Could you afford to move to a Minimum Wage Job in Ireland

imme

Could you afford to move to Ireland for a minimum wage job?

There are frequent reports of late about rising property prices, rising rental prices.

Could you afford to move to Ireland and get by just doing a minimum wage job.

It would sure be difficult, I imagine.

The_Valeyard

I actually liked the documentary / comedy show Des Bishop thing about it.


No I could not. It be very difficult if not near impossible.

DontThankMe

Yes I could.

Timberrrrrrrr

It would depend on where you were moving to in ireland

Pac1Man

Yes'm

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The Backwards Man

I'm self employed so I'd probably lose the run of myself with all that disposable cash.

imme

imme wrote: »

Could you afford to move to Ireland for a minimum wage job?

There are frequent reports of late about rising property prices, rising rental prices.

Could you afford to move to Ireland and get by just doing a minimum wage job.

It would sure be difficult, I imagine.

Whereabouts? Let's look at Drogheda, near Dublin. 40 hours at minimum wage is about 348 a week after tax. Can get a double room in the middle of Drogheda for under 100 a week. Let's call it 100. 20 a week for electricity/internet/bins. Food toiletries etc. let's be generous and say 40 a week. Altogether leaves about 190 per week. Quite doable I'd have said.

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Permabear

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Small price to pay for living in the greatest and freest country in the history of the world.

Jurgen Klopp

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Whereabouts? Let's look at Drogheda, near Dublin. 40 hours at minimum wage is about 348 a week after tax. Can get a double room in the middle of Drogheda for under 100 a week. Let's call it 100. 20 a week for electricity/internet/bins. Food toiletries etc. let's be generous and say 40 a week. Altogether leaves about 190 per week. Quite doable I'd have said.

Wow wouldn't have thought that. What areas is it that have the mental rents so? Genuine question, as Dublin is to me what New York is to Homer Simpson

Senna

You can get a double room in a house share in Letterkenny, Donegal for €50 a week. You can have a very comfortable life especially if you live in the town and don't need a car.

Permabear

Absolutely not. I don't think I could live on the so-called 'living wage'.

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Do you have any breakdown of that? I'm not quite sure we are comparing like with like.

bmwguy

The Backwards Man wrote: »

I'm self employed so I'd probably lose the run of myself with all that disposable cash.

Me too. Would love a guaranteed 350 every week!

All joking aside, I do earn more than that and I couldn't live on minimum wage.

My expenses at the

Mortgage 220 p/w
Gas and electricity 30 p/w
Motoring incl fuel, tax, insurance, upkeep 150 p/w although this is high because I use it all day for my job. My car helps me make money
Food 50 p/w
Clothing probably averages at 20 p/w

They are all the basics for survival and it's 470 p/w which is well above minimum wage. Its in around the living wage figure i have seen often mentioned.

So if I was on minimum wage I would have to live somewhere cheaper for a start and cut back on motoring expenses to make ends meet. Minimum wage is not easy and I applaud anyone on it for surviving and living frugally but think they should be trying to upskill themselves if possible.

In addition to these basics I pay into a pension, spend money socialising, going for weekends away, holidays and events plus save money. No kids yet. Girlfriend dumped me for starting up my own business and never being around and not wanting to ever move back to England with her so no kids in near future anyway!

I am self employed as I said and I have 3 seperate income streams that I worked bloody hard to build up and develop to where they are today. I was on minimum wage when younger alright but didn't have any of the expenses I have now and I was fine.

So the answer is it depends on your outgoings.
If I lived in a cheap part of Ireland and didn't need a car I think I could manage it as I don't really have an overly lavish lifestyle

Wheeliebin30

Plenty of people survive on minimum wage already in Ireland.

So of course it possible.

Yourself isit

bmwguy wrote: »

Me too. Would love a guaranteed 350 every week!

All joking aside, I do earn more than that and I couldn't live on minimum wage.

My expenses at the

Mortgage 220 p/w
Gas and electricity 30 p/w
Motoring incl fuel, tax, insurance, upkeep 150 p/w although this is high because I use it all day for my job. My car helps me make money
Food 50 p/w
Clothing probably averages at 20 p/w

They are all the basics for survival and it's 470 p/w which is well above minimum wage. Its in around the living wage figure i have seen often mentioned.

So if I was on minimum wage I would have to live somewhere cheaper for a start and cut back on motoring expenses to make ends meet. Minimum wage is not easy and I applaud anyone on it for surviving and living frugally but think they should be trying to upskill themselves if possible.

In addition to these basics I pay into a pension, spend money socialising, going for weekends away, holidays and events plus save money. No kids yet. Girlfriend dumped me for starting up my own business and never being around and not wanting to ever move back to England with her so no kids in near future anyway!

I am self employed as I said and I have 3 seperate income streams that I worked bloody hard to build up and develop to where they are today. I was on minimum wage when younger alright but didn't have any of the expenses I have now and I was fine.

So the answer is it depends on your outgoings.
If I lived in a cheap part of Ireland and didn't need a car I think I could manage it as I don't really have an overly lavish lifestyle

You could reduce travel costs by selling the BMW.


Ba ding tosh

KwackerJack

Yes.....if I was single with no kids. No social life, no holidays, no luxuries and not living in dublin

You would simply exist....that's it

To me work is a means to have a good comfortable, stress free (money wise) life with all the luxuries like holidays in good places, lots of family day's out, good food in decent restaurants, nice car, nice house etc

If I can't have those by working then why work, why not go on the social and just live day to day.

I wasn't great in school but I worked and studied hard for what I have and thankfully I'm quite comfortable now.........nobody should settle for the minimum wage, work hard and it will pay off

noodler

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Plenty of people survive on minimum wage already in Ireland.

So of course it possible.

Most who earn it aren't actually reliant on it as their sole income.

Alot of part timers with a spousal income and alot of students.

CSO did a special module on it earlier in the year.

Its a tough ask in Dublin. Outside Dublin it is certainly doable.

bmwguy

Yourself isit wrote: »

You could reduce travel costs by selling the BMW.


Ba ding tosh

And buying what exactly? The BMW is 10 years old and I don't have a loan or finance on it. Changing it would save minimal amounts to be honest.

SCOOP 64

KwackerJack wrote: »

Yes.....if I was single with no kids. No social life, no holidays, no luxuries and not living in dublin

You would simply exist....that's it

To me work is a means to have a good comfortable, stress free (money wise) life with all the luxuries like holidays in good places, lots of family day's out, good food in decent restaurants, nice car, nice house etc

If I can't have those by working then why work, why not go on the social and just live day to day.

I wasn't great in school but I worked and studied hard for what I have and thankfully I'm quite comfortable now.........nobody should settle for the minimum wage, work hard and it will pay off

My mum and dad worked hard all there lives and still couldn't afford the above, hard work alone don't make you well off.

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the_pen_turner

yes definetly.
a pay increase would be nice.
I'm self employed . my weeks turn over looks good for 40 hours until you take off all the overheads and add in all the xtra hours that cant be billed out to the customer(loading van, going to accountant, lodging money etc) . if you worked it out properly I'm not earning minimum wage or even close to it

Peregrine

I know plenty of people who moved to Dublin to work on minimum wage. It's not easy but they still see it as an improvement.

_Roz_

I've often lived (while renting) on minimum wage or even the dole. Dole wasn't comfortable, but managable, so the extra few hundred quid of minimum wage for a full working week - I wasn't saving anything, but I was living just fine.

LollipopJimmy

While rents are skyrocketing in Dublin this is partially down to the fact that city centre houses and apartments are overcrowded.
I was involved in the recruitment of 50 people onto an 'entry level' job, not minimum and this attracted a lot of applicants who had just arrived in Ireland, some of the things I heard about living arrangements made my toenails curl.

A one bed in the city with 8 people living in it was one

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

You cut your cloth to measure. 11 years ago, I worked a minimum wage job. I was 21 at the time and I had an absolute ball. I still managed at least 3 nights out a week. God knows I did without a lot of things that I wouldn't give up now though (a car, Sky TV, proper broadband, trips away, nicer clothes).

I could afford it, but my lifestyle would take a dramatic drop.

Lollipops23

I've only just attained the wages/lifestyle that I'm happy with in the last year tbh. It was a long, hard road and I sucked it up in sh*tty jobs for a long time (inc a stint working in a bookies on close to min wage for 9 months when I graduated and there were no prospects).

I changed jobs 6 months ago; I was working in a Big 4 company and was DEEPLY unhappy. I made up my mind to leave and was willing to take a 2-3k salary hit to make that happen. In the end I was actually lucky enough to get a job that paid 2k more than my salary at the time. I now earn a decent/respectable wage-certainly not well off but doing ok.

If there is a another major recession down the line, obviously all bets are off. But right now I couldn't sustain my hard-won lifestyle (and it's certainly nothing insane, I don't buy designer clothes or drive a BMW) on min wage.

mick_ser

It all depends on where you live....Dublin would be very difficult I imagine but in most other places with a lower cost of living it's possible

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Plenty of people survive on minimum wage already in Ireland.

So of course it possible.

"What would you like to be when you grow up"

"I would like to survive..."

Very important word there, survive. Some life ambition... :rolleyes:

Cina

Minimum wage is about €350 per week(ish) after tax.

I'd say that's more than enough to live comfortably in a smaller, more remote town in Ireland (if you're single without kids, can't really speak for families), but not really enough to live in Dublin without struggling a bit.

Like just about every other developed country, really.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

bmwguy wrote: »

And buying what exactly? The BMW is 10 years old and I don't have a loan or finance on it. Changing it would save minimal amounts to be honest.

Yea, but it's a BMW. Regardless of logic or how much it's costing, the fact that you own a BMW just isn't on. You need to sell it for what it's worth and purchase a smaller car, like a ford fiesta for about 6K (5 years old), your comfort is not important. You just need to convince your neighbors that you are not very well off, and you can't do that driving a 10 year old BMW...

Dravokivich

So we're talking single people with no dependents then?

Peregrine

Cina wrote: »

Minimum wage is about €350 per week(ish) after tax.

You'd have to be getting paid for over 41 hours (€380 gross) a week to get that after tax. If you're in work for 40 hours a week with four hours of unpaid breaks then it'll be closer to €330 a week gross pay.

However, that would exclude you from paying PRSI and you'd only pay a tiny amount of income tax and USC.

messy tessy

Isabella Ashy Sprout wrote: »

Yea, but it's a BMW. Regardless of logic or how much it's costing, the fact that you own a BMW just isn't on. You need to sell it for what it's worth and purchase a smaller car, like a ford fiesta for about 6K (5 years old), your comfort is not important. You just need to convince your neighbors that you are not very well off, and you can't do that driving a 10 year old BMW...

You forgot to include the hassle of changing his boards.ie username to fordfiestaguy.

Raging_Ninja

If you have kids, you're better off on social welfare than working for the minimum wage.

Dohnjoe

Quite a few people live on minimum wage

Without kids and room-sharing (no mortgage) it's very doable. Living outside the capital also helps.

tomwaterford

Cina wrote: »

Minimum wage is about €350 per week(ish) after tax.

I'd say that's more than enough to live comfortably in a smaller, more remote town in Ireland (if you're single without kids, can't really speak for families), but not really enough to live in Dublin without struggling a bit.

Like just about every other developed country, really.

Only issue is that from what I know,minimum wages in small towns are rarely (almost never) full time 40 hour weeks

draiochtanois

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DavyD_83

No, unfortunately my lifestyle has been built around my existing salary.
I doubt I could continue to pay my mortgage, let alone bills, insurances, food, childcare and general expenses of having kids

Stonedpilot

Alot of people on boards are unemployed sure look at how many have like 10,000 posts or something crazy (on this all day).
(frankly surprised people take them at face value with tales of running big companies, holidaying in Nice and owning 3 cars all the whilst having time to post night noon and day on boards.ie!).

So yes they can live on mimimum wage, most people without kids can just don't want to hinder their luxury so say they can't. I can and I have lived on minimum wage. Wasn't easy but always a way.

draiochtanois

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Stonedpilot

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Even so doesn't mean they are not stuffing ya, people on this lie lie and lie. No one with a real life frankly would have tens of thousands of posts on this.

Dohnjoe

Stonedpilot wrote: »

Even so doesn't mean they are not stuffing ya, people on this lie lie and lie. No one with a real life frankly would have tens of thousands of posts on this.

Plenty of people send dozens of texts per day

not much difference

Depends on how you want to live, two couple from an eastern European country come here and rent a two bed apartment and all work min wages jobs they divide the 1,800k monthly rent between them they do fine. A individual on their own it would be much harder.

Ray Palmer

The a friend's next door neighbour is 4 adults and 2 kids living together. They are Polish and all the adults work minimum wage. So that is their solution but surviving is one thing but I wouldn't want to be in that situation.
I earn more in a day than a weekly minimum wage so really can't fathom it at this point in my life.

irishman86

imme wrote: »

Could you afford to move to Ireland for a minimum wage job?

There are frequent reports of late about rising property prices, rising rental prices.

Could you afford to move to Ireland and get by just doing a minimum wage job.

It would sure be difficult, I imagine.

Yes, maybe its more difficult in Dublin but the rest of Ireland its manageable. I find Irish people to be horrible with money. One of the lads Im friends with had a 100 euro budget per week for drinking :pac: and wondered why he was always broke

andekwarhola

I know a couple that did move here (Dublin) and do it. Both work minimum wage jobs. I would hazard a guess that one wage is going on rent alone. Must be tough, but they seem to be able to do it.

r93kaey5p2izun

I live in Dublin on a budget of €260 per week. I don't earn minimum wage but it's perfectly doable for a single person. I pay rent, bills, health insurance, pet insurance and support 3 pets on that. However, I don't think I could live with the stress of having no security and little hope of improvement in the future if I was forced to live on minimum wage long term. I don't think it is doable with kids.

irishman86

tomwaterford wrote: »

Only issue is that from what I know,minimum wages in small towns are rarely (almost never) full time 40 hour weeks

x & o's is quiet a common thing in small towns though. Work three days sign on the rest ends up close to minimum wage

irishman86

Stonedpilot wrote: »

Even so doesn't mean they are not stuffing ya, people on this lie lie and lie. No one with a real life frankly would have tens of thousands of posts on this.

Over ten years you will have thousands of posts. I dont like to be the guy to point this out but at the rate you post you fit the bill for someone with no real life :D

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