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  • 16-07-2017 8:29pm
    #1
    Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭


    A PSC card for all.

    It seems Leo has a bit of a hard on for everyone to have a PSC card for things like applying for driving licences, collecting dole, passports etc.

    Personally I'm not a fan but I know i have no choice to get one when I go to renew my driving g licence. Maybe it's the taboo of carrying a 'dole card' but I would be a lot more comfortable if the government just came out (hehe Leo) and said it's now a national identity card and everyone must carry one at all times, to me that would make more sense and more appealing to get one.

    What are you thought folks ? Will we be getting f watched on channel 4 big brother ? !


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  • #2
    Samaris
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,544 ✭✭✭Samaris


    Presumably we'd be getting just as watched (or not watched, sure they can just contact Google for anything they want to know!) if the card was called a National Identity Card as if it's a PSC. What is a PSC though? Been a bit out of the loop the past couple of days.


  • #3
    Ken.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,898 ✭✭✭✭Ken.


    PSC= public service card.


  • #4
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Everyone has a PPS number, heck you that as a birthday present along with the slap on the arse it makes sense to me to have a central ID card to keep tabs on us as god knows plenty like to fly under the radar for tax purposes for example.


  • #5
    ytpe2r5bxkn0c1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Public Services Card, Identity Card, or any other name doesn't bother me. Might be easier to apply for things and open accounts etc. I see no harm and don't subscribe to the Big Brother paranoia.

    How do you go about getting one anyway?


  • #6
    buried
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,921 ✭✭✭buried


    Don't leave home without it you $hitheads

    Make America Get Out of Here



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  • #7
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,969 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    If we're to have a national identity card, let's have one. But this is a bureaucratic stealth operation... which makes me suspicious.
    If it was a good thing, wouldn't the government just come out and make the case for it? Shades of Irish Water there.
    Instead, it's being brought in by the back door.

    A driving licence or a passport is not a "Public Service" in the same way as claiming benefits. For one thing, YOU pay for it directly and immediately.
    Ergo, you shouldn't need a public service card to renew one.
    And to get a public service card... you need to bring your passport.
    To renew your passport... you need to get a... public service card.
    So I'm very dubious about this being a great leap forward in catching fraud.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #8
    Samaris
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,544 ✭✭✭Samaris


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    If we're to have a national identity card, let's have one. But this is a bureaucratic stealth operation... which makes me suspicious.
    If it was a good thing, wouldn't the government just come out and make the case for it? Shades of Irish Water there.
    Instead, it's being brought in by the back door.

    A driving licence or a passport is not a "Public Service" in the same way as claiming benefits. For one thing, YOU pay for it directly and immediately.
    Ergo, you shouldn't need a public service card to renew one.
    And to get a public service card... you need to bring your passport.
    To renew your passport... you need to get a... public service card.
    So I'm very dubious about this being a great leap forward in catching fraud.

    Yeah, it all goes vicious circle after a bit. But one that everyone is entitled to to allow for getting the others as and when is helpful. If you don't drive (like me and therefore don't have a driver's licence) and/or you rent (and may not have utility bills in your direct name), it can be bloody difficult to prove you exist. Passports again aren't universal - and that most of these things one has to apply for tends to require two of a batch, it can be difficult to fulfil them. As is, the only thing that everyone has is a birth cert - which obvs isn't a photo id.


  • #9
    Boom_Bap
    Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,734 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    Is this another card connected to a new database that is separate to all other database's that contain 'public' data?


  • #10
    4068ac1elhodqr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    One one hand it may be useful to prevent fraud.

    On the other it would probably contain RFID tags and other chips that can be used for 'beacon type location identification'.
    AFAIK current standard antenna will locate within around 100feet, who knows what a higher power antenna could do.

    Any card with a chip should be stored in a silver(foil) wallet anyway, to prevent undesired scanning.
    That includes tap 'n pay type transactions. Well, that is until you actually need to use it.


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