LUAS ticket inspectors

sellasheep

I noticed a man on the LUAS checking tickets this week wearing an ordinary t-shirt. I thought they had a trandev uniform?

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

There was a notice up ages ago telling people that inspectors would be in operation in plain clothes

Jamie2k9

Optional plane cloths checks were part of the pay agreement last year.

howiya

Have seen them a good few times. IMO they don't really blend in and catch people by surprise which is disappointing really because they might catch more people if they did

XPS_Zero

They should still have an ID with them that they can show OR is hanging on their neck.

In London they sit down like regular passengers pretend to read etc then suddenly get up out of nowhere, they should do that here.

Before anyone jumps down my throat, what I say next I say as an FT Card holder: They should be given much clearer powers over FT cards as well, so should CIE inspectors:

• Paper Cards should be declared invalid 30 days from now telling people they must get the proper chip card
• Using a companion pass without the person named on the pass being with you should earn you a full fine and confiscation of the person who is on the pass's pass*
• They need to have transit police or give security more powers to remove passengers at the direction of an inspector, because they keep avoiding the obvious knacks not buying tickets esp on Luas.
• They need to change their tactics a bit and use common sense, when they stand in stations instead of on the DART they stand in FRONT of the barriers which is a stupid way to do it. I got fined once cos my tag on on the way in didn't take so when they checked my LEAP it said I hadn't tagged on, but if they were standing behind the barriers or they weren't there, i'd have had to tag on and it would have charged me the full fare anyway. They could check them after waiting out of sight at the station door say
• They need to (some do some don't) give tourists a break

*When the inspectors take the passes they should send them back to DSP with a letter re the circumstances and DSP should send the person a normal DSP card with the blue box instead of FT.

A guy saw I was using one the other day and asked me if I had a companion pass, in other words so he could get a free ticket, he said he'd no money but had two shopping bags with him so I'm confused how he didn't leave enough left over to get a return ticket....
The staff should also be given proper training and educated on the reason for the scheme and why it works, who gets it etc some have a very poor understanding of the criteria for getting them reflected in their behavior and what they say to FT card holders.

Victor

XPS_Zero wrote: »

Before anyone jumps down my throat, what I say next I say as an FT Card holder: They should be given much clearer powers over FT cards as well, so should CIE inspectors:

[*]Paper Cards should be declared invalid 30 days from now telling people they must get the proper chip card

Can DSP issues cards that quickly?

[*]Using a companion pass without the person named on the pass being with you should earn you a full fine and confiscation of the person who is on the pass's pass*

My sister is fine on her own going to work. It would be another matter going cross-country.

[*]They need to (some do some don't) give tourists a break

Quite a few 'tourists' are out for a literal free ride.

Jamie2k9

Can DSP issues cards that quickly?

Expected to reach 3 million by end of 2017, they should give priority for outstanding passes.

What's more annoying about them checking passes all they do is look and don't use the reader like the Leap card, you can in theory travel free on the Luas if the card is out o date.

Doltanian

Victor wrote: »

Quite a few 'tourists' are out for a literal free ride.

They are getting ridden every where else with the price of things, our public transport is such a shambolic disgrace that from a tourists point of view its a laugh to ask them to pay for it, and then when you see what it actually costs.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

Doltanian wrote: »

They are getting ridden every where else with the price of things, our public transport is such a shambolic disgrace that from a tourists point of view its a laugh to ask them to pay for it, and then when you see what it actually costs.

Like us all, were all being rode with the cost of things. If you feel the Luas is a rip off don't use it

whisky_galore

XPS_Zero wrote: »

• They need to (some do some don't) give tourists a break

Really?

If you were in another country, about to get on public transport there, do you think to yourself 'it'll be grand, shur I can just use this for free' or do you inform yourself on what ticket to get beforehand and not be a freeloader and risk getting fined?

XPS_Zero

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

Expected to reach 3 million by end of 2017, they should give priority for outstanding passes.

What's more annoying about them checking passes all they do is look and don't use the reader like the Leap card, you can in theory travel free on the Luas if the card is out o date.

You need to use the reader to ensure the card is valid. My card shows an expiry on the front of 2022, but my medical situation stopped being a disability a few months ago, you are left with it for the transition period to smooth you in, but once I'm off Disability Allowance and back to FT (as opposed to Part Time) work I loose my entitlement to that card, regardless of what the date on the front says. So DSP may have killed my card, as an example, remotely by computer, but because the inspector hasn't checked if it's been tagged he has no way to know.
That's one of the reasons were meant to tag, it's not just to collect user data (though I fear how that data is going to be abused by people who misunderstand how FT works if it's published) it's to prove the card is still valid at the start of every journey.

They can just call a number on the back of it and check directly but just reading the machine is the fast way.


Yes they can issue them that quickly they take seconds to print once you have all your stuff with you. They were sure quick to stop my payments and demand I get a passport I didn't have the money to get when they were forcing me to get a PS card in the first place, if they can act that quick in that situation they ought to be able to act quick in all.

whisky_galore wrote: »

Really?

If you were in another country, about to get on public transport there, do you think to yourself 'it'll be grand, shur I can just use this for free' or do you inform yourself on what ticket to get beforehand and not be a freeloader and risk getting fined?

I'm not talking about free riding with no ticket, I'm talking about technicalities where they use a Leap Visitor one station outside the Dublin SHZ, those kind of situations.

In case you havn't noticed, information for tourists is very poorly communicated in this country. YOu can't get a Leap Visitor in the DB machines at Dublin airport, or at DART stations, or DART OR Luas vending machines, it and standard LEAP are the most cost effective way to do a tourism visit here yet I constantly see tourists who know no better buying one way tickets and standard returns,

I saw plain clothes Luas Inspectors again today I'm really glad to see it.
I think those yellow jackets look ridiculous on everyone, I'm glad most cops have discarded them as well for the navy uniform jacket it looks far more professional.

Del2005

XPS_Zero wrote: »

I'm not talking about free riding with no ticket, I'm talking about technicalities where they use a Leap Visitor one station outside the Dublin SHZ, those kind of situations.

In case you havn't noticed, information for tourists is very poorly communicated in this country. YOu can't get a Leap Visitor in the DB machines at Dublin airport, or at DART stations, or DART OR Luas vending machines, it and standard LEAP are the most cost effective way to do a tourism visit here yet I constantly see tourists who know no better buying one way tickets and standard returns,

I saw plain clothes Luas Inspectors again today I'm really glad to see it.
I think those yellow jackets look ridiculous on everyone, I'm glad most cops have discarded them as well for the navy uniform jacket it looks far more professional.

I used to regularly use the public transport in Holland without a clue how to pay, because I didn't do any research before going. If I got caught by a ticket inspector the fines would have been my fault not the Dutch transport company for not spoon feeding me the information. If someone can travel internationally then using public transport correctly is their sole responsibility