Dublin Airport Carparks - WHATS WRONG WITH IRISH PEOPLE!!

jjmcclure

Hi

I park at Dublin Airport short term car parks 3 to 4 days a week. Every time I return to my car after being away for a few days there is a new ding or scratch from people opening their doors and not giving a feck about damaging other peoples property.

Why do Irish people care so little about damaging other peoples property.
I am Irish by the way and would never ever do this!:mad:

jimmycrackcorm

What makes you think it's Irish people doing it? Surely a number of people might be living here but flying back home more regularly than Irish people traveling?

Anyway it's company car drivers doing it, they don't care.

liger

jjmcclure wrote: »

Hi

I park at Dublin Airport short term car parks 3 to 4 days a week. Every time I return to my car after being away for a few days there is a new ding or scratch from people opening their doors :

I know people should take more care but that short term car park is an awful tight squeeze for most spaces.

AlekSmart

jjmcclure wrote: »

Hi

I park at Dublin Airport short term car parks 3 to 4 days a week. Every time I return to my car after being away for a few days there is a new ding or scratch from people opening their doors and not giving a feck about damaging other peoples property.

Why do Irish people care so little about damaging other peoples property.
I am Irish by the way and would never ever do this!:mad:

It's a good job you dont park in France...a stroll along any French street will reveal very few vehicles,of all ages,that do not have a collection of scratches,dents and scrapes......

Mr.Frame

jjmcclure wrote: »

Hi

I park at Dublin Airport short term car parks 3 to 4 days a week. Every time I return to my car after being away for a few days there is a new ding or scratch from people opening their doors and not giving a feck about damaging other peoples property.

Why do Irish people care so little about damaging other peoples property.
I am Irish by the way and would never ever do this!:mad:

The problem is that the car parking spaces at Dublin Airport are far too narrow to accommodate cars.
It is something the DAA really should look at

punisher5112

Stack em pack em and rack em.....

Fit as many in means more money...

devnull

The problem is even if you feel they are, the DAA full well know if they increased the spaces they'd fit less cars in there therefore it's a non starter until a lot more car park spaces come on stream so enlarging the car park spaces doesn't impact their revenue.

The car parks are booming as well - so much so that this year the car park shuttle bus operators have had to acquire additional vehicles in the last few months to meet demand for them.

GhostyMcGhost

devnull wrote: »

The problem is even if you feel they are, the DAA full well know if they increased the spaces they'd fit less cars in there therefore it's a non starter until a lot more car park spaces come on stream so enlarging the car park spaces doesn't impact their revenue.

The car parks are booming as well - so much so that this year the car park shuttle bus operators have had to acquire additional vehicles in the last few months to meet demand for them.

Long term parking is fine. Even driving up a level it’s desperately bad in the short term parking. Almost as bad as what they charge for it

Even a quick same day UK and back flight, I’d be in red or blue

punisher5112

Db have plenty of routes serving also.

TheRiverman

The size of the parking spaces in the short term car park is a disgrace,way too narrow with outrageous hourly charges to park there.There is also the awful problem of idiots leaving the back wheel of their car on the white line or over it into the next space.
Whoever designed it must think we all get out of our cars through the sun roof.

the_syco

jjmcclure wrote: »

Why do Irish people care so little about damaging other peoples property.
I am Irish by the way and would never ever do this!:mad:

Because they won't get caught. I find chance of getting caught versus chance of giving a damn to be linked.

Hitman3000

jjmcclure wrote:

Why do Irish people care so little about damaging other peoples property. I am Irish by the way and would never ever do this!

I have driven on the continent multiple times, I can assure you it is not an exclusively Irish/Ireland problem.

J.pilkington

jjmcclure wrote: »

Hi

I park at Dublin Airport short term car parks 3 to 4 days a week. Every time I return to my car after being away for a few days there is a new ding or scratch from people opening their doors and not giving a feck about damaging other peoples property.

Why do Irish people care so little about damaging other peoples property.
I am Irish by the way and would never ever do this!:mad:

Out of interest are your weekly flights to Donegal? as lack of respect for other people's property is not an Irish phenomenon! Every country in the world has it, in fact I'd say Irish people rank high in respecting other people's property.

As other posters have mentioned, try visiting the med / Eastern Europe and you'll have a new appreciation for parking in Ireland. In some cities it's customary to not apply handbrake to allow cars squeeze tightly together

howiya

Deedsie wrote: »

The actual problem is too many people drive to the airport. There are plenty of buses that could bring people to and from the airport.

Save yourself some money, petrol and parking charges, avoid M50 traffic congestion and tolls and stop getting dings on your car.

Aircoach is a perfectly viable alternative...

Bus services to and from parts of Dublin to and from the airport either don't exist or are completely inadequate

trellheim

Bus services to and from parts of Dublin to and from the airport either don't exist or are completely inadequate

Fair point. But at what point does a cab ride be the cheaper option ( include the hassle factor of getting the bus to said carparks plus chance of it getting damage ) .

I have not left the motor in the carparks to fly for many years its just plain not worth it unless you have more than a carful or going for a long time

Isambard

Deedsie wrote: »

The actual problem is too many people drive to the airport. There are plenty of buses that could bring people to and from the airport.

Save yourself some money, petrol and parking charges, avoid M50 traffic congestion and tolls and stop getting dings on your car.

Aircoach is a perfectly viable alternative...

Not from everywhere and the same goes for DB. I'd wager more people from outside Dublin use the airport than from the City.

jjmcclure

Bus is not a viable option when you are traveling all the time, especially when you are on 6 or 7 am flights. I fly every week from Dublin airport for work. I guess it is not an Irish problem but I can't understand the mentality. I would never do it and am extremly careful when getting into and out of my car in tight spaces.

Some folk just don't give a ^&%$

devnull

jjmcclure wrote: »

Bus is not a viable option when you are traveling all the time, especially when you are on 6 or 7 am flights. I fly every week from Dublin airport for work. I guess it is not an Irish problem but I can't understand the mentality. I would never do it and am extremly careful when getting into and out of my car in tight spaces.

Some folk just don't give a ^&%$

Aircoach is 24 hours, but it's true they don't cover a lot of the city and the south in general is much better served than the North.

JeffKenna

Deedsie wrote: »

Isambard wrote: »

Not from everywhere and the same goes for DB. I'd wager more people from outside Dublin use the airport than from the City.

From where in Ireland can you not get a public transport to Dublin Airport?

A lot of places in Ireland you'd find it hard to get public transport to the nearest town not to mention Dublin airport.

seamus

It's just a lump of metal.

If you want to keep it pristine, don't take it out in public.

jjmcclure

seamus wrote: »

It's just a lump of metal.

If you want to keep it pristine, don't take it out in public.

Great attitude there. Its a lump of metal I work hard to pay for. Is it too much to expect people to show a little respect for other peoples property?

kravmaga

jjmcclure wrote: »

Hi

I park at Dublin Airport short term car parks 3 to 4 days a week. Every time I return to my car after being away for a few days there is a new ding or scratch from people opening their doors and not giving a feck about damaging other peoples property.

Why do Irish people care so little about damaging other peoples property.
I am Irish by the way and would never ever do this!:mad:

eh your post is a bit of a generalisation, why and how would you state its Irish public are damaging cars??? Dublin is a multi-cultural city and that applies to Dublin airport also.

In my experience the parking bays/spaces are not wide enough especially for 4x4 or larger saloon cars hence doors can connect with the adjacent parked car quite easily, this happens in supermarket and shopping centre car parks also not just in Dublin airport.

Hitman3000

jjmcclure wrote:

Great attitude there. Its a lump of metal I work hard to pay for. Is it too much to expect people to show a little respect for other peoples property?

Here's a solution, buy a P.O.S. only to be used for the airport run then any dents etc picked up will be of no consequence.

Carawaystick

The spaces in Short term car park A at T1 are small because the carpark was built at a time cars were smaller. a polo these days is bigger than a mk1 golf, and a fiesta is bigger than a mk3 escort

august12

jjmcclure wrote:

Great attitude there. Its a lump of metal I work hard to pay for. Is it too much to expect people to show a little respect for other peoples property?

Would agree with you, some people just don't give a damn about other people, not to mention other people's property. I, like you, no matter where I park am very conscious when it comes to opening my car door. And totally agree with you, it might be a lump of metal to some people but someone else's pride and joy. If I want my car scratched, then at least let me do it myself, I don't need help from others.

amtc

Years ago liffey valley ran a campaign to say their spaces were wider to accommodate women!

Parked in Dublin airport twice recently. Wasn't my own car so just kept going to roof or outside.

faceman

Same the world over OP, race has nothing to do with it. It worse on the continent where parking spaces are tighter.

Kudos to the Americans who generally have wider spaces.

devnull

faceman wrote: »

Kudos to the Americans who generally have wider spaces.

No wonder though the size of their cars in general are wider!

howiya

trellheim wrote: »

Fair point. But at what point does a cab ride be the cheaper option ( include the hassle factor of getting the bus to said carparks plus chance of it getting damage ) .

I have not left the motor in the carparks to fly for many years its just plain not worth it unless you have more than a carful or going for a long time

Looking at €100 return for me in a taxi. If you're in a group then fine, split it but it's a lot if you're travelling alone.

In fairness there is a bus to the airport in time for the first flights but they finish their return service at 9pm.

I could get the Dublin Coach to the red cow and get a luas and walk the rest of the way but then we're back to the hassle factor you mention.

My point was simply to dispute a previous poster's assertion that public transport to the airport is adequate and people shouldn't need to drive to the airport.

magicbastarder

faceman wrote: »

Kudos to the Americans who generally have wider spaces.

but also larger cars.

ED E

Buy a Cactus, they're door proof.

markpb

ED E wrote: »

Buy a Cactus, they're door proof.

TIL! I never realised that those things were functional, I always thought some designer thought they looked pretty.

Sean9015

howiya wrote: »

Looking at €100 return for me in a taxi. If you're in a group then fine, split it but it's a lot if you're travelling alone.

In fairness there is a bus to the airport in time for the first flights but they finish their return service at 9pm.

I could get the Dublin Coach to the red cow and get a luas and walk the rest of the way but then we're back to the hassle factor you mention.

My point was simply to dispute a previous poster's assertion that public transport to the airport is adequate and people shouldn't need to drive to the airport.

Dublin Coach run at least hourly from Red Cow to the airport 24h/7d apart from Christmas and Stephens Days - their N7 service - with additional services daytime from Dundrum to the airport via Red Cow. Many passengers make the connection off other services from Limerick, Kerry and Waterford/Cork.

howiya

Sean9015 wrote: »

Dublin Coach run at least hourly from Red Cow to the airport 24h/7d apart from Christmas and Stephens Days - their N7 service - with additional services daytime from Dundrum to the airport via Red Cow. Many passengers make the connection off other services from Limerick, Kerry and Waterford/Cork.

I'm aware of that which is why I said i could get a Dublin Coach to the red cow after I referenced a different bus that only runs till 9pm.

737max

gumbo1

jjmcclure wrote: »

Hi

I park at Dublin Airport short term car parks 3 to 4 days a week. Every time I return to my car after being away for a few days there is a new ding or scratch from people opening their doors and not giving a feck about damaging other peoples property.

Why do Irish people care so little about damaging other peoples property.
I am Irish by the way and would never ever do this!:mad:

If you think that's bad you see and hear the horror stories from the staff car park. Every single day there's damage to several staff cars. From scratches on the bumpers to headlights been ripped out from other drivers hitting them. It's ridiculous how some people see no problem with hitting someone else's car and not leaving a note to say sorry or to contact them for a few quid off getting the damage repaired!

monument

ED E wrote: »

Buy a Cactus, they're door proof.

It looks a bit better all in the one colour but it still looks off.

faceman

devnull wrote: »

No wonder though the size of their cars in general are wider!

Not necessarily anymore. I hire cars in the US regularly and certainly their compacts and intermediates and many of their saloons and SUVs can fit with plenty of space

bk

faceman wrote: »

Not necessarily anymore. I hire cars in the US regularly and certainly their compacts and intermediates and many of their saloons and SUVs can fit with plenty of space

Americans themselves buy very large cars. I've seen some monstrosities of "trucks" parked there. Their typical sedans tend to be much bigger and wider then here.

However rental companies tend to rent out smaller cars as they are more popular with visitors from Europe and Asia and as a result such cars easily fit in the extra large US car spaces.

Also you have to remember that in general (outside of NY and SF) the US is a much larger country, with much smaller population density then Europe. Everything is much more spread out and spacious there. They just do everything bigger there.

sillysmiles

jjmcclure wrote: »

Hi

I park at Dublin Airport short term car parks 3 to 4 days a week. Every time I return to my car after being away for a few days there is a new ding or scratch from people opening their doors and not giving a feck about damaging other peoples property.

Why do Irish people care so little about damaging other peoples property.
I am Irish by the way and would never ever do this!:mad:

For me I don't understand why people get so worked up about it. It is only a car. When I bought my car (with my hard earned money) the first scratch put on it was annoying but after that, what does it matter. If you are trading in and worried about it, most of the minor scratches polish out. I usually am so happy to be getting back to my car after a work trip that I never notice if there in a new scratch on it.

737max

Go to any secondhand car valuation site and they adjust value based on condition (good, fair, poor).
enough scratches and your car suddenly goes from "good" to "poor" and you have effectively lost a few thousand euro.

plodder

faceman wrote: »

Kudos to the Americans who generally have wider spaces.

and guns ... :pac:

seamus

jjmcclure wrote: »

Great attitude there. Its a lump of metal I work hard to pay for. Is it too much to expect people to show a little respect for other peoples property?

it's not an attitude, it's a state of mind. If you're going to use something regularly, it's going to get worn and damaged. That's a fact of life. If you don't want that happening, don't take it out.

And yes it is too much to ask that nobody will ever knock off your car. People are human, they make mistakes. The vast majority of the time your car has been hit by mistake - a gust of wind has caught a door or a child has opened it carelessly, or someone has simply misjudged distance.

Other people care about your car as much as you care about theirs. That is, not at all. You just have to learn to live with that and set your expectations accordingly. If you want a pristine car, keep it covered and only take it out on special occasions.

737max

my car is 2.5 years old. There isn't a single ding or scratch on it although in daily use and park on public streets and in multi-storey car parks.
I don't live in Ireland.
It is an Irish thing not to show respect to other peoples' possessions, not universal.

jjmcclure

seamus wrote: »

it's not an attitude, it's a state of mind. If you're going to use something regularly, it's going to get worn and damaged. That's a fact of life. If you don't want that happening, don't take it out.

And yes it is too much to ask that nobody will ever knock off your car. People are human, they make mistakes. The vast majority of the time your car has been hit by mistake - a gust of wind has caught a door or a child has opened it carelessly, or someone has simply misjudged distance.

Other people care about your car as much as you care about theirs. That is, not at all. You just have to learn to live with that and set your expectations accordingly. If you want a pristine car, keep it covered and only take it out on special occasions.

IT is perfectly reasonable to expect other people to respect your property, be it a bicycle, car, home or whatever. Its attitudes like yours that make this country (and others) a frustrating place to live at times. Its part of the sense of entitlement culture, "I can do what I want with no consequence"

road_high

jjmcclure wrote: »

Hi

I park at Dublin Airport short term car parks 3 to 4 days a week. Every time I return to my car after being away for a few days there is a new ding or scratch from people opening their doors and not giving a feck about damaging other peoples property.

Why do Irish people care so little about damaging other peoples property.
I am Irish by the way and would never ever do this!:mad:

The spaces in the short term car park are ridiculously small (the multi storey places) especially the one nearest T1.

seamus

jjmcclure wrote: »

IT is perfectly reasonable to expect other people to respect your property

I didn't say it wasn't.

But it's unreasonable to leave or use your property in public for an extended period of time and expect that it will be pristine when you come back to it. Someone accidentally knocking off your car is not disrespect.

737max

No, can't agree there. if the damage was being done accidentally then I'd have damage on my car. it isn't happening so to me it seems you are dismissing disrespect for other peoples property as accidental damage.

brokenarms

seamus wrote: »

it's not an attitude, it's a state of mind. If you're going to use something regularly, it's going to get worn and damaged. That's a fact of life. If you don't want that happening, don't take it out.

And yes it is too much to ask that nobody will ever knock off your car. People are human, they make mistakes. The vast majority of the time your car has been hit by mistake - a gust of wind has caught a door or a child has opened it carelessly, or someone has simply misjudged distance.

Other people care about your car as much as you care about theirs. That is, not at all. You just have to learn to live with that and set your expectations accordingly. If you want a pristine car, keep it covered and only take it out on special occasions.

You either have no car or a banger.

I spent 30k on mine. And if I caught some prixk dinging it, I would have no problem going through their insurance to have a new door fitter and sprayed. So think about that the next time you or your kids do it.

Dinging a car drops its value for the owner by 100s if not 1000s. If you think its ok or acceptable to be a stupid human then expect some bloke to grab you by the throat if he catches you. People get angry when you wreck the things they own.