Incident on London Underground

Witchie

Just saw on BBC News that there had been some sort of possible explosion on the underground. People apparently coming out with burns on their faces.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4887032/Explosion-underground-train-south-London.html

That was first link I saw.

Hope everyone is OK.

seamus

First reports are that people have suffered facial injuries after a "container exploded" in a carriage.

No damage to any trains or life threatening injuries reported.

Doesn't sound like anything malicious at first glance, but we'll see.

Uriel.

I'm sure it's not terrorism anyway.

Really hope it's not something major whatever it is.

Bunny12345

Part and parcel of living in a big city, unfortunately

Uriel.

Bunny12345 wrote: »

Part and parcel of living in a big city, unfortunately

What is?

seamus

Alleged picture of the container that exploded:


If true, then probably just some moron carrying something dangerous in in a LIDL bag.

Your Face

There was a factory fire last night in London.

Also, a hit and run this morning.

Pelvis

It's the feckin' Germans again!

gramar

seamus wrote: »

If true, then probably just some moron carrying something dangerous in in a LIDL bag.

Like a bomb.....

vicwatson

seamus wrote: »

Alleged picture of the container that exploded:


If true, then probably just some moron carrying something dangerous in in a LIDL bag.

Ah yeh why not stop and take a picture, runnnnn ya gob****e

Karangue

That bag for life was bad value.

s3rtvdbwfj81ch

"nothing malicious"

aye

and that's where we are

Pelvis

gramar wrote: »

Like a bomb.....

Those Thursday specials, what DON'T they sell?

nigel_wilson

Still amazed Dublin hasn't been hit. the buses and passengers going into town would probably be destroyed with something like this at peak hours in the morning and evening.

AndyBoBandy

nigel_wilson wrote: »

Still amazed Dublin hasn't been hit. the buses and passengers going into town would probably be destroyed with something like this at peak hours in the morning and evening.

Almost as amazing as Ibiza not being hit yet

The Moldy Gowl

nigel_wilson wrote: »

Still amazed Dublin hasn't been hit. the buses and passengers going into town would probably be destroyed with something like this at peak hours in the morning and evening.

Dublin rush hour wouldnt have a patch on london

fxotoole

gramar wrote: »

Like a bomb.....

Why do you immediately jump to "bomb" without having all the facts?

munsterlegend

nigel_wilson wrote: »

Still amazed Dublin hasn't been hit. the buses and passengers going into town would probably be destroyed with something like this at peak hours in the morning and evening.

I think Ireland is a low risk target unless for a big international event taking place here like a sporting event or something. Now there could always be a lone madman wolf but I can't see any huge cell operating here.

Karangue

fxotoole wrote: »

Why do you immediately jump to "bomb" without having all the facts?

It's was an explosive device.

Pelvis

Karangue wrote: »

It's was an explosive device.

Is my arse a bomb too?

AndyBoBandy

munsterlegend wrote: »

Now there could always be a lone madman wolf but I can't see any huge cell operating here.

The one (so far) Irish madman nutter we've had even didn't bother doing anything in Ireland, he blew himself up in Syria!! :D

razorblunt

A non Daily Mail link for anyone that wants to read up on the latest.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41278545

cinnamony

nigel_wilson wrote: »

Still amazed Dublin hasn't been hit. the buses and passengers going into town would probably be destroyed with something like this at peak hours in the morning and evening.

Naw don't give them any ideas...

On a serious note I hope those poor people will be okay. Imagine the fright

seamus

Having a good chuckle here at all of the eternally hysterical on Twitter: "I just had to run for my life from the Tube Station! I don't know why, but everyone else was running!".

"My brother lives just down the road from that station, thankfull he's OK"

"OMG, I got off at that station just yesterday"

Uriel.

seamus wrote: »

Having a good chuckle here at all of the eternally hysterical on Twitter: "I just had to run for my life from the Tube Station! I don't know why, but everyone else was running!".

"My brother lives just down the road from that station, thankfull he's OK"

"OMG, I got off at that station just yesterday"

Given there was an incident albeit unconfirmed in terms of what it is and given the fact that the UK has been a target for terrorism reasonably regularly and in the recent past and given all of the other incidents around Europe recently I don't think I'd be laughing at people being concerned and jumping to conclusions/fear.

It's easy to be laughing at people from Ireland and of course it's even easier to laugh at such people from Ireland while sitting behind a keyboard.

gandalf

The picture they are showing on the BBC would suggest it was a IED. It appears to be a white bucket with wires coming out of it. Its either someone stupidly transporting volatile material on a crowded tube or a botched bombing attempt by a lone wolf nutjob.

gramar

fxotoole wrote: »

Why do you immediately jump to "bomb" without having all the facts?

How do you know it's not a bomb if you haven't got all the facts?

Beefy78

Bunny12345 wrote: »

Part and parcel of living in a big city, unfortunately

Uriel. wrote: »

What is?

It's a hilarious joke.

seamus

Uriel. wrote: »

Given there was an incident albeit unconfirmed in terms of what it is and given the fact that the UK has been a target for terrorism reasonably regularly and in the recent past and given all of the other incidents around Europe recently I don't think I'd be laughing at people being concerned and jumping to conclusions/fear.

In an emergency situation, panickers and attention seekers are the two most dangerous people. They spread fear and misinformation, they cause stampedes and crushes and they make it difficult for emergency services and resources to get to where they actually need to be.

I will continue to point and laugh at overly hysterical people until they learn to cop on and asses a situation before losing their mind.

gramar wrote: »

How do you know it's not a bomb if you haven't got all the facts?

How do you know it's not Jesus riding a unicorn if you haven't got all the facts?

MonkieSocks

Who put that bag there and where are they now?

Bacchus

gramar wrote: »

How do you know it's not a bomb if you haven't got all the facts?

I don't think he's saying that it's not a bomb but everyone is very quick to assume the worst (i.e. bomb).

This is par for the course now with any incident around Europe when the public are affected. It must be a bomb. It must have been terrorists. It may well have been but there's no need to feed into the fear. Lets wait and see, it could have been something far less sinister.

IMO, it doesn't fit with the scale or impact of previous attacks. Reports of "cuts and bruises" and witness accounts of some people with burns on their faces. A witness had time to take a picture of the bag/box on fire. Where's the witness reports of someone screaming "Allahu akbar"? It just feels very incidental and not a plan for mass destruction and loss of life.

I'll take my own advice though and wait and see.

ancapailldorcha

Little late in for work. Harrowing that this has happened again on the tube albeit on a much smaller scale.

minikin

Those lidl freezer bags are usually good at stopping stuff from going off.

Ash.J.Williams

munsterlegend wrote: »

I think Ireland is a low risk target unless for a big international event taking place here like a sporting event or something. Now there could always be a lone madman wolf but I can't see any huge cell operating here.

The very fact it's a low risk target makes it a high risk target

munsterlegend

MonkieSocks wrote: »

Who put that bag there and where are they now?

Yeah you would think he would be identified pretty quickly if an accident unless of course he was injured or fled in a panic.

My own feeling is that its an unsophisticated terror attack.

techdiver

seamus wrote: »

In an emergency situation, panickers and attention seekers are the two most dangerous people. They spread fear and misinformation, they cause stampedes and crushes and they make it difficult for emergency services and resources to get to where they actually need to be.

I will continue to point and laugh at overly hysterical people until they learn to cop on and asses a situation before losing their mind.

I'm sorry, but that is full of ****. You are trying to say that if you see a crowd running and scremaing, you will stand calmly there and wait to see what transpires?

I'm not one for over sensationalising events, but to denegrade people for trying to escape for a potentially life threatening event, is a bit cheap and in bad taste considering the events of recent times. If you have any empathy, you will realise that when something like this happens the first wave of people will run from the initial incident, and in turn will cause a knock on effect thos those in close proximity.

Also, to laugh at people that might be concerned for loved one is crass also. The chances might be low, but people can get caught up in these incidents and human instinct will kick in a people will naturally worry.

munsterlegend

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

The very fact it's a low risk target makes it a high risk target

I would consider countries like France, Germany, Britain, Spain and Belgium as high risk targets. We are definitely not on that level or close. The fact we are a a small island gives us extra protection in my view.

El Weirdo

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

The very fact it's a low risk target makes it a high risk target

This is a joke, right?

munsterlegend

techdiver wrote: »

I'm sorry, but that is full of ****. You are trying to say that if you see a crowd running and scremaing, you will stand calmly there and wait to see what transpires?

I'm not one for over sensationalising events, but to denegrade people for trying to escape for a potentially life threatening event, is a bit cheap and in bad taste considering the events of recent times. If you have any empathy, you will realise that when something like this happens the first wave of people will run from the initial incident, and in turn will cause a knock on effect thos those in close proximity.

Also, to laugh at people that might be concerned for loved one is crass also. The chances might be low, but people can get caught up in these incidents and human instinct will kick in a people will naturally worry.

Totally agree. Given recent events the natural thought would be a bomb. If I was there I would also be thinking to get out of there as quickly as possible as could be another device somewhere eise which is not unheard of.

seamus

techdiver wrote: »

You are trying to say that if you see a crowd running and scremaing, you will stand calmly there and wait to see what transpires?

Nope, I didn't say that at all.

What I wouldn't do is go on social media claiming that I was nearly killed by a bomb or giving thanks that someone half a kilometre away is safe, when all I know is that I just left a building for reasons unknown.

In the actual situation, you get people who start screaming and shouting when there's no actual danger. They haven't seen anything happen, they haven't heard anything happen, but they see some people running and then they'll yell, "There's a bomb!". Which causes panic and chaos.

It might be natural to think it. Shouting it out in a crowded area is just plain stupid. Like I say, panickers are the most dangerous people in a crowd. Quick to incite fear and spread misinformation.

munsterlegend

I see Counter terrorism have been called in which appears a more sinister development.

Erik Shin

Pelvis wrote: »

Is my arse a bomb too?

No, but your wifes is da bomb!

Richard Hillman

Looks like it was botched to a certain extent.

munsterlegend

Utterly terrifying.

Probably mentioned before, but I met someone who was on the underground in the July 7th attacks back in 2005. The train pulled up and they were about to get on when they felt that the carriage was a bit crowded and had wanted to try to sit down, so they got into the carriage directly behind that had some seats.

The packed carriage was one of the ones that had a bomb on it.

If this was a bomb, then a lot of people were saved because it misfired.

munsterlegend wrote: »

I see Counter terrorism have been called in which appears a more sinister development.

TBH, given London's past with explosions on undergrounds, they probably would have called Counter Terrorism even if it appeared everything was fine.

MickDoyle1979

If this an Islamic terrorist bomb the obvious response is:

- Say not all Muslims are responsible

- scream for the head of a DJ journalist or celeb who says Islam is not a religion of peace

- light a candle

- change your Facebook profile to Pray For London

- participate in a minute silence

- oppose any sane security measures like restricting travel from counties with Muslim insurgencies into the EU

-oppose rounding up and imprisoning known Islamic extremists

-oppose deporting Islamic hate preachers

-oppose closing down extremist run mosques.

Then rinse and repeat when there is another attack.

- Act shocked this keeps happening and pretend you don't know why

munsterlegend

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Utterly terrifying.

Probably mentioned before, but I met someone who was on the underground in the July 7th attacks back in 2005. The train pulled up and they were about to get on when they felt that the carriage was a bit crowded and had wanted to try to sit down, so they got into the carriage directly behind that had some seats.

The packed carriage was one of the ones that had a bomb on it.

If this was a bomb, then a lot of people were saved because it misfired.



TBH, given London's past with explosions on undergrounds, they probably would have called Counter Terrorism even if it appeared everything was fine.

Initially led by London Transport police who called in Counter Terrorism. I think if it was some workman with a bag going off terrorism would be quickly ruled out to be honest. The question is where is the person responsible for the bag.

everlast75

when they put a suspect device in a shopping carrier bag, Aldi do is try to cause a Lidl amount of panic, especially when it is in the Centra of a town.

What the passengers should do, when they are Dunnes being afraid, they should just say "Tesco to the police and tell them what we saw". Mace sound like a silly idea but its the best approach to try give these terrorists the Boots.


*cough*

Biggest lickspittle on boardz

There are reports that a second device has been deactivated. It would appear that this is a deliberate attempt at causing casualties, instead of an accidental chemical reaction or malfunction.

Bacchus

Biggest lickspittle on boardz wrote: »

There are reports that a second device has been deactivated. It would appear that this is a deliberate attempt at causing casualties, instead of an accidental chemical reaction or malfunction.

From 9 minutes ago

Scotland Yard say they have had no reports of second device and no reports of a man with a knife.

BorneTobyWilde

People going up to window, sticking head against it looking in '' I THINK IT'S BOMB''
BOOM YOU HAVE NO HEAD.
Some people are clueless .

silverharp

Biggest lickspittle on boardz wrote: »

There are reports that a second device has been deactivated. It would appear that this is a deliberate attempt at causing casualties, instead of an accidental chemical reaction or malfunction.

Being a Friday and all, I think I know where this is going