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Invasion of privacy from drone?

  • 22-08-2017 3:21am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52 ✭✭


    hi there

    a local property agent was taking photos of a property for sale two sites over from me. my own house is off the main road and cannot be seen at all from the public road. now I see my property and my back garden in the newspaper in the picture with the property for sale- is this not an invasion of privacy or a breach of the data protection act? isnt it giving information about peoples properties which could be used by criminls? I have a drone myself and am very responsible with it - I only use it for archaeological sites- but i must admit I was not happy seeing my private property in plain view for all to see in a newspaper


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,166 ✭✭✭Are Am Eye




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,998 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    emeldc wrote: »
    I think some of you are being incredibly naive if you think criminals are not already using this technology to suss out their victims . . .
    Maybe that farmer was talking horsesh1t, but he certainly wasn't being paronoid.
    Sussing out potential victims isn't an especially challening thing to do, and it certainly doesn't require high level and conspicuous technology. So I'm kind of sceptical that criminals are making much use of drones for this purpose. They don't need to, so why would they?

    But park that. It may not be paranoid to recognise that criminals might use this technology to suss out victims. But it certainly is paranoid to assume that whenever you see a drone being used, that's a criminal sussing out a victim.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,998 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    hashey wrote: »
    hi there

    a local property agent was taking photos of a property for sale two sites over from me. my own house is off the main road and cannot be seen at all from the public road. now I see my property and my back garden in the newspaper in the picture with the property for sale- is this not an invasion of privacy or a breach of the data protection act? isnt it giving information about peoples properties which could be used by criminls? I have a drone myself and am very responsible with it - I only use it for archaeological sites- but i must admit I was not happy seeing my private property in plain view for all to see in a newspaper
    Is the estate agent showing much more than someone could see using google maps, satellite view?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,639 ✭✭✭worded


    Get your own Drone - Drone Wars



    Drone wars begun has


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,158 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Falcons?

    Hawks, Eagles and Falcons are being used nowadays in various countries to tske them down.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,998 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    Hawks, Eagles and Falcons are being used nowadays in various countries to tske them down.
    Cite for this?

    I'm aware that birds of prey have taken down drones on occasion. (There's a video of one such incident in post #19 of this thread.) But is there evidence that they are being used for this purpose?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,627 ✭✭✭tedpan


    Peregrinus wrote:
    Cite for this?

    Google guard from above - also YouTube


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,158 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,140 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    hashey wrote: »
    hi there

    a local property agent was taking photos of a property for sale two sites over from me. my own house is off the main road and cannot be seen at all from the public road. now I see my property and my back garden in the newspaper in the picture with the property for sale- is this not an invasion of privacy or a breach of the data protection act? isnt it giving information about peoples properties which could be used by criminls? I have a drone myself and am very responsible with it - I only use it for archaeological sites- but i must admit I was not happy seeing my private property in plain view for all to see in a newspaper

    not sure what they could see that they can't see from aerial photos you can get in many places, although you could ask if it was necessary to show you property sometimes they grey them out in the newspaper.

    DPC guidance on drones Guidance on the use of Drones https://www.dataprotection.ie/docs/Guidance-on-the-use-of-Drone-Aircraft/1510.htm
    Legitimate use of drones in a domestic Setting
    The processing of personal data kept by an individual and concerned solely with the management of his/her personal, family or household affairs or kept by an individual for recreational purposes is exempt from the provisions of the Data Protection Acts. This exemption, sometimes called the “household exemption”, would generally apply to the handling of the personal data of private persons, as long as this takes place for personal, non-commercial purposes.

    However, a recent decision of the Court of Justice of the European Union (CJEU) in December 2014 (C-212/13)[3] (http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:62013CJ0212) found that video surveillance by an individual of a public area outside his home fell under the Data Protection Directive. The Court found that as the CCTV also monitored a public space, it did not amount to the processing of data in the course of a purely personal or household activity, for the purposes of the “household exemption”.

    As a result, anyone intending to use a drone should ensure that it does not inadvertently capture personal data from third persons as this will mean that thet Data Protection Acts will apply and drone operators will have to ensure that the safeguards and obligations set out below are met. Personal data would include, for instance, facial images or car registration plates.
    although I think there a difference between once off and constant CCTV


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,605 ✭✭✭gctest50


    Peregrinus wrote: »
    Cite for this?

    I'm aware that birds of prey have taken down drones on occasion. (There's a video of one such incident in post #19 of this thread.) But is there evidence that they are being used for this purpose?


    The first police eagles are trained :



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,627 ✭✭✭tedpan


    gctest50 wrote:
    The first police eagles are trained :


    Cool, but I don't know how the eagles are not getting hurt. A phantom propeller would take your finger off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,089 ✭✭✭✭P. Breathnach


    tedpan wrote: »
    Cool, but I don't know how the eagles are not getting hurt. A phantom propeller would take your finger off.
    Eagles don't have fingers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,627 ✭✭✭tedpan


    Eagles don't have fingers.

    Lol, I think it could damage a talon when the props are spinning at speed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,554 ✭✭✭Pat Mustard


    Mod note:

    The above posts have been split off from the older thread, which still remains here.

    Also, damage to eagles from drones is a bit off topic for legal discussion on privacy, so maybe we could move back on topic.


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