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I have found the job(s) that is(are) lower than me.

  • 19-07-2017 5:35pm
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    Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭


    I don't judge the people doing them of course of course.

    I just can't imagine what it's like to follow illogical rules to a tee. It must destroy the soul to do it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    I don't judge the people doing them of course of course.

    I just can't imagine what it's like to follow illogical rules to a tee. It must destroy the soul to do it.

    You don't judge, but yet you talk about people doing a lower job to your own.

    Hmmm.

    Although am curious to what your job is, and what these jobs are you talk about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,429 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    people doing a lower job to your own
    I usually fly at 40,000 feet, so most other people do jobs lower than mine.


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I wrote this like 30 minutes ago and it makes no sense. I'm proud of it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39,022 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


    This post has been deleted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭snowflaker


    Knife goes in, guts comes out...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    smurfjed wrote: »
    I usually fly at 40,000 feet, so most other people do jobs lower than mine.

    Guys in the space station are laughing at you.


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I was bonkers drunk writing this last night.. The joys of drinking far less frequently along with a cause to celebrate, and then a night that turned sour.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 419 ✭✭A Battered Mars Bar


    Guys in the space station are laughing at you.

    No actually. In space there is no up or down.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 419 ✭✭A Battered Mars Bar


    I was bonkers drunk writing this last night.. The joys of drinking far less frequently along with a cause to celebrate, and then a night that turned sour.

    U ok hun? Xx


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Mint Sauce wrote: »
    You don't judge, but yet you talk about people doing a lower job to your own.

    Hmmm.

    Although am curious to what your job is, and what these jobs are you talk about.

    Basically saying "below me" was bad and very drunk phrasing. I just meant that I don't want a job where I can't use sense and logic. The only reason you want to know my job is for ammunition. But I'm a teacher so I can use my own judgement and methods in the classroom and I'm a part-time web developer so I can be creative in that area.


    I'm only posting now to own how stupid my post was. Plus I'm hungover. But I definitely think it's ok to believe you're better than some work.

    My first job at 15 was working at a till. Then I worked in bars and cleaned beds and bathrooms.
    Now, I can write complex code and design a functional website. And I'm a good teacher, even if I don't like it anymore. When I was a hedge fund accountant, I bridged the IT gap and automated processes on the Bloomberg terminals for hundreds of people in like four countries and saved the bank hundreds of thousands of euros a month in man-hours while reducing errors to zero.

    I definitely don't judge people who work at a till in Dunnes. But I can provide way more value in other work and to say I'm not better than working at a till would negate the 14 years of education, work and travel since that first job. I don't really see why people shouldn't have confidence in their abilities.


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  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    U ok hun? Xx

    No.


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Permabear wrote: »
    This post had been deleted.
    On a higher level?

    Meaning what, specifically? I don't think I'm being pedantic here -- it's either clumsy wording, or utterly archaic.


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    On a higher level?

    Meaning what, exactly?

    That they save lives by doing what 99.9999999% can't?

    It sounds like you think brain surgeons provide the same value as stacking shelves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,394 ✭✭✭Pac1Man


    On a higher level?

    Meaning what, specifically? I don't think I'm being pedantic here -- it's either clumsy wording, or utterly archaic.

    How is this even a question?!


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Pac1Man wrote: »
    How is this even a question?!

    It's not. It's where you treat everyone so equally that you ignore everything except that they're a person.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,731 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Basically saying "below me" was bad and very drunk phrasing. I just meant that I don't want a job where I can't use sense and logic. The only reason you want to know my job is for ammunition. But I'm a teacher so I can use my own judgement and methods in the classroom and I'm a part-time web developer so I can be creative in that area.


    I'm only posting now to own how stupid my post was. Plus I'm hungover. But I definitely think it's ok to believe you're better than some work.

    My first job at 15 was working at a till. Then I worked in bars and cleaned beds and bathrooms.
    Now, I can write complex code and design a functional website. And I'm a good teacher, even if I don't like it anymore. When I was a hedge fund accountant, I bridged the IT gap and automated processes on the Bloomberg terminals for hundreds of people in like four countries and saved the bank hundreds of thousands of euros a month in man-hours while reducing errors to zero.

    I definitely don't judge people who work at a till in Dunnes. But I can provide way more value in other work and to say I'm not better than working at a till would negate the 14 years of education, work and travel since that first job. I don't really see why people shouldn't have confidence in their abilities.

    Your first post makes more sense.


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    That they save lives by doing what 99.9999999% can't?
    According to your calculations there are 7 human beings on the planet capable of being neurosurgeons.

    That's obviously ridiculous, regardless of your statistical exaggeration. For every Mozart, there was a Salieri to take his place. For every Dr. X, there is Dr. Y who is 99.9999999% as good as she is.

    But more fundamentally than that, I am asking about neurosurgeons as individuals, and what (if anything) makes a magnificent surgeon more irreplaceable than a magnificent operating-theatre cleaner, or neurosurgical nurse, for example.


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    According to your calculations there are 7 human beings on the planet capable of being neurosurgeons.

    That's obviously ridiculous, regardless of your statistical exaggeration. For every Mozart, there was a Salieri to take his place. For every Dr. X, there is Dr. Y who is 99.9999999% as good as she is.

    But more fundamentally than that, I am asking about neurosurgeons as individuals, and what (if anything) makes a magnificent surgeon more irreplaceable than a magnificent operating-theatre cleaner, or neurosurgical nurse, for example.


    You really are pedantic.

    My mother has been a theatre nurse for 40 years and has the utmost respect for the surgeons. She talks about them like they're gods, and she's right. She isn't daft enough to think she's at the same level as even a newly qualified doctor.

    Your line of thinking is astounding in that you can't see the obvious answers because you're blinded by whatever beliefs you have.

    "what (if anything) makes a magnificent surgeon more irreplaceable than a magnificent operating-theatre cleaner, or neurosurgical nurse, for example."

    Take a step back and just look at how ridiculous a statement it is. Why are you trying to equate nurses and surgeons? You're leaving reality behind.



    Two doctors after 32-hour surgery. What a travesty the likely dozens of nurses didn't get their photos taken. They obviously deserve it just as much.

    luxhqoj95q5z.png


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,767 ✭✭✭Ben Gadot


    That they save lives by doing what 99.9999999% can't?

    It sounds like you think brain surgeons provide the same value as stacking shelves.

    I have all the respect in the world for indeed such a rare ability to have.

    Hopefully medicine and treatment will catch one day so they won't have to do 32 hour shifts in surgery.....or so they can spend less time with the nuisances of the job such as having to tell families that nothing can be done for someone.


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ben Gadot wrote: »
    I have all the respect in the world for indeed such a rare ability to have.

    Hopefully medicine and treatment will catch one day so they won't have to do 32 hour shifts in surgery.....or so they can spend less time with the nuisances of the job such as having to tell families that nothing can be done for someone.

    I hope so, too. My experience of doctors and hospitals in the last year has given me a whole new respect for it. I always respected it but they really are the superheros in a world without superpowers

    And I have enormous respect for nurses, even if I think doctors are a level above. My mother has been through hell as a theatre nurse and my girlfriend got a crucial diagnosis/test from a 60plus-year-old nurse when her condition usually goes undiagnosed for years and years.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,070 ✭✭✭LadyMacBeth_


    In my experience a nurse with a lot of practical experience is far more useful to me than a junior doctor running around like a terrified headless chicken.


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Your first post makes more sense.

    Biggest burn in a decade on boards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,167 ✭✭✭Notorious


    In my experience a nurse with a lot of practical experience is far more useful to me than a junior doctor running around like a terrified headless chicken.

    That's not a good comparison.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,886 ✭✭✭beans


    I was bonkers drunk writing this last night.. The joys of drinking far less frequently along with a cause to celebrate, and then a night that turned sour.

    "There is no such joy in the tavern as upon the road thereto..."


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    beans wrote: »
    "There is no such joy in the tavern as upon the road thereto..."

    Added to my list.. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/394535.Blood_Meridian_or_the_Evening_Redness_in_the_West


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39,022 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


    This post has been deleted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,721 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    I was bonkers drunk writing this last night.. The joys of drinking far less frequently along with a cause to celebrate, and then a night that turned sour.

    I'd say your a right knob when drunk based on what you took the timento post. Ya know the way some lads just churn out rubbish thinking they have just mastered the theological solutions to the galaxy - but mostly they're just knobs.


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    _Brian wrote: »
    I'd say your a right knob when drunk based on what you took the timento post. Ya know the way some lads just churn out rubbish thinking they have just mastered the theological solutions to the galaxy - but mostly they're just knobs.
    And I used to be a total fúcking cùnt when I judged people on a few posts. But I stopped doing that because people didn't like it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    Basically saying "below me" was bad and very drunk phrasing. I just meant that I don't want a job where I can't use sense and logic. The only reason you want to know my job is for ammunition. But I'm a teacher so I can use my own judgement and methods in the classroom and I'm a part-time web developer so I can be creative in that area.


    I'm only posting now to own how stupid my post was. Plus I'm hungover. But I definitely think it's ok to believe you're better than some work.

    My first job at 15 was working at a till. Then I worked in bars and cleaned beds and bathrooms.
    Now, I can write complex code and design a functional website. And I'm a good teacher, even if I don't like it anymore. When I was a hedge fund accountant, I bridged the IT gap and automated processes on the Bloomberg terminals for hundreds of people in like four countries and saved the bank hundreds of thousands of euros a month in man-hours while reducing errors to zero.

    I definitely don't judge people who work at a till in Dunnes. But I can provide way more value in other work and to say I'm not better than working at a till would negate the 14 years of education, work and travel since that first job. I don't really see why people shouldn't have confidence in their abilities.

    Well I work in Health Care, and whilst I have my training and experience, I still have to work to policy, and protocol that has been set down. It doesn't take away though from my ability or confidence to do my job, and be happy or satisfied with my contribution.
    You really are pedantic.

    My mother has been a theatre nurse for 40 years and has the utmost respect for the surgeons. She talks about them like they're gods, and she's right. She isn't daft enough to think she's at the same level as even a newly qualified doctor.

    Your line of thinking is astounding in that you can't see the obvious answers because you're blinded by whatever beliefs you have.

    "what (if anything) makes a magnificent surgeon more irreplaceable than a magnificent operating-theatre cleaner, or neurosurgical nurse, for example."

    Take a step back and just look at how ridiculous a statement it is. Why are you trying to equate nurses and surgeons? You're leaving reality behind.



    Two doctors after 32-hour surgery. What a travesty the likely dozens of nurses didn't get their photos taken. They obviously deserve it just as much.

    luxhqoj95q5z.png

    There are also plenty of nurses that I would rate higher than some doctors, and not just newly qualified ones, and am sure from that from your mothers 40 years experience she would be one of them. Whilst there are plenty of experienced doctors that they may be in awe of, there are also plenty of shoddy ones too.


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