Lambs for Factory

Agri123

was in Kildare chilling like I said i haven't a clue what to do or where to go from here and I've a feeling that if I send any more lambs there something similar may happen as they're getting away with it

Willfarman

Greysides might be able to advise this man! Huuu hummmmm

tomwaterford

Agri123 wrote: »

was in Kildare chilling like I said i haven't a clue what to do or where to go from here and I've a feeling that if I send any more lambs there something similar may happen as they're getting away with it

I have sent lambs before to Kildare chilling,but never had such an issue your having if I'm honest

But I did find you'd always have a lamb would kill a good bit under the rest,despite being relatively matched,...all would kill out at the 21-22kg weight....but there's always one despite being roughly same would be like 16kg or something

I just assumed they got hurt etc,on way to factory and had a bit condemned (do they need to provide vet note for partial condemned??)

Willfarman

tomwaterford wrote: »

I have sent lambs before to Kildare chilling,but never had such an issue your having if I'm honest

But I did find you'd always have a lamb would kill a good bit under the rest,despite being relatively matched,...all would kill out at the 21-22kg weight....but there's always one despite being roughly same would be like 16kg or something

I just assumed they got hurt etc,on way to factory and had a bit condemned (do they need to provide vet note for partial condemned??)

Yes they do.

ganmo

The only time I remember getting a leg condemned we kinda knew it was gonna happen. Never got a cert mainly because we ate her but was told it kinda looked like arthritis

tomwaterford

Willfarman wrote: »

Yes they do.

Something il keep an eye for next time at Kildare chilling

farawaygrass

If you are a member of the IFA then contact your local office. They should be a good help

Willfarman

farawaygrass wrote: »

If you are a member of the IFA then contact your local office. They should be a good help

You can ring the samaritans for free!

Agri123

I'm just wondering in terms of making a complaint about a factory who can farmers turn to. Does the Ombudsman deal with this or is there another organisation. Ie. not a big complaint about conduct but when you dont get paid for a lamb and the factory wont give a cert, speak on the phone etc..

rangler1

Agri123 wrote: »

I'm just wondering in terms of making a complaint about a factory who can farmers turn to. Does the Ombudsman deal with this or is there another organisation. Ie. not a big complaint about conduct but when you dont get paid for a lamb and the factory wont give a cert, speak on the phone etc..

Despite Wills sad comment, IFA do deal with problems in factories, I've been involved in sorting a few myself and I tell you very few farmers even bother to lift a phone after in thanks so all the sh.. isn't on IFAs side.
TBF what we'd be dealing with would be more serious than a missing lamb but you should get a vets report.

ganmo

small claims might be the way to go

kk.man

farawaygrass wrote: »

If you are a member of the IFA then contact your local office. They should be a good help

I got no soot from the IF A last spring over 'dirty' hoggetts. I even rang a member of the committee. Thus my relationship with them is terminated.

rangler1

kk.man wrote: »

I got no soot from the IF A last spring over 'dirty' hoggetts. I even rang a member of the committee. Thus my relationship with them is terminated.

Where were you for the last fortnight or even six mths, my lambs were held back for being dirty last week, apparently if they're dirty they can't be killed, I thought that Greysides explained it fairly well.
Mine got dirty after leaving the yard so I'll leave it at that, I even cancelled my order for three of them to be cut up for freezer, so I wouldn't even take them myself.
I can't see what you expected anyone to do, if they're dirty, they're dirty and the implications are going to get worse with the new rules, apparently New zealand lamb has a longer shelf life because it's slaughtered cleaner so our's have to be the same.
You would've had the clean lamb rules last spring but for IFA slowing it up so you probably got off lighter than you will next spring

farawaygrass

How can you avoid some lambs going dirty though? Especially the last while with the weather and soft grass. Would crutching them do, and if so at what age?

kk.man

rangler1 wrote: »

Where were you for the last fortnight or even six mths, my lambs were held back for being dirty last week, apparently if they're dirty they can't be killed, I thought that Greysides explained it fairly well.
Mine got dirty after leaving the yard so I'll leave it at that, I even cancelled my order for three of them to be cut up for freezer, so I wouldn't even take them myself.
I can't see what you expected anyone to do, if they're dirty, they're dirty and the implications are going to get worse with the new rules, apparently New zealand lamb has a longer shelf life because it's slaughtered cleaner so our's have to be the same.
You would've had the clean lamb rules last spring but for IFA slowing it up so you probably got off lighter than you will next spring

I had the agent and the hauliier load them with me...what more proof does anyone need that it wasn't me who got them 'dirty'.

Anyway I'm just not going to mention it again...im just playing tennis in the smallest court in the world...my head!

rangler1

farawaygrass wrote: »

How can you avoid some lambs going dirty though? Especially the last while with the weather and soft grass. Would crutching them do, and if so at what age?

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I crutched about 100 yesterday and I'd say I'll have to do the same again on monday in another bunch. I've never seen sheep as dirty, even the breeding ewes that were shorn in july are dirty.
I'm fortunate to have a shears from my contract shearing days. I tried a few factory lambs with the dagging shears before this bad weather came and I was glad to resurrect the electric shears.
I'd say the best ttme to do them is in the last few weeks before they are slaughtered,