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Army using speed guns

  • 22-08-2017 1:29pm
    #1
    beer enigma
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,213 ✭✭✭


    Driving from Cork to Dublin yesterday and I saw two army guys in uniform using a speed gun on the M8. They were resting on the bonnet of an army vehicle so no doubt who they were - presumably from the nearby Kilworth base.

    I'm guessing they were practicing its use, but would they really use them on base ?


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  • #2
    ScouseMouse
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,070 ✭✭✭ScouseMouse


    Probably military police checking army vehicles.


  • #3
    rex-x
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,893 ✭✭✭rex-x


    The gardai cant arrest or punish someone in the army, it must the their own army police


  • #4
    beer enigma
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,213 ✭✭✭beer enigma


    ScouseMouse wrote: »
    Probably military police checking army vehicles.

    Actually they did have red caps on now I think.


  • #5
    Mint Sauce
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    Checking their own personal. Apparently quite strict too.


  • #6
    Barry Badrinath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭Barry Badrinath


    rex-x wrote: »
    The gardai cant arrest or punish someone in the army, it must the their own army police

    Not true


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  • #7
    Barry Badrinath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭Barry Badrinath


    Mint Sauce wrote: »
    Checking their own personal. Apparently quite strict too.

    True


  • #8
    Mint Sauce
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    Senor Fancy Pants wrote: »
    True

    Fines, points, disciplinary action, the whole hog I believe.


  • #9
    tossy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,594 ✭✭✭tossy


    rex-x wrote: »
    The gardai cant arrest or punish someone in the army, it must the their own army police

    :D


  • #10
    mikeecho
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,267 ✭✭✭mikeecho


    http://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057594322/1/#post99628333

    http://touch.boards.ie/thread/2056755085/1/#post80770188

    http://touch.boards.ie/thread/2056691954/1/#post79563220

    http://touch.boards.ie/thread/2055955934/1/#post66688913

    http://touch.boards.ie/thread/2055955936/1/#post66688951

    http://touch.boards.ie/thread/2055957264/1/#post66712244

    http://touch.boards.ie/thread/2055147104/1/#post53914587

    http://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057532020/1/#post97962698


    It's a common occurance


  • #11
    Odyssey 2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,065 ✭✭✭✭Odyssey 2005


    Mint Sauce wrote: »
    Checking their own personal. Apparently quite strict too.

    Saw a big movement from kk hearing to cork today. The N76 is the main road :confused:for the army.


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  • #12
    rex-x
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,893 ✭✭✭rex-x


    Senor Fancy Pants wrote: »
    Not true

    For many things it is, my brother is in the army :)


  • #13
    Barry Badrinath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭Barry Badrinath


    Mint Sauce wrote: »
    Fines, points, disciplinary action, the whole hog I believe.

    Fines/points no, the DF MP's have no authority for FCPN or issue of PP's

    Disciplinary action, yes, may result in loss of military driving licence and financial loss.


  • #14
    mikeecho
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,267 ✭✭✭mikeecho


    rex-x wrote: »
    For many things it is, my brother is in the army :)

    :rolleyes:


  • #15
    boardsuser1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,196 ✭✭✭boardsuser1


    A private I know who to this day is still serving left the barracks one night to go home in his car, he was drunk, crashed into 2 parked cars leaving them written off plus his own.

    Gardai arrested him at the scene and took him to the local station.

    He was charged with drink driving.

    In a civilian court he was convicted and disqualified.


  • #16
    Barry Badrinath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭Barry Badrinath


    rex-x wrote: »
    For many things it is, my brother is in the army :)

    I'm in the army.

    Members of the DF are bound by both civilian and military law.

    If you break civilian law, the AGS can and do arrest and charge you. This will result in military disciplinary action being taken against you too.


  • #17
    Riva10
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭Riva10


    rex-x wrote: »
    The gardai cant arrest or punish someone in the army, it must the their own army police

    Another urban myth :D


  • #18
    opti76
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 647 ✭✭✭opti76


    Riva10 wrote: »
    Another urban myth :D

    but ..... but .. his brother is in the army ...


  • #19
    Riva10
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭Riva10


    opti76 wrote: »
    but ..... but .. his brother is in the army ...

    So was Sgt. Bilko :eek:


  • #20
    Donal55
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭Donal55


    opti76 wrote: »
    but ..... but .. his brother is in the army ...

    And Gerry Adams wasn't.....


  • #21
    xabi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,020 ✭✭✭xabi


    But did he have his cap on


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  • #22
    mikeecho
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,267 ✭✭✭mikeecho


    xabi wrote: »
    But did he have his cap on

    He temporarily took it off , to allow a pregnant woman take a massive shît in it.


  • #23
    CeilingFly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭CeilingFly


    rex-x wrote: »
    The gardai cant arrest or punish someone in the army, it must the their own army police
    Riva10 wrote: »
    Another urban myth :D

    I think the rex post was worded incorrectly - I'd assume that a garda cannot arrest or punish an army member whilst that member is on official duty. Once off duty he/she would be considered a civilian and gardai would treat as same.


  • #24
    Tigger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    Cork Truck Driver wrote: »
    A private I know who to this day is still serving left the barracks one night to go home in his car, he was drunk, crashed into 2 parked cars leaving them written off plus his own.

    Gardai arrested him at the scene and took him to the local station.

    He was charged with drink driving.

    In a civilian court he was convicted and disqualified.

    He was off duty


  • #25
    boardsuser1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,196 ✭✭✭boardsuser1


    Tigger wrote: »
    He was off duty

    Got into his car in the barracks itself while drunk.

    Does that matter?

    No idea how the army work in that regard.


  • #26
    kdevitt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,331 ✭✭✭kdevitt


    I got done for speeding a long time back in Mitchelstown - was a soldier using the speed gun, garda stopped me for the 'chat'.


  • #27
    mikeecho
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,267 ✭✭✭mikeecho


    Tigger wrote: »
    He was off duty

    Irrelevant.

    The law of the land still stands.

    So , if a soldior murders a civilian for no reason, but is 'on the clock' so to speak..
    The gardai don't deal with it....... ahhh.. no


    Seriously, are bar stoll lawyers just freemen in inebriation


  • #28
    L1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,186 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    You'll see this quite commonly on the M8 for Kilworth and the M7 for the Curragh. Along with seeing APCs with L plates, its one of the odder aspects of Kildare life.


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