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World's 2017

  • 21-07-2017 9:55pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 501 ✭✭✭


    I know we are still in midst of TdF but world's this year may be interesting for Ireland.
    From another thread:
    Inquitus wrote: »
    rtmie wrote: »
    Someone mentioned elsewhere that this impacts size of team Ireland is allowed in world road race.
    Last year I think we had two. How many will we have this year?

    6 as it stands I believe.
    Also according to cycling news course in Bergen has a 3k climb at 10% to finish.
    So Dan is obviously a contender. How do we pick our 6?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,763 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    From what I can see the finishing circuit has a short climb at 6% each lap and finishes on the flat

    http://www.cyclingstage.com/world-championships-2017-bergen/route-road-race-wc-2017/

    3KZvTQ0.png

    salmon-hill.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 501 ✭✭✭rtmie


    This from cycling news says there is an additional spur for the finish of men's elite race only.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,508 ✭✭✭Esroh


    B. Nations ranked 11 to 20 in the UCI World Ranking by nations on 15 August 2017:
    each nation may enter 6 riders to start (60 riders to start)

    At the moment Ireland stands in 15th.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 501 ✭✭✭rtmie


    rtmie wrote: »
    This from cycling news says there is an additional spur for the finish of men's elite race only.
    Ah misread, this is for ITT.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,304 ✭✭✭koutoubia


    Has anyone ever held the rainbow jersey for 3 years?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 501 ✭✭✭rtmie


    koutoubia wrote: »
    Has anyone ever held the rainbow jersey for 3 years?
    Not according to Wikipedia.

    "Only six cyclists have successfully defended their title (three Belgians, two Italians and a Slovakian): Georges Ronsse (Belgium, 1928–29); Rik Van Steenbergen (Belgium, 1956–57); Rik Van Looy (Belgium, 1960–61); Gianni Bugno (Italy, 1991–92); Paolo Bettini (Italy, 2006–07) and Peter Sagan (Slovakia, 2015–16). Spaniard Alejandro Valverde has the most total medals by any one individual with six, although he has never won the rainbow jersey (2 silver 2003, 2005 and 4 bronze - 2006, 2012–14)."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,763 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    koutoubia wrote: »
    Has anyone ever held the rainbow jersey for 3 years?

    No but I guess Sagan has to start this race as the favourite?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,506 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    The UCI World rankings have been updated this morning and Ireland remain in 15th place (Nation Ranking). There is a nice gap of 633.75 points between ourselves and Switzerland in 16th place.

    423201.PNG

    So all going according to plan we'll have 6 riders in the Men's Elite RR.

    What's the team...?
    Dan & Nico obviously.
    The course doesn't look to suit Sam.
    Deignan would be a fantastic domestique, Matt Brammeier would be pretty good also.
    Ryan Mullen?
    Martyn Irvine? (he is currently recovering from a fractured hip)
    Conor Dunne?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,508 ✭✭✭Esroh


    The Tters have to be part of the 6 so that would make Ryan Mullen an automatic pick would it not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,506 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    Esroh wrote: »
    The Tters have to be part of the 6 so that would make Ryan Mullen an automatic pick would it not.

    Do they?

    The attached document is taken from the UCI website and it has a table that correlates the number of riders each National Federation may enter to start, and the number of riders to be registered for all individual events.
    Although I'm not 100% sure what that exactly means :o

    Last year Mullen and Bennett rode the RR, but Roche & Mullen rode the ITT.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,508 ✭✭✭Esroh


    Do they?

    The attached document is taken from the UCI website and it has a table that correlates the number of riders each National Federation may enter to start, and the number of riders to be registered for all individual events.
    Although I'm not 100% sure what that exactly means :o

    Last year Mullen and Bennett rode the RR, but Roche & Mullen rode the ITT.

    Yes I see that now. I just didn't read it correctly.
    Was it the Olympics where the Tters were part of the Road squad


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,792 ✭✭✭cython


    Esroh wrote: »
    Yes I see that now. I just didn't read it correctly.
    Was it the Olympics where the Tters were part of the Road squad

    TT participants had to start the road race in the Olympics, yes. Hence Dumoulin starting and climbing off after a few mins, just so he would be eligible to do the TT.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭gordongekko


    Bring Eddie Dunbar


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,153 ✭✭✭Glass Prison 1214


    Martin
    Roche
    Deignan
    Dunbar
    Mullen
    Brammeier

    Six man team sorted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,508 ✭✭✭Esroh


    Martin
    Roche
    Deignan
    Dunbar
    Mullen
    Brammeier

    Six man team sorted.
    Is Eddie allowed go senior when he is still u/23


  • Posts: 15,661 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Is Ireland sending a team for the European Championships next week? We can enter 6 for that one too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,153 ✭✭✭Glass Prison 1214


    Esroh wrote: »
    Is Eddie allowed go senior when he is still u/23

    Your right, he can't. We should leave him in the u23 where he could medal in the next couple of years. Swap him out for Sam Bennett/Conor Dunne.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,084 ✭✭✭✭neris


    Is Ireland sending a team for the European Championships next week? We can enter 6 for that one too.


    Sending riders just not sure what age categories


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 501 ✭✭✭rtmie


    Ireland down to 16th in UCI rankings.
    Needs Sam to win London Critics' tomorrow!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,763 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    neris wrote: »
    Sending riders just not sure what age categories

    Strong team going at all levels:

    Elite Men
    Sam Bennett (Tipperary, Bora–Hansgrohe,16/10/90)
    Matt Brammeier (Liverpool, Aqua Blue Sport, 7/6/85)
    Ryan Mullen (Wales, Cannondale-Drapac – 7/8/94)
    Sean McKenna (Dublin, An Post Chain Reaction, 8/3/94)
    Damien Shaw (Mullingar, An Post Chain Reaction,10/7/84)

    Elite Women
    Lydia Boylan (Dublin, TeamWNT,19/7/87)
    Eileen Burns (Ballymena CC, 17/2/89)

    U23 Men
    Eddie Dunbar (Banteer, Axeon-Hagens Berman, 1/5/96)
    Michael O’Loughlin (Tipperary, Team Wiggins, 14/2/97)
    Daire Feeley (Roscommon, Team iTap, 4/12/96)
    Darragh O’Mahony (Mallow, Kanturk, 30/12/97)
    Matthew Teggart (Banbridge, An Post Chain Reaction, 8/1/96)

    Junior Men
    John Buller (Banbridge CC, 4/2/99)
    Aaron Doherty (Westport, NRPT, 22/3/00)
    Patrick Doogan (Donegal, Powerhouse Sport, 14/2/00)
    Ben Walsh (Westport – NRPT – 23/8/99)
    Xeno Young (Down, Powerhouse Sport, 9/11/99)

    http://www.thebikecomesfirst.com/strong-irish-team-announced-for-european-road-cycling-championships/


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87 ✭✭Homer1798


    Would have liked to have seen more Irish Women going for the Road Race.


  • Posts: 15,661 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Times and riders for each event here http://www.cyclingireland.ie/cycling-news-item/team-announcement-european-road-cycling-championships-2017/5634

    Eurosport have coverage on the player at least. Not sure for TV , I think I heard them mention on commentary on the events last weekend that they will cover the mens RR on Sunday

    Ben literally started his TT as I'm typing this.

    EDIT: Ben Walsh finished with a very respectable time of 41:04, current leader is at about 40:30 and most after coming home +41:30


  • Posts: 15,661 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Anna Turvey and Eileen Burns finished 19 and 29 earlier this morning. Very wet for both ladies and men out there today.

    Michael O’Loughlin just finished with a top 5 time, Eddie is still out and was 2nd last to go.

    Ryan Mullen is due out in the Elite later this afternoon around 2:30 our time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,263 ✭✭✭robyntmorton




  • Posts: 15,661 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Eddie being shown now on his run for those with Eurosport Player.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,908 ✭✭✭CrowdedHouse


    Ryan Mullen leading at split 2

    Seven Worlds will Collide



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,908 ✭✭✭CrowdedHouse


    Bronze...2 sec to Bodnar 4 to Campanerts

    Seven Worlds will Collide



  • Posts: 15,661 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Just saw the podium , delighted for him and only 4 seconds off the top spot.

    The Irish jersey was quite a nice one I thought.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71 ✭✭EAD


    Eileen took a spill 16k in and had to have a bike change, awfully disappointing for her.


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  • Posts: 15,661 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Only 3 started for us in the men's from the looks of the coverage. Looks to be Sam riding towards the front.

    Sean McKenna is in a group of 25 or so trying to get back on to the main peloton, not sure why they got dropped but they are gaining down to 40 seconds from over 90 when live coverage started.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,387 ✭✭✭cunavalos


    Approaching the last 10km and looking like ending up in a sprint finish with a small group 10 seconds up the road from the peloton including Sam


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,387 ✭✭✭cunavalos


    Looks like Kristoff from Viviani, Bennett probably just inside the top 10

    Actually sam outside top 10, had to start from too far back and sat up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,460 ✭✭✭lennymc


    koutoubia wrote: »
    Has anyone ever held the rainbow jersey for 3 years?

    Peter Sagan, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020 etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,506 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    Allocations have been decided for the World Championships. Ireland will have 6 riders for the elite men's events :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,908 ✭✭✭CrowdedHouse


    I see Dan the man scored more than half of the total ranking points

    Seven Worlds will Collide



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭gordongekko


    Team is being announced tomorrow


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,506 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    Team is being announced tomorrow

    No announcement yet?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,256 ✭✭✭MPFGLB


    what about Dunne for the RR team ?

    Mullen & Roche doing the ITT


    Bennet & Martin also

    Plus Dunbar or Teggart ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,506 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    MPFGLB wrote: »
    what about Dunne for the RR team ?

    Mullen & Roche doing the ITT


    Bennet & Martin also

    Plus Dunbar or Teggart ?

    What would be purpose/benefit of bringing Bennett?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,256 ✭✭✭MPFGLB


    What would be purpose/benefit of bringing Bennett?

    Emmmm to race ...you've got me :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,834 ✭✭✭✭Pudsy33


    Dunbar is out for the season so it won't be him. Martin Roche Brammier Dunne Mullen O'Loughlin would make sense to me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,506 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    MPFGLB wrote: »
    Emmmm to race ...you've got me :D

    You cheeky f**ker MPFGLB :D
    What I mean is that the course wouldn't suit Bennett


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,256 ✭✭✭MPFGLB


    You cheeky f**ker MPFGLB :D
    What I mean is that the course wouldn't suit Bennett

    I know :D:D:D

    But would it really not suit him ? (Asking for a friend :))

    Kristoff , EBH, etc going ....Bennett surely could ride it better than many


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,554 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    MPFGLB wrote: »
    I know :D:D:D

    But would it really not suit him ? (Asking for a friend :))

    Kristoff , EBH, etc going ....Bennett surely could ride it better than many
    Lots of supposedly selective worlds courses haven't turned out to be that selective come race day, so I'd be tempted to bring Sam. He'd get over the climb as good as Kristoff wouldn't he?


  • Posts: 15,661 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Some countries opting not to bring sprinters, course profile below. Sorry for the big version :o

    bergen2017-2-rr-v4.jpg

    bergen2017-3-rrcircuit-v6.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,506 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    So they have to ascend Salmon Hill 12 times in total - 1.5 km @ 6.4%?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,506 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    The British RR team is kinda.... crap!

    Owain Doull, Pete Kennaugh, Adam Blythe, Mark Christian, Jon Dibben, Tao Geoghegan Hart, Ian Stannard, Ben Swift and Scott Thwaites


  • Posts: 15,661 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Is Cummings still out injured? He had a great run in the Nationals in June with the RR and TT wins.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,256 ✭✭✭MPFGLB


    The British RR team is kinda.... crap!

    Owain Doull, Pete Kennaugh, Adam Blythe, Mark Christian, Jon Dibben, Tao Geoghegan Hart, Ian Stannard, Ben Swift and Scott Thwaites

    why no Thomas ?

    Ben Swift can do best of that lot imo ....good on the long hard stuff
    Not sure about Officer Dibble and Owen Doll :D

    But Swift & Blythe selection make a case for Bennett surely


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,084 ✭✭✭✭neris


    The British RR team is kinda.... crap!

    Owain Doull, Pete Kennaugh, Adam Blythe, Mark Christian, Jon Dibben, Tao Geoghegan Hart, Ian Stannard, Ben Swift and Scott Thwaites

    No Yates brother


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