

Autosport

Good call, I filled up this evening

polan

polan wrote: »

Well, people of Boards, got some news for you.

I've casual interest in stock prices, currency exchange and all that bollogney.

Just a heads up, you're about to see a 3-5 cent increase in fuel prices this week.

I advise you get your fuel today and you brim the tank

Euro/USD rate is worse while Brent is up to over $59, a value not seen in about two years.

My tank is half full so if I fill tomorrow I'll save around 90c. Happy days😊

alias no.9

Autosport wrote: »

Good call, I filled up this evening

I filled up yesterday, does that make me the winner?

elperello

James Bond Junior wrote: »

On a 55 litre tank that's an increase of about €2. Hardly apocalypse prepping time time is it?

2 squids in your pocket for nothing not to be sneezed at

Autosport

alias no.9 wrote: »

I filled up yesterday, does that make me the winner?

No as it was only posted today :P

polan

James Bond Junior wrote: »

On a 55 litre tank that's an increase of about €2. Hardly apocalypse prepping time time is it?

I don't know about you JBJ, but if you do an average of 16,000 miles per year in a 45 mpg diesel then you'd save approximately €50 in the course of a year if you listened to advice like that on a weekly basis. I find €50 in my pocket far nicer (and that's only with the 3c increase!)

mikeecho

And expect another increase in two weeks.

Budget is on October 10th

Petrol might escape an increase, but our dirty polar bear killing diesels will most likely see an increase in fuel tax.

So between the two, we could see an increase of 4 to 10c in two weeks time.

How'd you like them apples.

Trojan

Any numbers being kited by government on what the fuel changes in budget might be?

mikeecho

Trojan wrote: »

Any numbers being kited by government on what the fuel changes in budget might be?

Nothing being mentioned, but the duty difference between petrol and diesel will likely to be removed over the next few years.

And personally, I would put money on the motor tax bands/rates being adjusted.

The only thing that has been mentioned is free tolls for EVs.

But as always, we won't know, till we know.

Tigger

James Bond Junior wrote: »

On a 55 litre tank that's an increase of about €2. Hardly apocalypse prepping time time is it?

It's what I thought

James Bond Junior

polan wrote: »

I don't know about you JBJ, but if you do an average of 16,000 miles per year in a 45 mpg diesel then you'd save approximately €50 in the course of a year if you listened to advice like that on a weekly basis. I find €50 in my pocket far nicer (and that's only with the 3c increase!)

I do a fair bit more than that and I've learned to just put up with it. Thanks though.

166man

Eur/USD high two year (?) highs in August/September up at $1.20 compared to the start of the year sitting at $1.17 isn’t really that bad.

16k miles in my car would cost circa €3000 this year. Proposed price increases would add 1.6% to that bill.

Loads of other things to worry about other than that imo. If €50 is a big deal you need to question the ability to afford a car full stop really.

Theboinkmaster

polan wrote: »

I don't know about you JBJ, but if you do an average of 16,000 miles per year in a 45 mpg diesel then you'd save approximately €50 in the course of a year if you listened to advice like that on a weekly basis. I find €50 in my pocket far nicer (and that's only with the 3c increase!)

What about your time and the fuel cost of going to garage on extra trip?

15mins of my time worth a lot more than €2 so fvck it.

LollipopJimmy

Hmm this 2ltr petrol Accord I'm colleting tomorrow may not have been the wisest purchase then?

biko

James Bond Junior wrote: »

Hardly apocalypse prepping time time is it?

Oops, I already killed a few zombies. Or maybe they were just really old people.

ELM327

What is this petrol you speak of? :pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:
I "fill up" my EV for free at work every day.

oppenheimer1

ELM327 wrote: »

What is this petrol you speak of? :pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:
I "fill up" my EV for free at work every day.

:rolleyes:

Great.

ELM327

oppenheimer1 wrote: »

:rolleyes:

Great.

Ah. You're back. Excellent.

Aren't you insulated from fossil fuel prices aswell, didnt you say you got half price fuel or something?

Effects

James Bond Junior wrote: »

On a 55 litre tank that's an increase of about €2. Hardly apocalypse prepping time time is it?

Brim it and you save an extra €0.02

mikeecho

2.5¢/l rise in wholesale diesel prices yesterday. That will filter thru in the next few days.

Anyway, for those saying that they wouldn't be bothered filling up for such a measly rise in cost, Well, you might want to fill up the day before the budget, because every time they announce an increase in fuel duty, Drivers go MAD and que for ages to top up before midnight, Now that i never understood.
Fill up the day before the Budget, and dont waste half an hour queing at the pumps.

Effects

LollipopJimmy wrote: »

Hmm this 2ltr petrol Accord I'm colleting tomorrow may not have been the wisest purchase then?

Diesels are a dying breed.

shietpilot

Effects wrote: »

Diesels are a dying breed.

Keep dreaming

mikeecho

shietpilot wrote: »

Keep dreaming

Well the news today suggests that Easy Jet are looking to have electric planes for short haul (<2hr) within the next 10 to 20yrs
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-easyjet-strategy/britains-easyjet-aims-for-electric-short-haul-flights-idUSKCN1C21O6

So if a plane can be electric, why cant all new cars

(jet fuel is kerosene)

Sue Pa Key Pa

polan wrote: »

I don't know about you JBJ, but if you do an average of 16,000 miles per year in a 45 mpg diesel then you'd save approximately €50 in the course of a year if you listened to advice like that on a weekly basis. I find €50 in my pocket far nicer (and that's only with the 3c increase!)

I'd say there are loads of people out there spending more than €50 a year hunting around to save €20 a year on petrol

Effects

shietpilot wrote: »

Keep dreaming

I don't need to dream, it's becoming reality. I'm also saying this as a current driver of two diesel vehicles.

mikeecho

Effects wrote: »

I don't need to dream, it's becoming reality. I'm also saying this as a current driver of two diesel vehicles.

i agree, current household of two people , and we have 2 petrol cars, one petrol bike, a diesel car and loads of two stroke garden tools.

I'm a fan of fosel fuels, but .. electric will come to dominate.

Enjoy the flexibility and convenience of Petrol/Diesel while you can.

danmanw8

alias no.9 wrote: »

I filled up yesterday, does that make me the winner?

What are you going to do with all that money you saved???

mikeecho

danmanw8 wrote: »

What are you going to do with all that money you saved???

DUH .. Buy an island

what else would he do :pac:

gctest50

shietpilot wrote: »

Keep dreaming

soooon :

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-09-26/california-mulls-following-china-with-combustion-engine-car-ban

“I’ve gotten messages from the governor asking, ‘Why haven’t we done something already?’” Nichols said, referring to China’s planned phase-out of fossil-fuel vehicle sales.

“The governor has certainly indicated an interest in why China can do this and not California.”

mikeecho

Markets can change very quickly, fossil fuel cars are heading for a sharp decline, yes there will be millions of them out there, but all new cars will soon be electric/hydrogen etc.

Just look at smoking.. over a short few years, nearly everyone is on e-cigs.
kids are even vaping, It was a sea change.

There is a sea change coming for the ICE.

polan

166man wrote: »

Eur/USD high two year (?) highs in August/September up at $1.20 compared to the start of the year sitting at $1.17 isn’t really that bad.

16k miles in my car would cost circa €3000 this year. Proposed price increases would add 1.6% to that bill.

Loads of other things to worry about other than that imo. If €50 is a big deal you need to question the ability to afford a car full stop really.

Poor money management is hardly something to be proud of If you're that into losing €50 per year, why don't you burn a €50 note every year? That said, most Irish people I know don't respect their money. Different mentalities I guess.

polan

mikeecho wrote: »

Markets can change very quickly, fossil fuel cars are heading for a sharp decline, yes there will be millions of them out there, but all new cars will soon be electric/hydrogen etc.

Just look at smoking.. over a short few years, nearly everyone is on e-cigs.
kids are even vaping, It was a sea change.

There is a sea change coming for the ICE.

I don't know a single vaper :pac:

Autochange

mikeecho wrote: »

And expect another increase in two weeks.

Budget is on October 10th

Petrol might escape an increase, but our dirty polar bear killing diesels will most likely see an increase in fuel tax.

So between the two, we could see an increase of 4 to 10c in two weeks time.

How'd you like them apples.

Modern diesel vehicles emissions are similar to petrol emissions. There is no huge difference. Its another cash grab

Effects

Autochange wrote: »

Modern diesel vehicles emissions are similar to petrol emissions. There is no huge difference. Its another cash grab

I have three words for you. Nanoparticles.

fancy pigeon

James Bond Junior wrote: »

On a 55 litre tank that's an increase of about €2. Hardly apocalypse prepping time time is it?

I won't be able to afford my morning coffee in McDonalds now.

That's completely ruined my day :(:(

DaveyDave

The problem for me is I live beside the N4 and work beside the N3 so both garages are a rip off. I do actually have to go somewhere else if I want cheaper diesel. I suppose the garage 5 minutes away beside my barbers is apparently quite cheap.

I spend an average of €100 a month of diesel, saving €2/tank would be nice but it's not realistic to drive anywhere for it and to be honest it's easier to save money by not buying an energy drink before work twice a month...

Sure you're already saving on the cheap tax anyway

fancy pigeon wrote: »

I won't be able to afford my morning coffee in McDonalds now.

That's completely ruined my day :(:(

It's €2.30 in some places, as if McDonald's don't have enough profits they couldn't even keep the coffee cheap

166man

166man wrote: »

Eur/USD high two year (?) highs in August/September up at $1.20 compared to the start of the year sitting at $1.17 isn’t really that bad.

16k miles in my car would cost circa €3000 this year. Proposed price increases would add 1.6% to that bill.

Loads of other things to worry about other than that imo. If €50 is a big deal you need to question the ability to afford a car full stop really.

I'd rather have the 50 euro to spend on beer than needlessly waste it on fuel.

Miike

>Buy fuel, its going to increase in price soon.
>Ah feck off I can't be arsed.
>DIESEL IS COMING TO AN END!!!!!!!!! AN END I TELL YOU!!!!
>Lul. I have an EV.

Take a xanax or something, seriously. Every bloody thread.

ironclaw

mikeecho wrote: »

Markets can change very quickly, fossil fuel cars are heading for a sharp decline, yes there will be millions of them out there, but all new cars will soon be electric/hydrogen etc.

Just look at smoking.. over a short few years, nearly everyone is on e-cigs.
kids are even vaping, It was a sea change.

There is a sea change coming for the ICE.

Don't see it. Take a stroll through Hong Kong, Bangkok, Beijing, Shanghai, Mexico City and tell me how you plan to replace all those cars within the next 10 to 20 years. Impossible. For the middle class and up, no bother. But you'll have a hard time convincing the blue collar guy who bought a clapped out Pontiac for $200 that he can't drive it any more. You'd need a politician to sign a bill to banned them (Best of luck getting re-elected) and you'd need to be prepared to take the financial hit from all the oil money backing it.

Not saying its impossible, but I'd wager 2 to 3 generations is a better estimate. Even here, I'm coming up on my 30s and I couldn't afford a new EV and by hells bells I'll buy one on credit.

mikeecho

ironclaw wrote: »

Don't see it. Take a stroll through Hong Kong, Bangkok, Beijing, Shanghai, Mexico City and tell me how you plan to replace all those cars within the next 10 to 20 years. Impossible. For the middle class and up, no bother. But you'll have a hard time convincing the blue collar guy who bought a clapped out Pontiac for $200 that he can't drive it any more. You'd need a politician to sign a bill to banned them (Best of luck getting re-elected) and you'd need to be prepared to take the financial hit from all the oil money backing it.

Not saying its impossible, but I'd wager 2 to 3 generations is a better estimate. Even here, I'm coming up on my 30s and I couldn't afford a new EV and by hells bells I'll buy one on credit.

Read what you quoted...

ironclaw

mikeecho wrote: »

Read what you quoted...

Have you been to any of the cities I quoted? Its fossil fuel mecca. I don't see that changing any time soon. I know China have made deep dives into EV, but the same place halted all the factories around Beijing for APEC in 2015, only to start them a week later once all the worlds press had left.

mikeecho

ironclaw wrote: »

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Quote: mikeecho
Markets can change very quickly, fossil fuel cars are heading for a sharp decline, yes there will be millions of them out there



but all new cars will soon be electric/hydrogen etc.


I never said that they (ice) would vanish overnight.

I was talking that virtually all new cars would be elec/hydro etc ,

I'm referring to euro/western markets.

And yes I have been to a few of those cities.

vintagevrs

polan wrote: »

I don't know about you JBJ, but if you do an average of 16,000 miles per year in a 45 mpg diesel then you'd save approximately €50 in the course of a year if you listened to advice like that on a weekly basis. I find €50 in my pocket far nicer (and that's only with the 3c increase!)

So if you know prices are going up in a few days, then fill up and save a euro or two, that's fair enough. It's not like you can buy a year's worth of diesel though so you only save on one tank at most.

You can't make the saving on a weekly basis.

166man

polan wrote: »

Poor money management is hardly something to be proud of If you're that into losing €50 per year, why don't you burn a €50 note every year? That said, most Irish people I know don't respect their money. Different mentalities I guess.

It’s hardly poor money management, I’m not losing €50 a year, I just don’t care to put in the required effort in order to make such a piss poor saving.

Like I said, better things to do with my time than worry about €50.

Rachel Rancid Handgun wrote: »

I'd rather have the 50 euro to spend on beer than needlessly waste it on fuel.

Good for you man. As above, I guess it’s different priorities, there’s more to life etc etc than worrying about that.

Now if you owned a haulage company then sure, savings are worth it, but otherwise?

ELM327

I don't even bother to drive out of my way when filling up to get a 1-2 cent per litre saving.
It's not worth it.

If your time is really worth so little that it's worth deviating from your life to save a couple of euro before a price increase then that begats more questions than it answers tb

dil999

166man wrote: »

It’s hardly poor money management, I’m not losing €50 a year, I just don’t care to put in the required effort in order to make such a piss poor saving.

Like I said, better things to do with my time than worry about €50.



Good for you man. As above, I guess it’s different priorities, there’s more to life etc etc than worrying about that.

Now if you owned a haulage company then sure, savings are worth it, but otherwise?

I remember a few years ago in the US with an american friend of mine. Gas prices were somewhere around 2.12 to 2.17 per gallon. He had a a car with a 15 gallon tank and it did 30 mpg. We drove around for 20 minutes, at least 10 miles, until he found a station selling gas at 2.12. It cost him 70 cents in petrol and 20 minutes driving to 'save' 75 cents. (probably less cause he wasn't empty.):D