La Vuelta STAGE 16 ITT 40.2km Circuito de Navarra / Logroño

neris

Into the last week and the race could be over today if Froome puts time into his rivals. A rolling ITT to kick the week off

ITT. 42-kilometre long flat individual time trial, among vineyards and wineries. A route for true specialists that will make big differences to the general classification. The stage is also twice as dangerous as it is being held straight after a rest day.

retalivity

Dennis has abandoned in the rest day.

Froome is going to put minutes into everyone else in the gc, more than likely take the stage as well.

Peterx

Poor Dennis. He had a good chance today

And I had him on velogames for that very reason 😂

dastardly00

neris wrote: »

Into the last week and the race could be over today if Froome puts time into his rivals. A rolling ITT to kick the week off

It's about as flat as a 40km ITT can get!

dastardly00

Froome to gain at least one minute on Nibbles and everyone else in the top-10 bar Contador and Kelderman.

Froome will probably win the stage also unless one of the Quick-Step lads does, either Jungels or Lampaert.

AG2R withdrew Geniez and Denz for holding on to the team car on Sunday.

Inquitus

Deleted User wrote: »

AG2R withdrew Geniez and Denz for holding on to the team car on Sunday.

Was a pretty bad example of holding onto a car, see video below:

https://twitter.com/ProCyclingStats/status/904728151972093953

dastardly00

Inquitus wrote: »

Was a pretty bad example of holding onto a car, see video below:

That's really taking the piss.

Was the video taken by another team car behind the AG2R car?

Inquitus

dastardly00 wrote: »

That's really taking the piss.

Was the video taken by another team car behind the AG2R car?

Don't know if it was a team car, it was certainly an approved Press / Team / Comm's car though to be where it was.

nc6000

I've walked from Los Arcos to Logrono a couple of times while doing The Camino. I was going a bit slower though and was mostly off road.

Inquitus

Some ride by Kamna, to go fastest so far!

Lotto rider gives Jungles a thumbs up as he's overtaken

MPFGLB

Lud-e-stein ? ...ha ha

retalivity

Contador flying, 5sec up on ludvigsson at first time check

retalivity

Jesus...kelderman caught chaves already

neris

froome already 11 seconds up on best time

neris

Race over

retalivity

Thats a ridiculous time by froome, vs the pure tt'ers.
The gc lads didnt fare as bad as i thought they would though...especially nibali

MPFGLB

Everyone who rode the Tour ....Contador, Chaves, Aru, Meinjies, Bardet & Roche ...have gotten tired

Everyone that is but Froome....he has gotten stronger

Daroxtar

MPFGLB wrote: »

Everyone who rode the Tour ....Contador, Chaves, Aru, Meinjies, Bardet & Roche ...have gotten tired

Everyone that is but Froome....he has gotten stronger

He had an easy Tour, his teammates delivered it to him on a plate. He was overweight and had fk all altitude training. He used the Tour to get into shape for the Vuelta. Took a gamble and it's paid off.
I'm still hoping for some ambushing on Muchacos or the Angliru

dastardly00

Connor Dunne has moved from 169th to 164th... but he's still last :pac:
(due to 5 non-starters today)

MPFGLB

Daroxtar wrote: »

He had an easy Tour, his teammates delivered it to him on a plate. He was overweight and had fk all altitude training. He used the Tour to get into shape for the Vuelta. Took a gamble and it's paid off.
I'm still hoping for some ambushing on Muchacos or the Angliru

That Tour was not easy ..just ask Dan Martin, Fabio Aru or Romain Bardet . Froome was still last man standing at the end and no matter his team he still needed to be top condition on those climbs...dont believe the flannel out of SKY

And the Vuelta has been harder ...with no 'off' day and fast climbing on every stage ...every rider is saying so...look at Aquablue riders ...they dont know what hit them ....

Just amasing to be so strong as I said when everyone who rode the Tour is on their hands and knees

Eamonnator

Daroxtar wrote: »

He had an easy Tour, his teammates delivered it to him on a plate. He was overweight and had fk all altitude training. He used the Tour to get into shape for the Vuelta. Took a gamble and it's paid off.
I'm still hoping for some ambushing on Muchacos or the Angliru

Who do you think, will be fit to do the ambushing?

dastardly00

Eamonnator wrote: »

Who do you think, will be fit to do the ambushing?

Wout Poels is looking pretty amazing :pac:

MPFGLB

dastardly00 wrote: »

Wout Poels is looking pretty amazing :pac:

Lopez is the only hope .....The Shark might but he may not have it
Zakarin & kelderman may be happy to fight each other for podium

Only hope is if Contador & the Shark unite

Inquitus

MPFGLB wrote: »

Lopez is the only hope .....The Shark might but he may not have it
Zakarin & kelderman may be happy to fight each other for podium

Only hope is if Contador & the Shark unite

Lopez is 5m25s back, I don't think that's plausible, only Nibali is within striking distance and able to climb well enough to take enough time out of Froome. Froome goes well on these short steep efforts, like tomorrow and Belles Filles from the Tour, so I can't see him shipping time anywhere bar Angliru unless Sky let a Fromigal happen again which is doubtful, once bitten, twice shy and all that.

It's fair to say Froome deliberately changed his run in to the TDF from prior years, coming in undercooked and taking advantage of a poor parcours to win despite not being at his best, he is now reaping the benefits of that approach versus the other Tour riders. Nibali having done Giro / Vuelta is the only rider who could perhaps get stronger in the final week, as Froome fades if he does.

TheBlaaMan

Here's interesting little stat to back up the above.

The current positions of the GC contenders who also completed the TDF. Only Contador has improved - excluding the Kenyan alien...

https://twitter.com/faustocoppi60/status/905147353681813505

It's impossible to see Froome being beaten at this stage, but what chances for a fair bit of change in the other podium positions? Angliru will tell a lot, so it will go down to the wire.

I must find a way to watch tomorrows stage.........

pelevin

MPFGLB wrote: »

That Tour was not easy ..just ask Dan Martin, Fabio Aru or Romain Bardet . Froome was still last man standing at the end and no matter his team he still needed to be top condition on those climbs...dont believe the flannel out of SKY

And the Vuelta has been harder ...with no 'off' day and fast climbing on every stage ...every rider is saying so...look at Aquablue riders ...they dont know what hit them ....

Just amasing to be so strong as I said when everyone who rode the Tour is on their hands and knees

Everyone it seemed of the big guys who rode the Giro was absolutely on their knees in the Tour, except Landa who seemed as fresh as a daisy. And even after the Tour he still kept racing and winning. Seemed to have no tiredness issues at all.

retalivity

Im sensing a theme...

Inquitus

retalivity wrote: »

Im sensing a theme...

Landa bailed out of the Giro after his crash on stage 9.

pelevin

Inquitus wrote: »

Landa bailed out of the Giro after his crash on stage 9.

That's totally wrong. Landa wasn't in the hunt for gc obviously enough but he rode a very, very active Giro in the mountain stages. Relentlessly in the breaks and there at the end of most mountain stages, 3rd in stage 14, won stage 19, second in stage 18, 2nd in stage 16 - all stages very deep in the race & won the mountains classification by nearly double the total of the second placed rider. No resemblance to your description.

MPFGLB

Sometimes riding for stages can be harder than GC

You have to chase very hard to get in break and then ride in wind all day and then finish it off

Daroxtar

MPFGLB wrote: »

Lopez is the only hope .....The Shark might but he may not have it
Zakarin & kelderman may be happy to fight each other for podium

Only hope is if Contador & the Shark unite

This ^. I'm really hoping Bertie has some more wild attacks left and Nibali or Lopez goes with him. I can't see him wanting to go out without giving it a shot.
On his own, Lopez could try something early on the Angliru stage going off up the Corbetoria. It's wishful thinking but that's half of why I watch sports anyway.
FWIW I don’t begrudge Froome the win if he takes it. Can't stand Brailsford and the Sky machine but I don't mind Froome. His performances and battles (and failing) in the Vuelta over the last few years have made it great viewing.

pelevin

MPFGLB wrote: »

Sometimes riding for stages can be harder than GC

You have to chase very hard to get in break and then ride in wind all day and then finish it off

Landa was certainly riding a very hard Giro as well as during it riding whilst after a nasty injury which would take more again out of the body even if he was quiet in racing terms for a short while.

The comparison in the Tour then between him & riders like Pinot & Quintana who were clearly pretty shattered was staggering.