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Why don't we do this?

  • 12-09-2017 7:21pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 419 ✭✭A Battered Mars Bar


    Make a really really powerful telescope that can travel really really fast.

    Send it 183 lightyears (taking about 6 days interstellar travel) into space, look back on Earth and find out if Jonathan the "183 year old" tortoise is telling the truth.

    What would you do if we had such abilities to view the past...bearing in mind viewing the past would be in GTA overhead camera style until such a time where viewing would be like the magic 3d Google maps God mode.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    Would everything be in black and white though?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 952 ✭✭✭s4uv3


    Work away there mars bar. There's probably a grant for it an all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,417 ✭✭✭ToddyDoody


    That aside, we still have reeling in the years, and the tv3 knock off that wasn't as popular.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Make a really really powerful telescope that can travel really really fast.

    Send it 183 lightyears (taking about 6 days interstellar travel) into space, look back on Earth and find out if Jonathan the "183 year old" tortoise is telling the truth.

    What would you do if we had such abilities to view the past...bearing in mind viewing the past would be in GTA overhead camera style until such a time where viewing would be like the magic 3d Google maps God mode.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    Make a really really powerful telescope that can travel really really fast.

    Send it 183 lightyears (taking about 6 days interstellar travel) into space, look back on Earth and find out if Jonathan the "183 year old" tortoise is telling the truth.

    What would you do if we had such abilities to view the past...bearing in mind viewing the past would be in GTA overhead camera style until such a time where viewing would be like the magic 3d Google maps God mode.

    What type of propulsion system would you suggest to propel the telescope 183 light years out into space?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 419 ✭✭A Battered Mars Bar


    LordSutch wrote: »
    What propulsion system would you suggest for the telescope?

    Sonic power propulsion with a bit of boost


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 737 ✭✭✭murphthesmurf


    I'm gutted I never thought of this.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 896 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fuzzytrooper


    LordSutch wrote: »
    What type of propulsion system would you suggest to propel the telescope 183 light years out into space?

    The power of wub?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 737 ✭✭✭murphthesmurf


    We could point it at the moon and wait to see if anyone really does land on it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    We could point it at the moon and wait to see if anyone really does land on it.

    Or you could see these.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_retroreflectors_on_the_Moon


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    That's an impressive amount of nonsense in one post.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭Barry Badrinath


    Your Face wrote: »
    That's an impressive amount of nonsense in one post.

    Careful now, he might be Dislexic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 737 ✭✭✭murphthesmurf


    I'd like to send it out around 30 years so I can watch 'Manimal' tv series again. The ba5t3rds took it off and said they wont be showing it again pffft


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    We are not wasting money on that.


    We are going to build a giant space laser and shoot it at random planets.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,417 ✭✭✭Archeron


    LordSutch wrote: »
    What type of propulsion system would you suggest to propel the telescope 183 light years out into space?

    Red bull and turf


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,813 ✭✭✭Noveight


    The cost of taxing and insuring that yoke? God forbid you'd meet a checkpoint in it. Jaysus.


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Aubrey Yellow Fluff


    The Light of Other Days is a good novel on the subject

    About viewing the past anyway. I am not clear on how you're getting a telescope 183 light years away in <= 183 years


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    I'd like to send it out around 30 years so I can watch 'Manimal' tv series again. The ba5t3rds took it off and said they wont be showing it again pffft

    Better still, send it out backwards in reverse gear (just below warp speed), then slingshot it around the sun anticlockwise and back to earth, just in time for a 'new' never before screened episode, with actors that haven't been born yet! Happy days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,749 ✭✭✭Flippyfloppy


    I'm not sure it's a good idea to put all your ideas on the internet for all to see 🀓


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,348 ✭✭✭GhostyMcGhost


    I'm not sure it's a good idea to put all your ideas on the internet for all to see 🀓

    That's hardly his biggest issue here :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 419 ✭✭A Battered Mars Bar


    bluewolf wrote: »
    The Light of Other Days is a good novel on the subject

    About viewing the past anyway. I am not clear on how you're getting a telescope 183 light years away in <= 183 years

    Teleportation


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,065 ✭✭✭Pique


    Make a really really powerful telescope that can travel really really fast.

    Send it 183 lightyears (taking about 6 days interstellar travel) into space, look back on Earth and find out if Jonathan the "183 year old" tortoise is telling the truth.

    What would you do if we had such abilities to view the past...bearing in mind viewing the past would be in GTA overhead camera style until such a time where viewing would be like the magic 3d Google maps God mode.
    183 light-years is 66,841 light-days. And you're saying 6 days of interstellar travel can get you that far.

    So you need to be travelling at 11,140 TIMES the speed of light.

    As nothing can equal, let alone exceed the speed of light we'd need Warp speed.
    But wait, there's a problem.
    According to this https://imgur.com/gallery/Su1RB even Star Trek Warp 9.99 is less than 8000 X light-speed.

    And that's if we had ****ing invented warp speed in the first place!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 419 ✭✭A Battered Mars Bar


    Pique wrote: »
    183 light-years is 66,841 light-days. And you're saying 6 days of interstellar travel can get you that far.

    So you need to be travelling at 11,140 TIMES the speed of light.

    As nothing can equal, let alone exceed the speed of light we'd need Warp speed.
    But wait, there's a problem.
    According to this https://imgur.com/gallery/Su1RB even Star Trek Warp 9.99 is less than 8000 X light-speed.

    And that's if we had ****ing invented warp speed in the first place!!!

    Sonic propulsion. Me and LordSutch have it all worked out so you don't need to worry about it.

    Or conversely just teleport. No speeds neccessary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,065 ✭✭✭Pique


    Well if chatting ****e out loud got people places, you'd be nearly there by now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 737 ✭✭✭murphthesmurf


    Pique wrote: »
    183 light-years is 66,841 light-days. And you're saying 6 days of interstellar travel can get you that far.

    So you need to be travelling at 11,140 TIMES the speed of light.

    As nothing can equal, let alone exceed the speed of light we'd need Warp speed.
    But wait, there's a problem.
    According to this https://imgur.com/gallery/Su1RB even Star Trek Warp 9.99 is less than 8000 X light-speed.

    And that's if we had ****ing invented warp speed in the first place!!!


    So much negativity. Where there's a will there's a way. If neccessary we could fit a time travel device to it, so if it takes longer it can jump back in time to just 6 days later. You need to think outside the box, free your mind.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,261 ✭✭✭Baron Kurtz


    Pique wrote: »
    183 light-years is 66,841 light-days. And you're saying 6 days of interstellar travel can get you that far.

    So you need to be travelling at 11,140 TIMES the speed of light.

    As nothing can equal, let alone exceed the speed of light we'd need Warp speed.
    But wait, there's a problem.
    According to this https://imgur.com/gallery/Su1RB even Star Trek Warp 9.99 is less than 8000 X light-speed.

    And that's if we had ****ing invented warp speed in the first place!!!

    But like, theoretically...

    And could we head onto the future in any way at all?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 419 ✭✭A Battered Mars Bar


    So much negativity. Where there's a will there's a way. If neccessary we could fit a time travel device to it, so if it takes longer it can jump back in time to just 6 days later. You need to think outside the box, free your mind.

    Well if we go fitting time travelling devices to it...it would render my rudimentary telescope for viewing the past obsolete :p

    We could strap a radio thing to it with sticky tape and send lads radio signals when the radio gets invented. Tell them all about the future.

    Edit: oh no wait theyre dead :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 419 ✭✭A Battered Mars Bar


    Pique wrote: »
    Well if chatting ****e out loud got people places, you'd be nearly there by now.

    Howabout this. If we get just one nautical knot faster than the speed of light.....happy? Put the telescope flying in reverse away from Earth...then we can watch time travel backwards indefinitely at a rate of one nautical knot a year. Make a TV channel out of it or a public art piece for a roundabout in Galway or something


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,065 ✭✭✭Pique


    Howabout this. If we get just one nautical knot faster than the speed of light.....happy?

    I'd be ecstatic. It would mean that we'd found a way around the cosmic speed limit.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 419 ✭✭A Battered Mars Bar


    Pique wrote: »
    I'd be ecstatic. It would mean that we'd found a way around the cosmic speed limit.

    It's pretty easy. Just travel at the speed of light then stretch space itself like an elastic band and snap back. You've gone from one end to the other easy. Where's my cornflakes?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,065 ✭✭✭Pique


    And could we head onto the future in any way at all?

    Well if you travel through space you're aging slower than those on massive objects like earth so yeah. Every astronaut who has spent time on the ISS has technically time travelled as they will have aged slower than people on earth by a tiny bit. The closer you get to C the slower time gets so if you travel to Alpha Centauri at 0.95c, then for an earthbound observer, the time duration is 4.36 years. For people on the ship, the duration is only 1.36 years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 712 ✭✭✭Mean Laqueefa


    Pique wrote: »
    I'd be ecstatic. It would mean that we'd found a way around the cosmic speed limit.

    that cosmic speed limit is a joke anyway, just a racket for the space police to fill a quota.... What we need i a ring road name it Saturn or something and not allow galaxy high buses or hover cyclist that dont pay space tax btw to clog the spaceway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,097 ✭✭✭GTTDI GOD


    Make a really really powerful telescope that can travel really really fast.

    Send it 183 lightyears (taking about 6 days interstellar travel) into space, look back on Earth and find out if Jonathan the "183 year old" tortoise is telling the truth.

    What would you do if we had such abilities to view the past...bearing in mind viewing the past would be in GTA overhead camera style until such a time where viewing would be like the magic 3d Google maps God mode.

    You wouldn't have to send it 183 lightyears away, as that would show you earth 366 years ago, you only have to send it away half the time of what you want to see, as light will have to travel first to where you put a massive mirror, then travel back the same distance.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    that cosmic speed limit is a joke anyway, just a racket for the space police to fill a quota.... What we need i a ring road name it Saturn or something and not allow galaxy high buses or hover cyclist that dont pay space tax btw to clog the spaceway

    Interstellar speed limits are set by the Judoon (space police), so anything over sonic speed x max is outlawed. Hence even warp factor 1 is outlawed, and you don't want to mess with the Judoon, specially after what they did on the Moon!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,749 ✭✭✭Flippyfloppy


    Maybe we should send the telescope off 'not backwards' and attach a mirror to the front then we'd be able to see the future. Now that's the money spinner


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 737 ✭✭✭murphthesmurf


    Maybe we should attach a radio reciever tuned to RTE RNAG. As it is traveling faster than the speed of light it will be overtaking the radio waves, and thefore listening to the transmission in reverse. It could then transmit the reversed broadcast back to us. We might then be able to understand what they are saying.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,058 ✭✭✭whoopsadoodles


    I don't think we should let pique in on this plan. He'd be no craic. He'd probably pull a dictionary out when we were playing travel scrabble.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    ITT: Clickbait comes to AH. God almighty I despise headlines which don't tell your what they're about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,674 ✭✭✭Skatedude


    I'd like to send it out around 30 years so I can watch 'Manimal' tv series again. The ba5t3rds took it off and said they wont be showing it again pffft

    You can get the entire series on dvd for 15 quid on amazon. I have it already


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,832 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Lookit fools.

    What types of primary schools did you go to atall atall.

    From our frame of reference, it would take a minimum of 183m light years to get there. Obviously due to time dilation/length contraction, the telescope would age much less before getting there.

    However, the above neglects the fact that you need to accelerate up to the speed of light. As everyone knows, acceleration and gravity are the same thing. but the Special Relativistic equations do not account for acceleration - only constant speed. For that you need General Relativity. Of course, acceleration just causes a warping of space-time. Theoretically what you want to do is to be able to warp space time to create a singularity "worm hole" to punch through the space time as a shortcut.

    That's your only hope. And you need good quality turf for that.


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