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Shed on uneven concrete yard (rented accommodation)

  • 13-09-2017 10:59pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,007 ✭✭✭


    Need to make space in our rented house as we're expecting a baby in February. There's a lot of furniture we don't want and is too big. Wife mailed landlord in case they might remove some but no idea if they'll want to.

    Thinking of getting a shed to store it. Specifically thinking of a plastic one - keter factor 8x6 or bigger. Have a keter lift up box already and it keeps its contents dry so seems like safe choice.

    The yard is pretty uneven concrete. I wouldn't think it's level enough anywhere to place the shed on it directly. Been wondering how I might set up a base, without making permanent changes such as pouring concrete.

    I was thinking about constructing a frame from 2x4s and using something like these to try to make it level enough (not sure if these particular ones offer enough variation)

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Shedmate-Adjustable-Leveling-Decking-Summerhouses/dp/B003L5ENNG

    Thought I'd post here in case anyone can offer advice/insights and just get a sanity test on the basic idea.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,105 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Wait until you get the go ahead from landlord.
    They might not be happy for you to store their stuff in a shed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,007 ✭✭✭s7ryf3925pivug


    elperello wrote: »
    Wait until you get the go ahead from landlord.
    They might not be happy for you to store their stuff in a shed.
    That's a separate conversation really. Even if we just use it for our own stuff, we've bikes that would be better not taking space up in the house. One way or another a shed would help as long as it keeps its contents dry and in decent condition.

    On an aside, security's not really an issue. Several houses overlook our yard; I don't see anyone thinking grabbing a bike would be worth the risk of being caught.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,340 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    That's a separate conversation really. Even if we just use it for our own stuff, we've bikes that would be better not taking space up in the house. One way or another a shed would help as long as it keeps its contents dry and in decent condition.

    On an aside, security's not really an issue. Several houses overlook our yard; I don't see anyone thinking grabbing a bike would be worth the risk of being caught.

    Not an aside, but as a landlord, I wouldn't want my stuff stored in a shed.
    It's cold, damp and will lead to the stuff been destroyed. Thatsbhe reason ustoreit and similar places make their money. Cool, warm, dry and ventilated spaces.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 504 ✭✭✭ustari


    Yes, be careful if you put furniture etc in there. Very likely they will go mouldy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,007 ✭✭✭s7ryf3925pivug


    okay thanks risk of mould etc acknowledged. Not putting anything in it too expensive too replace, one way or another.

    Anybody have a keter shed? Any issues with damp or infestation if so?

    As I mentioned we have a big lift up box of the same brand and the contents are dry and perfect throughout bad weather (even though I damaged it during assembly and there's a decent sized hole in the bit beside the door, only covered with duct tape). Reviews of the shed I read mentioned storing computers that function after long periods and things too. So I'm optimistic about the ability to store things without them deteriorating.

    If I store furniture in it and it deteriorates beyond normal wear and tear then I replace it. No big deal... Honestly, if it was an option I'd consider chucking it in a skip and replacing it with the same items when we eventually move. Would be cheaper and less hassle than the using one of the larger versions of this shed plus a platform to put it on.

    So... interested in replies from plastic shed assemblers and owners. Enough replies from landlords imagining me wrecking their stuff.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,101 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    You can do what you want with your own stuff but you can't stick the landlords property into a shed. Ask the landlord if they'll allow you to put a shed in the yard and store your property there. The landlords has to stay indoors.


    I'm not a landlord or tenant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,097 ✭✭✭stevek93


    You are asking for trouble OP, the landlord will not want his items sorted in a shed. IMO look at the rental market currently you don't want a relationship going south with him/her. Can you not rearrange the furniture to suit your needs do you have an attic?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,007 ✭✭✭s7ryf3925pivug


    Got a ladder and planks and store a lot in the attic; largely junk that was here when we came. Not possible to move furniture up there though.

    Hadn't considered that we might not be entitled to move the stuff. Can you give a source for that by any chance?

    Honestly I think the landlord appreciates not needing to concern themself about us. Think they might prefer we just sort stuff out ourselves than bother them. Think they might not care about old furniture they'd probably mainly replace anyway if the place was put on market.

    Anyway will discuss it with them and work something out. The fact they're reasonable and unobtrusive was one of the reasons we decided to make our current place work instead of moving somewhere with more space.

    All that aside - Anybody any ideas about shed assembly... Zero responses so far to what I actually asked about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 692 ✭✭✭jmBuildExt


    The base you describe above sounds like a plan - depending on what the shed floor is made of id recommend sheeting the base with 18mm ply or osb.
    It would need to be suppored at intervals and in the centre (not just the corners).
    I wouldnt bother with those plastic levellers. You can use wooden feet screwed to the frame of the base to keep it level. Use a square of damp proof material underneath the feet to stop water coming back up through it. Its much like laying decking

    Steps.
    Build the frame to the same size as your shed. You want more than just the rectangular out line - you will want joists in between at e.g. 400//500mm intervals. Make sure its square etc
    Put feet on the four corners - cut them so that its level. (inside the frame so it looks neat)
    Prop up the joists at regular intervals (make sure there's no bouncy parts)
    Sheet the base with 18m osb. *
    Assemble your shed on top.

    *Depending on the floor of your shed, you may not need the osb sheeting.


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