Anyone else find Facebook a rather creepy, not very good company?

fr336

I see their homepage today:

"Peace begins with us
We believe that kindness and love can change the world. Join all of us at Facebook in observing an International Day of Peace today and spreading hope, one person at a time."This from the company that behaves like an arrogant child when it comes to terrorist activity on its network. I find their style very intrusive, sure their product is very good but people are there for that not them as a company. They're seemingly constantly trying to manipulate users and make out they are some saintly operation that just happens to have so much of your data and information. I don't have the same views on Twitter and Google, maybe they're just better at hiding their weirdness.

bee06

If only there was some way of not interacting the Facebook ...

Barry Badrinath

bee06 wrote: »

If only there was some way of not interacting the Facebook ...

QUIET!!!!!

It will hear yooooouuuuu!!!

fr336

bee06 wrote: »

If only there was some way of not interacting the Facebook ...

Thank you for the cutting edge response.

Omackeral

brINg bEbO bk xoxoxox

aaronjumper

*POKE*

snowflaker

Give me your love! Am I in your Top Friends!!!

degsie

Ah, another 'first world problem' thread. Nobody is forced to use Facebook. Go outside for a little while, you might meet people.

spoonerhead

Think they have a certain agenda, one which their founder states. If you don't agree with the companies product/service, don't use it?

fr336

degsie wrote: »

Ah, another 'first world problem' thread. Nobody is forced to use Facebook. Go outside for a little while, you might meet people.

Gawd I love After Hours, such right on replies. Nobody was forced to reply to this thread either, or are you being paid or something

fr336

spoonerhead wrote: »

Think they have a certain agenda, one which their founder states. If you don't agree with the companies product/service, don't use it?

Apologies I thought this was a discussion forum, I wasn't coming to you all with a problem and asking for the solution....

I got a pop up from Facebook asking did i think they care deeply about their users. Or some ****e. Eh no you don't. And stop being creepy

fr336

bluewolf wrote: »

I got a pop up from Facebook asking did i think they care deeply about their users. Or some ****e. Eh no you don't. And stop being creepy

Haven't had that myself. See what I mean? "Care deeply" lol...

Your Face

That peace and kindness message thing almost annoyed me.

I reported a post that was very insulting to Ireland and usually I wouldn't bother but the post was a bit much.

They said that the post wasn't covered by conditions laid out in their terms of abuse.

4068ac1elhodqr

spoonerhead wrote: »

Think they have a certain agenda, one which their founder states...

Could it be towards POTUS 2020? Zuckerberg is priced very very short at around 17/1. Can't see him standing up to Rocketman™ too well, all the same. Just send him a thumbs down/unfriend request, sure that'll work.

Is not creepy in comparison to those little speakers, that people actually buy themselves, that constantly records everything they say.

Wanderer78

Aiden Thundering Thriftiness wrote: »

Rocketman™

still glad ive never had an account, more to life!

fr336

Aiden Thundering Thriftiness wrote: »

Could it be towards POTUS 2020? Zuckerberg is priced very very short at around 17/1. Can't see him standing up to Rocketman™ too well, all the same. Just send him a thumbs down/unfriend request, sure that'll work.

Is not creepy in comparison to those little speakers, that people actually buy themselves, that constantly records everything they say.

Is it bad to say that Zuckerberg scares me a little bit more than Trump?

Bygumbo

I got off that website years ago. The whole thing about them owning your photographs once you put them up was the last straw for me (I'm sure they've belly-flopped on that issue a hundred times since then).

It was an easy choice. What do I get out of it? Nothing.

What do I lose? Loads and loads, from personal privacy to shielding myself from idiocy.

When I think about how willing people are to give away their personal life to a company it actually makes sense out of the state of the world, ie its bursting to the brim with hapless goons. So be it!

Wanderer78

fr336 wrote: »

Is it bad to say that Zuckerberg scares me a little bit more than Trump?

hard to say, but at least zuckerberg shows some sign of intelligence, donald dumb on the other hand:rolleyes:

fr336

Wanderer78 wrote: »

hard to say, but at least zuckerberg shows some sign of intelligence, donald dumb on the other hand:rolleyes:

I'm still crossing my fingers that Trump is too dumb to cause anything too bad. To be fair it's now 9 months in and we're still here so could be worse :pac: I can imagine Zuckerberg would have no trouble at all bending people to his will, that feels more dangerous to me. Then again maybe he really is as nice as he seems all too keen to make out...

Poor Uncle Tom

Imagine being master of all your own information......

It can't happen if your suckling at the teats of Facebook....

Wanderer78

fr336 wrote: »

I'm still crossing my fingers that Trump is too dumb to cause anything too bad. To be fair it's now 9 months in and we're still here so could be worse :pac: I can imagine Zuckerberg would have no trouble at all bending people to his will, that feels more dangerous to me. Then again maybe he really is as nice as he seems all too keen to make out...

unfortunately people such as jim richards believes america is going to war with nk soon, the donald has played his part in that. ah im not sure the american political system can ever really be changed, no matter who you put in there, its such a toxic wasteland at this stage. im not even sure if god was elected in, things would change.

fr336

Wanderer78 wrote: »

unfortunately people such as jim richards believes america is going to war with nk soon, the donald has played his part in that. ah im not sure the american political system can ever really be changed, no matter who you put in there, its such a toxic wasteland at this stage. im not even sure if god was elected in, things would change.

Agreed!

NIMAN

They donated $1million to the Mexico earthquake fund.

Decent.of them.

Shelga

I have come to hate Facebook. The way Mark Zuckerberg makes out he's some Mother Theresa-esque force for good who just wants us all to feel the love, man, makes me nauseous. I do think it has good elements, but overall has had a negative impact on the world.

The only reason I still have an account is because you need one for Tinder.

We're all prisoners!

4068ac1elhodqr

Wanderer78 wrote: »

hard to say, but at least zuckerberg shows some sign of intelligence, donald dumb on the other hand:rolleyes:

Would rather have the entertainment value of the Donald, sure Zuckerberg would send folks to sleep on about all that html slash this and dot that jizz.

He's shorter odds to be the next president 3 yrs from now that Trump was when was just 3 months from being elected.

Another fella that possibly be up to no real good is that Gates fella, under a veil of all that vaccine stuff, am sure if someone wanted to eliminate malaria they probably could, just no money in it for Pharma if it was a solved issue.

Harry Palmr

Zuckerberg is a cult.

Noveight

I'll get off Facebook once I'm finished in college. Until then it's a handy place for people in the group to ask questions and get answers.

Roger Hassenforder

Noveight wrote: »

I'll get off Facebook once I'm finished in college. Until then it's a handy place for people in the group to ask questions and get answers.

god be with the days we'd to go to tutorials for that

DivingDuck

I absolutely despise it and avoid using it as much as possible. I don't have the app on my phone, I just visit the site as required via a dedicated browser on an antiquated laptop I mostly forget to turn on, etc.

Those saying "if you don't like it, don't have one" are perhaps a little blinkered, though. It's very difficult to manage in some industries and circles without FB these days; if you don't have one, it limits your interactions (no Tinder, as mentioned above), activities (can't enter competitions etc.), and networking activity (college group mentioned above). Depending on what you need to do in your life, this can be a significant barrier to career progress, romantic relationships, whatver— not for everyone, but for some people. "Go outside and meet people" won't work if the other 10 people in your tutor group will only converse via FB, or if everyone else is using Tinder and similar apps to make their romantic connections.

I think it will become less ubiquitous going forward, though. The current generation of "youths!" seem to have have grown weary of this high-visibility, ultra-connected style of social media and its various nasty repercussions, and so are abandoning it in its droves. Creepy "we love our little revenue generators, really" messages won't save it, for which I am glad. FB only cares about making money— that's understandable, though, considering it's a business and not a welfare charity.

TL;DR: it's a terrible company, but what do you really expect? It's a semi-necessary evil in life. Just be mindful of what you post and don't use it more than you really need to and you can limit how deep it gets its tentacles into you and your life.

Surreptitious

Shelga wrote: »

I have come to hate Facebook. The way Mark Zuckerberg makes out he's some Mother Theresa-esque force for good who just wants us all to feel the love, man, makes me nauseous. I do think it has good elements, but overall has had a negative impact on the world.

The only reason I still have an account is because you need one for Tinder.

We're all prisoners!

I don't use Tinder but my mate told me there's an option now to use it without going for the Facebook choice so maybe you can get around it.

Atoms for Peace

bee06 wrote: »

If only there was some way of not interacting the Facebook ...

Theres always the Russian facebook, VK.

WoollyRedHat

I'll stick to my tamagotchi, thank you very much.

Poor Uncle Tom

A lot of adults have problems with others privacy boundaries. FB seems to be a means to crawl around and try to find out more about people, all for backbiting purposes.

I was once told there were pictures of me on FB taken at home in my own sitting room, that lead to the souring of a friendship very quickly.

Boundaries people, don't just know them, respect them.....

seamus

fr336 wrote: »

Is it bad to say that Zuckerberg scares me a little bit more than Trump?

No, Zuckerberg's whole agenda comes across as very contrived, very polished.

Even the stuff about his child comes across with a real, "Oh, nobody had ever had an experience like this before, my child is so unique, so I'm dedicating this new charity in her name" bolloxogy.
Even though he and his wife spend 20 hours a day working and have a team of people running their household and minding their child for them.

I get the feeling that Facebook as a company is keeping up appearances when it comes to managing the "social" aspect of what they do. Their technology operation is very slick, run incredibly well.
But the business of managing a social network is proving difficult and they're just about keeping the worst of it out of the press.

As the latest stuff about Russian election-manipulating ads, and the leaked moderators' manual has illustrated, they don't have a proper grip on how people use Facebook, and they don't understand the ways in which it's being abused.

For the most part it's a free-for-all for users. To gain any kind of control over it would require an literal army of moderators that it can't afford.

The problem is that Facebook presents itself as a safe environment, a place where people don't need to worry about being hacked, or their children being stalked by paedos, or themselves being stalked by lunatics. When in reality Facebook is exactly the opposite of safe.

Wanderer78

Aiden Thundering Thriftiness wrote:

Would rather have the entertainment value of the Donald, sure Zuckerberg would send folks to sleep on about all that html slash this and dot that jizz.

The only problem is, the Donald isn't exactly entertaining, I much rather my entertainment come with some sort of intelligence, he has a severe deficit in this department. He's just an unintelligent, ignorant loathe, and bloody dangerous to. He personifies major failings in many of our modern day ideologies. We need to take note of this or we potentially could be accelerating our demise

Facebook is obviously a creepy company. Their practice of creating "virtual" accounts for people that don't have membership is just odd.

4068ac1elhodqr

Facebook was applauded by Obama when it worked out well for him 2012 (some folks are still waiting on 'change' as promised back then). Now that Trump has cleverly made and art-form of this marketing tool (specifically through data mining, profiling, universe and sub-group ad targeting) they've suddenly become the bad guy, for facilitating this freedom of expression.

The thing is for Potus20, Mr.Z won't even need to hire the specialist external marketing partners, can do all that themselves. Add in newer advanced profiling, immersive-vr, ai-chat bots and it could turn out to be a easy walk in the park for him.

degsie

Remember when newspaper groups were deemed 'creepy' in the past? Nothing to see here, it's just fear peddling.

Wanderer78

Aiden Thundering Thriftiness wrote: »

Facebook was applauded by Obama when it worked out well for him 2012 (some folks are still waiting on 'change' as promised back then). Now that Trump has cleverly made and art-form of this marketing tool (specifically through data mining, profiling, universe and sub-group ad targeting) they've suddenly become the bad guy, for facilitating this freedom of expression.

The thing is for Potus20, Mr.Z won't even need to hire the specialist external marketing partners, can do all that themselves. Add in newer advanced profiling, immersive-vr, ai-chat bots and it could turn out to be a easy walk in the park for him.

or as sarah palin said, hopey changey thing:)

Atoms for Peace

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Facebook is obviously a creepy company. Their practice of creating "virtual" accounts for people that don't have membership is just odd.

The're the digital equivalent of the mormans.

jimgoose

I only joined Ye Book of Faeces lately, and my impression of it thus far is that it has it's uses, and is very much what you make of it - much depends on your friend-list and what groups you choose to follow.

Facebook camera roll. Look! All your private pics can be in fb with one accidental tap!
X do not show this again
X ok you will not see this again

And repeat... All the time. Giving me a heart attack