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Are there any jobs that you consider 'below' you?

  • 17-07-2017 8:55pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 558 ✭✭✭


    I'm the kind of person who rolls their sleeves up and gets down to work with the minimum of fuss and drama. A job is a job to me, whether it's white collar work, or blue collar. I've found myself at one time or another pulling in 80k plus a year, and following the recession I was cleaning toilets for a few years to make ends meet. Now, this wasn't exactly a dream career for me, but I did what had to be done in order to make money.

    At one point, the company were looking to hire a few extra people. I mentioned it to a few of my unemployed friends, and I was quite surprised at the response I got from them. The vast majority scoffed at my offer of work, and some even pointed out that they considered it an insult. Some of them still haven't found work, whereas I have moved on to bigger and better things. After all, you need to have a job in order to get a job.

    Are there are jobs that you turned down because you considered them beneath you? I'm not looking to trap anyone here, I'd just like your honest opinion and perspective.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,238 ✭✭✭Patser


    Submarine driver.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,551 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    Road sweeping


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,807 ✭✭✭Jurgen Klopp


    Professional rimmer


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 732 ✭✭✭DontThankMe


    Boards.ie Moderator


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    Chugging and Cold Call Sales. Although that's more of a moral thing.

    Did cold call sales on phones for about a week and left. Some serious sociopaths involved in the industry.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    Estate Agent
    Recruitment Consultant
    Human Resources
    Professional Activist/Protester.

    I'd rather give myself an enema than be any of those.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 2,159 Mod ✭✭✭✭Oink


    Boards.ie Moderator

    That's kind of funny but I hope you don't mind if I don't thank you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 732 ✭✭✭DontThankMe


    Oink wrote: »
    That's kind of funny but I hope you don't mind if I don't thank you.

    I appreciate your kind words and I appreciate you not thanking me even more.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    t this stage in my life? Any and every job.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 2,159 Mod ✭✭✭✭Oink


    But to answer OP's question - if your unemployed friend is offended when you offer him a job, he needs a slap, and you need a new friend.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,431 ✭✭✭MilesMorales1


    Nope. I'll clean the dirtiest toilets, pick fruit, work in the worst take away, sweep the streets, whatever a 'low' job is considered to be. A pay packets a pay packet, how its earnt is just a means to an end.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Wouldn't consider many beneath me, but there's plenty I wouldn't have any interest in.

    Anything in an office, anything 9-5, anything with a boss, anything with too many cnuts working for me that have no interest in work, anything with a union, anything that you can't jack up in five minutes flat. Plenty of other things too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,968 ✭✭✭blindside88


    Chugging or any of those "commission only" door to door sales jobs. If what you want me to sell is worth buying them surely you can afford to pay me a basic wage


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 968 ✭✭✭railer201


    Mining


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,431 ✭✭✭MilesMorales1


    Chugging or any of those "commission only" door to door sales jobs. If what you want me to sell is worth buying them surely you can afford to pay me a basic wage

    Oh yeah I forgot those. Not that I wouldn't do the job if it was paid by the hour or day even, just not on a commission basis.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭atilladehun


    Chugging and Cold Call Sales. Although that's more of a moral thing.

    Did cold call sales on phones for about a week and left. Some serious sociopaths involved in the industry.

    I think giving them a go and leaving is fair enough. I did cold calling and door to door. Hated both and left. Got some agency work to tide me over, loved it.

    HR (Not the get me a job kind, the ones who work in companies). I just don't get how people do this. You essentially want to be the mouth piece for those who have all the money and powerful. You want to tell the weaker and poorer bad news and all the time you yourself get treated like crap by both groups. I just can't do that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,817 ✭✭✭✭Charlie19


    I hate having to use those portaloos at outdoor events, I don't think that I'd be able to clean them for a living.

    **** job;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    Any job where you're not allowed to address your boss by their first name.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    RayM wrote: »
    Any job where you're not allowed to address your boss by their first name.

    Another for my list, any job where you're not allowed to call your boss a useless wastard.


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    After all, you need to have a job in order to get a job.
    Then how does anybody work?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 130 ✭✭Ninjavampire


    I couldn't go back to sales, i just can't push crap on people that don't need it. Then in the morning briefing you are chastised for having poor numbers because you told an old woman she actually could fix her 1 year old computer rather than having to buy a new one...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,420 ✭✭✭✭sligojoek


    Grave digging.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39,022 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


    This post has been deleted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,298 ✭✭✭DareGod


    If you consider *any* job to be below you then your ego is out of control.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,174 ✭✭✭RhubarbCrumble


    RayM wrote: »
    Any job where you're not allowed to address your boss by their first name.

    I had one of those a few years ago. A fairly informal environment where everyone went by first name (mangers and staff) except for one manager who demanded to be addressed as Mr X.
    Purely because we knew how much it pissed him off a few of us used to call him by his first name, which was Dick. Never had a man been more aptly named.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,683 ✭✭✭Subcomandante Marcos


    Anything in the lower paye tax band tbh...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭snowflaker


    Ambulance Chasing Solicitor


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,585 ✭✭✭ligerdub


    Fundamentally there's no job that's beneath me, or for anyone else for that matter. In reality you do what you can to survive.

    Having said that there are caveats to that.

    There is an underlying tone to the original post that "you should sweep the streets if you have to" in a sense of the noble aspect of that. Now while that's true, it assumes you'd get the job over someone else who may have zero qualifications and zero chance of getting a higher status role than that. What happens to that guy if that happens?

    I've had a couple of periods of unemployment in my life, each time I've come through them with a much, much higher level of value to employers than when I became out of work. I used the time to work my arse off to upskill. It wasn't all that expensive as I did it mainly from books I read and worked at myself. I obviously looked for compatible jobs (any I was suited to at all, much the same level as where I was previously) and any that would have come up I would have applied for.

    There's a potentially large cost of taking a step back from the previous role you were in, and there's really no need to do this if you can at all help it and is reasonably likely you can recover your position without all that much problem. There's a long term thing to consider here, and your career is important. There's only a certain amount of time in which you get the chance to frame that to your own preferences. Beyond that you get pigeon holed based on what you HAVE done not what you can do.

    If you're worked for a few years then you qualify for benefit outright. It may well be taking from the State coffers but you can bet that you more than paid your way while you were working. If worst comes to worst then by all means go for the job which you can attain but doesn't relate to your experience, qualifications or indeed interest, but until that point I'd argue that it does more harm than good. It means you're taking a job you've absolutely zero interest in. Most importantly, you're using up your most valuable resource, your time, to do work where you'll not develop skills related to your next job, one you'll snatch up at the drop of a hat.

    I hated the Slavebridge concept but I'd put working in one of those schemes ahead of working in a job which completely doesn't suit you. I reiterate that if it's a choice between working and sitting on the scratcher doing nothing, and you have nothing to fall back on capital wise, then any job is better than no job, but a bit of realism needs to be considered here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 869 ✭✭✭mikeybrennan


    I turn my nose up at rodding sewers


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,572 ✭✭✭DominoDub


    Samwell Tarly's new job cleaning **** pans :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,351 ✭✭✭Littlehorny


    Cleaning of any kind, be it sewerage or sweeping the roads etc is honest work and no one should consider a low skilled labour job as below them.
    Two jobs that spring to mind and i'm sure there is other examples of this type of work are clampers and baliffs (carrying out evictions).
    Now i know people can't park just anywhere and i am a big believer in paying your way and not screwing people out of money but I just couldn't do a job that involves bringing misery to someone else.
    I especially hate those type of cnuts who take great joy in doing those types of jobs.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,896 ✭✭✭sabat


    Those scammy 'sales' jobs that send hapless young people around door to door working for commission- I'd honestly prefer to live on welfare than do that. There's nothing wrong with manual or sanitation work-if the general conditions are ok it's rewarding in its own way.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,988 ✭✭✭jacksie66


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,583 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Chugging and Cold Call Sales. Although that's more of a moral thing.

    Did cold call sales on phones for about a week and left. Some serious sociopaths involved in the industry.
    I wanted to be a chugger but my parents were married.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 887 ✭✭✭Jobs OXO


    Oink wrote: »
    But to answer OP's question - if your unemployed friend is offended when you offer him a job, he needs a slap, and you need a new friend.

    Well if the job is cleaning shoite out of a jacks for €8 and hour you'd be a fool to take it. Stay on the dole.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭donegaLroad


    singing country and western music to backing tracks with a drum machine in all the pokey bars around the midlands.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 249 ✭✭RoisinClare6


    I worked in Dealz for a year, didn't hate the work itself it was the company! Wouldn't consider anything beneath me. A euro is a euro whether you've earned it in an office or scrubbing a toilet. If it wasn't for us people doing 'lower' classed jobs the world wouldn't go round!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭con___manx1


    I wouldn't consider any job beneath me and I would never look down on anyone for doing any type of job.
    I really hate kunts that do tho.


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    i don't necessarily consider any job beneath me personally, I consider certain conditions as being below the minimum standard of human dignity.

    If it wasn't for us people doing 'lower' classed jobs the world wouldn't go round!
    Yes it would. The great trope of modern life is that the poor are doing the world some kind of altruistic favour for the benefit of the poorly-waged.

    People who work for low wages in the long term are, in general, being used against the benefit they represent to their employers. If it were otherwise, their employers would be on the side of the road.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,338 ✭✭✭MayoSalmon


    Yes there are jobs beneath me..you don't say that in a bad way though. I am merely talking about low skilled work that I once did myself however I have better skills and experience now and have moved on.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    Oink wrote: »
    But to answer OP's question - if your unemployed friend is offended when you offer him a job, he needs a slap, and you need a new friend.

    Seems an odd way to choose friends or to defriend someone who you could have known all your life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,785 ✭✭✭Aglomerado


    None. I found myself envying a binman this morning, swinging merrily off the back of a truck in his shorts while I went to my stuffy office job...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,018 ✭✭✭knipex


    Jobs OXO wrote: »
    Well if the job is cleaning shoite out of a jacks for €8 and hour you'd be a fool to take it. Stay on the dole.

    Minimum wage is €9.25 and if it makes more sense to stay on the dole than work then something is drastically wrong with our social welfare policy..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,568 ✭✭✭BillyBobBS


    Anything in an office or finance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 530 ✭✭✭_Roz_


    knipex wrote: »
    Minimum wage is €9.25 and if it makes more sense to stay on the dole than work then something is drastically wrong with our social welfare policy..

    Depends on the structure of your work. If you're scrubbing toilets, are you doing it for 35 hours a week? If you're only doing it 20 hours a week, are you doing those 20 hours over more than 3 days? If so, you'll make less than on the dole and not be entitled to anything from Social Welfare.

    I don't consider any job beneath me, but there are plenty I wouldn't want to do. I used to work as a cashier and it was the most soul-destroying, depressing work I've ever done. I'm an introvert, I prefer not to be interacting with people every minute of every day. I'm also bad at math and frequently counted my till wrong, so I'd be up money one day and down the next. It was awful. So, respect to anyone who can cope with those jobs, but yeah I'd sooner stay on the dole for less money.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    A journalist, especially in the Sunday Independent. Actually, with the exception of a very, very, very small number of public interest investigations on RTÉ the entire profession. Collectively they are sycophantic anti-republican, anti-socialist, rightwing conservative cúnts serving the interests of rich oligarchs. Collectively in Independent Newspapers and The Anglo-Irish Times these lackeys try to promote respect for the cowardly lickspittles who fought for the British Empire, and demonise those who fought for the freedom of this small country. Entire careers dedicated to pushing that particular agenda. Entire careers. I look forward to the destruction of that whole industry and I rejoice at the recent bankruptcy of Anthony O'Reilly and the effective sacking of Anne Harris as editor of the Sunday Independent.

    Journalism: a pseudo-profession for complete bastards.

    And yes, I feel much better now - thanks for asking!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,161 ✭✭✭frag420


    I am a pilot...all other jobs are beneath me!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,585 ✭✭✭ligerdub


    Aglomerado wrote: »
    None. I found myself envying a binman this morning, swinging merrily off the back of a truck in his shorts while I went to my stuffy office job...

    That's rubbish in fairness.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    A pay packets a pay packet, how its earned is just a means to an end.

    That's a very bad way to look at it and a very bad way to live your life.
    DareGod wrote: »
    If you consider *any* job to be below you then your ego is out of control.

    Only if you have never worked a day in your life or you're a communist and the only thing anybody should care about is the state. Your concept is very naive.

    As people gain more experience in their field, naturally, certain jobs become undesirable. If you are made redundant and a job as a cleaner comes up while you are on the dole, the high horse brigade with frown upon your decision to decline said job, but you shouldn't have to take anything that comes up, that's just idiotic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 968 ✭✭✭railer201


    frag420 wrote: »
    I am a pilot...all other jobs are beneath me!!

    Except for astronauts !


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