Tissot V8 opinion

StereoSound

I'm looking at my first Swiss piece, I seen this particular Tissot and I like it alot. It's abit cheaper here on watchshop compared to a jewellers in Stillorgan I seen it in. Watch fits great and I like it. What's the quality like compared to say a TAG? It's unfortunately a quartz if thats a bad thing in Swiss pieces?

http://www.watchshop.com/mens-tissot-v8-chronograph-watch-t1064171105100-p99998437.html

Also I am looking at this Citizen Perpetual calender watch. There is alot more technology in this piece. It's atomic and solar powered, world time and has an alarm.
It's more expensive to. I don't know what peoples perceptions are on a more expensive Citizen then a cheaper Swiss watch?

http://www.watchshop.com/mens-citizen-chrono-perpetual-a-t-alarm-chronograph-radio-controlled-eco-drive-watch-at4008-51e-p99940677.html?rcproduct=1

Frankie5Angels

Others will be along with better advice/knowledge, but if you're willing to spend 500, why not hit Kildare Village and get an automatic Tissot (or Hamilton/Certina/Mido)? I was down recently and saw a few decent Tissot watches for around the 500 mark - i'll see if they're still on the phone, if you like?

StereoSound

Frankie5Angels wrote: »

Others will be along with better advice/knowledge, but if you're willing to spend 500, why not hit Kildare Village and get an automatic Tissot (or Hamilton/Certina/Mido)? I was down recently and saw a few decent Tissot watches for around the 500 mark - i'll see if they're still on the phone, if you like?

Yes would be of interest thanks

the-island-man

Sold new on Swiss equivalent of donedeal/adverts just over 1 month ago for 185 Francs:

https://www.ricardo.ch/kaufen/uhren-und-schmuck/modische-markenuhren/tissot/tissot-men-s-v8-chronograph-black-dial/v/an916860254/

I know there are import tariffs and wage costs with Jewellers but 185 Francs is ~160 euro meaning there's more than a 100% markup on the watch shop website and even more in the Stillorgan jewellers.

Frankie5Angels

The Titanium one is very light, nice watch at 500 if I recall. Seastar also comes in the blue version, both 520.

The 'chrono' came in at 600 or so I think, but I realise that's a bit out of your budget.

BTW, I realise these don't have subdials and that you linked two watches with subdials . Again, there would be some decent deals on similar quartz ones down there, certainly in comparison to the prices you'd pay on Watchshop.

art

There's a Tissot chrono on adverts at the moment - looks like it can be had for €200

http://www.adverts.ie/casual/men-s-tissot-couturier-chronograph-watch/13487224

I have no knowledge or relationship with either the watch or seller so am not specifically recommending it, but it would be a cheap way to dip your toe in the water etc

art

StereoSound wrote: »

It's unfortunately a quartz if thats a bad thing in Swiss pieces?

and the answer to that is "no" .. .you're paying for a certain level of quality control when you buy genuine Swiss made; in terms of the movement it's just a choice thing, though you won't get a proper quality mechanical chrono in the price range you are looking at, only quartz.

StereoSound

I keep going to buy that Tissot V8 but then I stop. I don't think I like the monochrome dial. If only there was some red on the hands or somewhere on the dial I'd go for it. Maybe I'm being silly or awkward about that one.

Frankie5Angels

There's red in the PRS200 on that site? Might not be to your taste.

http://www.watchshop.com/mens-tissot-prs200-chronograph-watch-t0674172105100-p99940312.html

StereoSound

Frankie5Angels wrote: »

There's red in the PRS200 on that site? Might not be to your taste.

http://www.watchshop.com/mens-tissot-prs200-chronograph-watch-t0674172105100-p99940312.html

I saw that one , that red marker on top of the bezel turns me off it though.

Frankie5Angels

Just going back to the citizen you mentioned above (and assuming you were willing to spend the 500), what about this one:

https://www.anytimewatches.com/ie/tissot-t100-417-16-051-00.html

A bit more expensive, I know, just throwing it out there though. Also a few on bracelet on that site, have a gander (again, may be more than you're willing to spend).

StereoSound

Frankie5Angels wrote: »

Just going back to the citizen you mentioned above (and assuming you were willing to spend the 500), what about this one:

https://www.anytimewatches.com/ie/tissot-t100-417-16-051-00.html

A bit more expensive, I know, just throwing it out there though. Also a few on bracelet on that site, have a gander (again, may be more than you're willing to spend).

That's a great looking watch

Frankie5Angels

I've a 516 auto, which I really like, I think they're a lovely watch for the money.

Ok, a couple more suggestions, and then my well has run dry! :pac: (I'm ridiculously busy in work, you can probably tell).

I've never bought off these guys, so I can't vouch for them, but their prices are cheaper (though you could also be waiting a couple of weeks for it)...

https://www.precisiontime.co.uk/tissot-t1004171103100-t-sport-watch.html

https://www.precisiontime.co.uk/tissot-t1004171605100-t-sport-watch.html (same watch as above, just cheaper).



EDIT: 2000 POSTS! WOO! Do I get a free watch from the forum for reaching this milestone?!

Chuck_Norris

Just as a heads up/ word of caution about current gen Tissot. The majority of their current watches seem to have disposable movements. As in, I highly doubt they are servicing them, and are just doing movement swaps.
I bought an automatic PRC 200 chronograph 4 years ago, but about a year ago it started to lose about 30 seconds a day. Dropped it in to a watchmaker mate, as I don't have all the tools required to service any more. I knew the column wheel was nylon/ plastic on these, but it turns out the whole power train, including the escapement are plastic. Long story short, it had to be returned to Tissot for service as no watchmakers in Ireland would go near it. If I had paid full whack for the service it would have been over €350 cost to me, and I'm pretty damn sure the movement was swapped, as is my watchmaker mate.
So, ultimately what I'm saying is, Tissot appear to have their design sorted out, but the movements are of p155 poor quality. So, buyer beware.

StereoSound

Chuck_Norris wrote: »

Just as a heads up/ word of caution about current gen Tissot. The majority of their current watches seem to have disposable movements. As in, I highly doubt they are servicing them, and are just doing movement swaps.
I bought an automatic PRC 200 chronograph 4 years ago, but about a year ago it started to lose about 30 seconds a day. Dropped it in to a watchmaker mate, as I don't have all the tools required to service any more. I knew the column wheel was nylon/ plastic on these, but it turns out the whole power train, including the escapement are plastic. Long story short, it had to be returned to Tissot for service as no watchmakers in Ireland would go near it. If I had paid full whack for the service it would have been over €350 cost to me, and I'm pretty damn sure the movement was swapped, as is my watchmaker mate.
So, ultimately what I'm saying is, Tissot appear to have their design sorted out, but the movements are of p155 poor quality. So, buyer beware.

Plastic movements

Chuck_Norris

StereoSound wrote: »

Plastic movements

Very plastic movements, with the quartz being worse than the mechanicals. The SWATCH group are seriously trying their best to destroy the Swiss industry.

Anjobe

Chuck_Norris wrote: »

Just as a heads up/ word of caution about current gen Tissot. The majority of their current watches seem to have disposable movements. As in, I highly doubt they are servicing them, and are just doing movement swaps.
I bought an automatic PRC 200 chronograph 4 years ago, but about a year ago it started to lose about 30 seconds a day. Dropped it in to a watchmaker mate, as I don't have all the tools required to service any more. I knew the column wheel was nylon/ plastic on these, but it turns out the whole power train, including the escapement are plastic. Long story short, it had to be returned to Tissot for service as no watchmakers in Ireland would go near it. If I had paid full whack for the service it would have been over €350 cost to me, and I'm pretty damn sure the movement was swapped, as is my watchmaker mate.
So, ultimately what I'm saying is, Tissot appear to have their design sorted out, but the movements are of p155 poor quality. So, buyer beware.

You don't think this is just a tad harsh? You can't really expect a €700 watch to have a €400 movement. Tissot do make chronographs with better movements (Valjoux 7753 etc) but they are twice the price of a PRC 200.

Incidentally, some highly regarded chronograph movements such as the Lemania 5100 (on which the Tissot C01.211 is based) and 1861 also used some plastic parts.

Chuck_Norris

Anjobe wrote: »

You don't think this is just a tad harsh?  You can't really expect a €700 watch to have a €400 movement.  Tissot do make chronographs with better movements (Valjoux 7753 etc) but they are twice the price of a PRC 200.

Incidentally, some highly regarded chronograph movements such as the Lemania 5100 (on which the Tissot C01.211 is based) and 1861 also used some plastic parts.

Do I think it's a tad harsh, both yes and no.

I'm not foolish I ought to think any of the 775X series would be included in a watch at that price point, and am very aware of the Lemania movements having worked in them in the past, but there is no comparison between it and the C01.211. When the whole power train, and escapement are plastic, there are going to be costly issues down the road.

If it's more cost effective to do a movement swap as part of a service, be that with a mechanical or quartz movement, I'd question its use in the first instance.

And the last point coming from me as a trained watchmaker, paying half the initial purchase value of the watch for a "service" two years down the road doesn't make sense for the buyer.

Don't get me wrong, I love the look of the watch, but I just wanted to highlight a personal experience I have had with the brand, and the professional experiences of some of my friends in the industry with the current crop of SWATCH group watches.

art

Not an owner, and not sure what my own opinion really is yet, but think the term "plastic" there has connotations that perhaps don't help the argument - e.g. if the escapement was made from an "advanced synthetic compound with high lubricity" would it be as bad?

Chuck_Norris

art wrote: »

Not an owner, and not sure what my own opinion really is yet, but think the term "plastic" there has connotations that perhaps don't help the argument - e.g. if the escapement was made from an "advanced synthetic compound with high lubricity" would it be as bad?

Agreed art. The name given to the prices used in the Lemania movement named above was Delrim, if I'm not mistaken. And I'm not taking issue with the uses of synthetic materials as such, they serve a purpose in certain applications. And I'm not trying come across as some Luddite, completely against innovation, I'm not. All I was doing was relaying personal experience of mine, and professional experiences of friends.

Lorddrakul

That V8 is a very nice watch.

However, as a bit of sideways punt, as the V8 is clearly an Omega Speedmaster homage, why not go for something that has a little more actual heritage, and a nice technical pedigree too.

The Bulova Moonwatch:


It can be had for similar money and gets you into the high accuracy quartz (262kHz) range of movements.

They can be had brand new for about €350 from eBay dealers.

CarltonBrowne

Lorddrakul wrote: »

That V8 is a very nice watch.

However, as a bit of sideways punt, as the V8 is clearly an Omega Speedmaster homage, why not go for something that has a little more actual heritage, and a nice technical pedigree too.

The Bulova Moonwatch:


It can be had for similar money and gets you into the high accuracy quartz (262kHz) range of movements.

They can be had brand new for about €350 from eBay dealers.

That's an excellent suggestion but I would check the size on these first; they're rather large. They seem to be stocked in many of the obvious high st jewellers in the UK so hopefully it shouldn't be too difficult to try one on first.

Lorddrakul

CarltonBrowne wrote: »

That's an excellent suggestion but I would check the size on these first; they're rather large. They seem to be stocked in many of the obvious high st jewellers in the UK so hopefully it shouldn't be too difficult to try one on first.

They are a bit big, but I like that

They are widely available, but the price seems to be fairly consistent.

As I'll never afford an actual Speedmaster, I reckon I'll go for one at some stage.