Satan,devil and dark forces

beefburrito

As a Christian,what are your thoughts on the dark side ?
Have any of you ever had an encounter with an evil presence or felt like something inherently evil was in your presence.

It's not all sunshine lollipop s and rainbows....

I remember old people years ago talking about the Quare fellow,and some stories about himself paying someone local a visit or a crossroads where someone encountered The DEVIL himself.....

Isn't it ironic about Chapter 13 verse number 18 in revelations that 13 is an unlucky number and 18 is 3 time's 6.....

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beefburrito wrote: »

As a Christian,what are your thoughts on the dark side ?
Have any of you ever had an encounter with an evil presence or felt like something inherently evil was in your presence.

It's not all sunshine lollipop s and rainbows....

I remember old people years ago talking about the Quare fellow,and some stories about himself paying someone local a visit or a crossroads where someone encountered The DEVIL himself.....

Isn't it ironic about Chapter 13 verse number 18 in revelations that 13 is an unlucky number and 18 is 3 time's 6.....

Nothing ironic about it as the chapters and verses arent in the original text. I do however like Star wars and have a great sympathy for Darth Vadar:rolleyes:

beefburrito

Camron Cold Flashlight wrote: »

Nothing ironic about it as the chapters and verses arent in the original text. I do however like Star wars and have a great sympathy for Darth Vadar:rolleyes:

The force is strong in you,come with me to the dark side,and together well bring balance to the galaxy ðŸ˜

Pat D. Almighty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCJblaUkkfc

Great song written about the authors personal experience with the devil.

kelly1

I haven't had any direct experiences of evil that I know of.

According to Christian theology, in the spiritual realm the only persons/beings that exist are, God, the angels and humans.

I'm not sure what you mean by the "dark side" but Christians believe that demons are fallen angels which are allowed exist on earth in order to test humans.

Are Am Eye

beefburrito wrote: »

As a Christian,what are your thoughts on the dark side ?
Have any of you ever had an encounter with an evil presence or felt like something inherently evil was in your presence.

It's not all sunshine lollipop s and rainbows....

I remember old people years ago talking about the Quare fellow,and some stories about himself paying someone local a visit or a crossroads where someone encountered The DEVIL himself.....

Isn't it ironic about Chapter 13 verse number 18 in revelations that 13 is an unlucky number and 18 is 3 time's 6.....

These things exist and grow if you dwell on them. Think of peace and love and nothing else.

smacl

kelly1 wrote: »

According to Christian theology, in the spiritual realm the only persons/beings that exist are, God, the angels and humans.

I'm not sure what you mean by the "dark side" but Christians believe that demons are fallen angels which are allowed exist on earth in order to test humans.

I'm guessing the OP is referring to the many demons in Christian mythology. While they may be fallen angels, angelic they aren't.

branie2

No

Effects

Bad vibe off these dudes. Plenty of dark force involved with many of their actions.

EirWatchr

The devil and his demons are spiritual beings - i.e. have intelligence but no physical form of their own to be observed. Their ordinary form of action in our world is through temptation. Believing them non-existent gives them power to do so unnoticed (but for their effects), and unopposed.

“The devil's finest trick is to persuade you that he does not exist.”
― Charles Baudelaire

To answer the OP’s query about the Christian perspective:

“The Son of God appeared, that he might destroy the works of the devil.”
- 1 John 3:8

Those works continue today. Jesus drove extraordinary demonic possessions out of people in several biblical accounts, and exorcists today attest that the only thing ultimately effective in exorcism is prayerful invocation of the authority of Jesus Christ over him.

Effects

EirWatchr wrote: »

exorcists today attest that the only thing ultimately effective in exorcism is prayerful invocation of the authority of Jesus Christ over him.

Isn't there a homeopathic remedy that's just as effective?

EirWatchr

Effects wrote: »

Isn't there a homeopathic remedy that's just as effective?

No. New Age practices are more often the cause, never the remedy.

Effects

EirWatchr wrote: »

No. New Age practices are more often the cause, never the remedy.

So you're saying that demonic possessions are caused by sucrose pills?
That's a bit of a stretch.

EirWatchr

Effects wrote: »

So you're saying that demonic possessions are caused by sucrose pills?

No, I didn't:

New Age practices are more often the cause, never the remedy

Effects wrote: »

That's a bit of a stretch.

It is - taking a breath mint wouldn’t cause one either.

Homeopathy seductively claims to be more than just a sugar pill, and “prescribed” by some New Age spiritualists as part of their holistic treatments which involve (or can lead to) hazardous spiritual practices.

kelly1

Effects wrote: »

So you're saying that demonic possessions are caused by sucrose pills?
That's a bit of a stretch.

Stop trolling.

Delirium

Effects wrote: »

So you're saying that demonic possessions are caused by sucrose pills?
That's a bit of a stretch.

MOD NOTE

Please cease with the time-wasting posts.

Thanks for your attention.

Delirium

kelly1 wrote: »

Stop trolling.

MOD NOTE

Please use the report button rather than back-seat moderate.

Thanks for your attention.

J C

beefburrito wrote: »

Isn't it ironic about Chapter 13 verse number 18 in revelations that 13 is an unlucky number and 18 is 3 time's 6.....

It is indeed ironic ...

Revelation 13:18New International Version (NIV)

18 This calls for wisdom. Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man. That number is 666.

branie2

Ever see the Omen trilogy?

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J C wrote: »

It is indeed ironic ...

Revelation 13:18New International Version (NIV)

18 This calls for wisdom. Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man. That number is 666.

And previous to 18 is:
16. He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, Gal. 6:17; Rev. 7:3; 14:9; 20:4 to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads
17 and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or Rev. 14:9–11the name of the beast, Rev. 15:2or the number of his name.

Welcome to RFID payment cards.

LostHiigaran

What are peoples thoughts that the Bible is a collection of mythologies bound together to give the understanding at the time to the presence and rise of consciousness, good and evil etc? God being our consciousness and the stories are life lessons, telling the stories and tribulations to lead to the Christian ideal of the (almost) perfect archetype (Jesus).

Almost all of the Bible is a primer if seen in that sense, and it does not need literal interpretation or the denial of God. Satan, evil and the struggle to be close to God are within us and our own struggle to contend with, in which overcoming them is being closer to God. What are peoples thoughts on this?

antiskeptic

LostHiigaran wrote: »

What are peoples thoughts that the Bible is a collection of mythologies bound together to give the understanding at the time to the presence and rise of consciousness, good and evil etc? God being our consciousness and the stories are life lessons, telling the stories and tribulations to lead to the Christian ideal of the (almost) perfect archetype (Jesus).

Given it's the Christian forum, where many will say they have had a personal encounter with this God, mythology doesn't "fit"

Certainly there are life lessons in there, and we are made in the image of God so to a degree God is our consciousness. And conscience.

I'm not sure what you mean by almost perfect Jesus. What's imperfect about him?

Almost all of the Bible is a primer if seen in that sense, and it does not need literal interpretation or the denial of God. Satan, evil and the struggle to be close to God are within us and our own struggle to contend with, in which overcoming them is being closer to God. What are peoples thoughts on this?

I'm not sure how you engage in the struggle to be closer to God without actively believing he exists. Otherwise you are left trying to follow the advice of the mere men who recorded the mythology.

Since the "mythology" advises us to lean heavily on God for our progress (without me, you can do nothing), it would seem the necessary relationship can't be hollowed out, as you appear to be suggesting.

J C

Hank Wonderful Bridge wrote: »

And previous to 18 is:
16. He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, Gal. 6:17; Rev. 7:3; 14:9; 20:4 to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads
17 and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or Rev. 14:9–11the name of the beast, Rev. 15:2or the number of his name.

Welcome to RFID payment cards.

You don't need the number 666 to buy ...
... but to sell ... :eek: ...

Almost everything sold must have a Barcode.
http://www.judaismvschristianity.com/666_in_barcodes.htm

We don't have to take a mark/chip on/in our right hand or forehead ...

... but ... you can have a chip inserted in your left hand voluntarily ... that you can use for buying !!!

http://www.independent.ie/world-news/us-company-holds-chip-party-to-microchip-workers-35993239.html

All the technology is there to fulfill Rev 13 ... but making it mandatory and as a token of worship of the Antichrist, is required to fulfill it.

Revelation 14:9-11New International Version (NIV)

9 A third angel followed them and said in a loud voice: “If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives its mark on their forehead or on their hand, 10 they, too, will drink the wine of God’s fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath. They will be tormented with burning sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb. 11 And the smoke of their torment will rise for ever and ever. There will be no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and its image, or for anyone who receives the mark of its name.”