Lunchtime Live with Ciara Kelly [Mod warning post #1]

Huntergonzo

meeeeh wrote: »

You might be shocked but not everything is about you. And if you didn't hear of Tommy Robinson that points to being poorly informed.

I'm not going to go into any more discussions about the post pages ago but yes I do believe you use critical thinking as a pretense to doubt someone just because you don't like them. That's not critical thinking and critical consumption of media that's just acting according to your own bias.

So you can't provide the quotes to support your claims? Were you just flat out making stuff up then? To be honest I think you were, bad form in my view, I haven't misquoted you.

Why won't you stand by your comment about despising people?

ButtersSuki

ButtersSuki wrote: »

She is non-practicing - she has stated more than once she hasn't practicesd in over 2 years. If she hasn't kept up her CME (Continuous Medical Education) throughout her 2 years plus on the radio she won't be allowed to practice again until she gains enough CME ppoints to re-enter the GP Scheme (bar a blanket exemption for healthcare professional given exceptional times we are in). It's not as simple as 'once a doctor, always a doctor'.

She said she would re-register as a GP.

But I'm sorry, I'm gone from this thread.

Congrats haters. You win.

ButtersSuki

Grolschevik wrote: »

She's still registered to practise medicine in Ireland, The Medical Council register is in the public domain.



Her registration number is 021248. As an aside, Leo varadkar is not on the register.

I didn't hear what you say she said, but I suspect she meant that she hasn't worked in her practice, where she presumably employs a locum, not that she's non-practising.

She said she hasn't practiced for over 2years.

Chalk McHugh

Why does everyone still call her Dr Ciara Kelly when shes out of that profession a long time ago? I live beside a lad that used work in a pub i dont call him barman Whacker Reilly. Whats that all about. Stinks of pomposity.

Tell me how

Chalk McHugh wrote: »

Why does everyone still call her Dr Ciara Kelly when shes out of that profession a long time ago? I live beside a lad that used work in a pub i dont call him barman Whacker Reilly. Whats that all about. Stinks of pomposity.

People only refer to her in this way when it is in an appropriate context such as discussing medical issues.

You won't hear people on her show calling her Dr in the regular run of things.

Grolschevik

ButtersSuki wrote: »

She said she hasn't practiced for over 2years.

If it's anything like the professional requirements for solicitors, I suspect it's like this:

Take Miriam O'Callaghan. She's a qualified solicitor, but doesn't take out a practising certificate nor keep up with CPE. Thus she would not be legally entitled to practise. She is a non-practising solicitor.

On the other hand, there are very many retired solicitors, who may not have been inside an office or seen any clients in years, but who continue to take out the annual practising cert and keep up with their CPE requirements (necessary to be able to take out a practising cert). They are legally entitled to practise and hold themselves out as practising solicitors, even if they don't currently work as one.

ButtersSuki

Tell me how wrote: »

People only refer to her in this way when it is in an appropriate context such as discussing medical issues.

You won't hear people on her show calling her Dr in the regular run of things.

Not the point, as I'm sure you know. She has it in her twitter handle, in her Indo and Sindo columns etc.

And is it really approriate in a medical context if she's non-practicing?

meeeeh

Huntergonzo wrote: »

So you can't provide the quotes to support your claims? Were you just flat out making stuff up then? To be honest I think you were, bad form in my view, I haven't misquoted you.

Why won't you stand by your comment about despising people?

I stand by my comments. However I really can't stand by how you interpret them. And considering I already accused you of bias in your approach it's perfectly predictable for me. So no I don't know by what comments I'm not standing or what quotes should I provide. Don't bother explaining though because I won't provide any of them. What I posted is perfectly adequate for the level of this thread and I have no intention looking for quotes I should provide for I don't know what.

Huntergonzo

Huntergonzo wrote: »

I'm not even convinced she has covid-19, the media tells so many fcukin lies on a daily basis that nothing would surprise me. They'll do anything and everything they can to milk a story and generate publicity.

Can you give some examples of these daily lies? "The media" is a fairly broad term, which media in particular is lying to us and about what?

Huntergonzo

meeeeh wrote: »

I stand by my comments. However I really can't stand by how you interpret them. And considering I already accused you of bias in your approach it's perfectly predictable for me. So no I don't know by what comments I'm not standing or what quotes should I provide. Don't bother explaining though because I won't provide any of them. What I posted is perfectly adequate for the level of this thread and I have no intention looking for quotes I should provide for I don't know what.

In fairness I've only quoted you directly in my responses whereas you've come out with semi-coherent clangers like:

"And I didn't said I hate, I said I despise because going on you are not believing everything traditional media serves you and then repeat any nonsense Tommy Robinson (for example, you can replace him with any other questionable source) puts out is clear sign of complete dishonesty."

Then failed to provide a single quote of mine where I a). made a distinction between 'traditional' and 'alternative' media or b) 'repeated' anything from people like Tommy Robinson (who I'd never even heard of!)

Ps, I'm happy to see you're finally standing by your comment about despising potentially quite a lot of people. Hate's a bad thing though, free yourself of it.

meeeeh

Huntergonzo wrote: »

Ps, I'm happy to see you're finally standing by your comment about despising potentially quite a lot of people. Hate's a bad thing though, free yourself of it.

I also said not everything is about you. You obviously missed out that among all my quotes.

despise
/dɪˈspʌɪz/
Learn to pronounce
verb
feel contempt or a deep repugnance for

hate
/heɪt/
Learn to pronounce
verb
feel intense dislike for.

I'm not a native English speaker but those two look a bit different to me.

Huntergonzo

Ahwell wrote: »

Can you give some examples of these daily lies? "The media" is a fairly broad term, which media in particular is lying to us and about what?

They don't tell lies, I was wrong and I admit it.

Nobody in the media has ever told lies or fabricated or exaggerated or any of that stuff, I learned that yesterday, you must have missed my eureka moment:

"I've provoked quite a few thoughts in fairness, but I've also learned a few things myself, such as:

1. The media never tells lies
2. Doctors are incapable of telling lies
3. Anyone who questions either of the above is a wrongin'
4. Also I think someone said Ciara was a vampire a couple of posts back, which was interesting."

So there you have it, not only am I a genuis, but I'm also humble :-)

Huntergonzo

meeeeh wrote: »

I also said not everything is about you. You obviously missed out that among all my quotes.

despise
/dɪˈspʌɪz/
Learn to pronounce
verb
feel contempt or a deep repugnance for

hate
/heɪt/
Learn to pronounce
verb
feel intense dislike for.

I'm not a native English speaker but those two look a bit different to me.

No I got that one, cheers.

Any luck with the rest?

meeeeh

In communication the mistake can happen at the messenger's end, during the transition and at the receiver 's end. At least one person here has completely scrambled receiver.

meeeeh

Huntergonzo wrote: »

No I got that one, cheers.

Any luck with the rest?

I don't think your receiver is working.

Huntergonzo

Huntergonzo wrote: »

They don't tell lies, I was wrong and I admit it.

Nobody in the media has ever told lies or fabricated or exaggerated or any of that stuff, I learned that yesterday, you must have missed my eureka moment:

"I've provoked quite a few thoughts in fairness, but I've also learned a few things myself, such as:

1. The media never tells lies
2. Doctors are incapable of telling lies
3. Anyone who questions either of the above is a wrongin'
4. Also I think someone said Ciara was a vampire a couple of posts back, which was interesting."

So there you have it, not only am I a genuis, but I'm also humble :-)

Are you going to answer the question?

Huntergonzo

meeeeh wrote: »

In communication the mistake can happen at the messenger's end, during the transition and at the receiver 's end. At least one person here has completely scrambled receiver.

No luck then Ted.

Ps, I have a beautiful receiver I'll have you know but I'm a giver myself ;-)

Huntergonzo

Ahwell wrote: »

Are you going to answer the question?

When mine are answered honestly by the other 2 then I will yes.

Fair is fair.

Ps, where did you come into all of this?

Huntergonzo

Huntergonzo wrote: »

When mine are answered honestly by the other 2 then I will yes.

Fair is fair.

Ps, where did you come into all of this?

I have nothing to do with the other 2, I just read a post of yours and asked a question which you don't seem to want to answer.

Huntergonzo

Ahwell wrote: »

I have nothing to do with the other 2, I just read a post of yours and asked a question which you don't seem to want to answer.

Hahahaha you gave it away with the first line, I didn't ask you if you had anything to do with the other 2!!!

I think Tell me how might have a twin :-)

Send him out there and I'll answer his questions.

Haha chancer. Good night and god bless.

Huntergonzo

meeeeh wrote: »

I don't think your receiver is working.

No it's ok mate, I made a call earlier, it's working grand.

Tell me how

Huntergonzo wrote: »

Hahahaha you gave it away with the first line, I didn't ask you if you had anything to do with the other 2!!!

I think Tell me how might have a twin :-)

Send him out there and I'll answer his questions.

Haha chancer. Good night and god bless.

I've no questions for you.

You are very easy to understand.

Huntergonzo

Tell me how wrote: »

I've no questions for you.

You are very easy to understand.

Thank you, I appreciate that.

generalgerry

Luimneach2018 wrote: »

So she's pretending to have Covid-19 now?? Outrageous accusation. Some of you have truly lost the plot.

She may not be pretending that she has COVID-19, but she's certainly pretending that it presents a serious threat to her life.

Tell me how

generalgerry wrote: »

She may not be pretending that she has COVID-19, but she's certainly pretending that it presents a serious threat to her life.

Have you opened a newspaper in the last few weeks?

generalgerry

generalgerry wrote: »

but she's certainly pretending that it presents a serious threat to her life.

What are you basing this on? I just listened to an an RTE interview she did and she said the exact opposite to what you are claiming.

https://www.rte.ie/news/primetime/2020/0319/1124134-watch-dr-ciara-kelly-has-the-virus/

ButtersSuki

Tell me how wrote: »

Have you opened a newspaper in the last few weeks?

Lol. She’s not remotely high risk. Less exaggeration please.

generalgerry

Tell me how wrote: »

Have you opened a newspaper in the last few weeks?

I don't see why you think she is in any way high risk. How many women of her age world wide have died of the Coronavirus?

If she really thought she was in danger would she be presenting the radio show from her hot press, and giving interviews to anybody who would listen to her story.

I'm not trying to be unkind here but people need to wise up about how people use their positions in the media to promote their own positions.

Tell me how

generalgerry wrote: »

I don't see why you think she is in any way high risk. How many women of her age world wide have died of the Coronavirus?

If she really thought she was in danger would she be presenting the radio show from her hot press, and giving interviews to anybody who would listen to her story.

I'm not trying to be unkind here but people need to wise up about how people use their positions in the media to promote their own positions.

Seems to most people that she is using her position to try to inform others and talk them through the process. A lot of people of a similar age and gender as Ciara are probably reassured to hear her talk reasonably about this.

But no, same as with the 100 days of walking, which many have taken up her initiative on and which is a very decent thing to be doing and yet so many, on this thread at least, say she is only doing it to draw attention to herself.

And, if she is eager to be successful, how bad is that?

generalgerry

generalgerry wrote: »

I don't see why you think she is in any way high risk. How many women of her age world wide have died of the Coronavirus?

If she really thought she was in danger would she be presenting the radio show from her hot press, and giving interviews to anybody who would listen to her story.

I'm not trying to be unkind here but people need to wise up about how people use their positions in the media to promote their own positions.

Where has she claimed that it presents a serious threat to her life? Sorry for asking twice, but you do have a habit of getting things wrong and then just glossing over it as if you never said it.